Unvote; Vote: Splitpersonality
I agree, I've been silent this entire game and no one has called me out on it, it's time for me to face up to the music, and spill the beans.
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Unvote; Vote: Splitpersonality
I agree, I've been silent this entire game and no one has called me out on it, it's time for me to face up to the music, and spill the beans.
Or, or... you could use your vote productively and just contribute more. :embarassed:
I'm following, I figured RR was a good vote, that's all.
Okay, that's something we can at least discuss. I think Reenk is taking a stick and smashing the wasp nest a bit too much to be mafia. Even though it is netting him votes it is not affecting his strategy. Trying to lead people towards a lynch is also an interesting move if he were mafia, because if Beskar turns up innocent then it just makes him look bad.
I wouldn't put it past Reenk to do pretty much anything, but I'm sure his teammates would be a little peeved if he got himself lynched right away due to poking a bunch of townies in the eye and pretty much saying "lynch me". I would note that Reenk is just doing what we're SUPPOSED to be doing, which is discussing and accusing, and that beats the hell out of lurking.
And that concludes my defense of Reenk Roink, because he's still accusing me and Beskar and that makes me shed fewer tears if he gets lynched. :laugh4:
Having observed a fair number of mafia games, I have concluded that it is the single most reliable method of spotting mafioso. This is based on observations of people who are good at this kind of thing, since I will freely admit that my track record on catching mafioso is pretty poor. Your disdain for attacks based on behavioral changes is irrelevant to me. As far as I am concerned, it's a well-established method of catching scum and has proven itself many times. Argue against it all you want, but feel free to target it at others, for you will not find me receptive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
It is late and I am tired. I will address the other parts of your post if they seem to still be relevant in the morning.
OK, you seem uninterested in even discussing the epistemic virtues of the behavioral change method. :juggle2: Whatever then, that avenue of discussion is closed. :shame:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
You seem to be basing your reliance on it on some kind of pragmatic justification. I think however, your impression of it's success is inaccurate, as in my judgment of it, behavior changes have got a ton of false positives while letting major figures slip through the cracks. Essentially, with my experiences, I don't believe they have performed better recently than random voting. I'll grant you, early on in Mafia here, it was a big thing, with some success (still vastly overhyped). However, the entire situation has changed.
Also would you not agree that a common mindset for a player who is Mafia would be to keep his behavior the same? While I'm not a fan of the method, I do realize that it does have many fans, and I do see a motivation for Mafia to purposely keep their behavior as static as possible, whereas the motivation would be much less for a townie I feel.
(a side note, I would love to see statistics on this kind of thing, although such may be impossible because pinning down behavior change into some quantitative form is hard - Seamus's post trackers did a partial job tracking ACTIVITY changes... which is what Kommodus also did)
Lastly, if you feel this way, you should go and vote for me, shouldn't you? :smash::smash::smash:
Tally:
Beskar: 2 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen)
Reenk Roink 2: (Beskar, Tratorix)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty: 2 (Askthepizzaguy, spL1tp3r50naL1ty)
Askthepizzaguy: 2 (White_eyes:D, gibsonsg91921)
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Well, yeah, I'm not sure many people would gamble on us not voting for them because they're stirring things up, that'd be a pretty large risk for little reward.Quote:
I think Reenk is taking a stick and smashing the wasp nest a bit too much to be mafia
So what, do I vote for you ATPG? What's your argument against beskar if you have one?
I'll remind you that Reenk has claimed detective, ratted out his own mafia partners, and faked his way to a victory. I don't think there is anything that Reenk would consider to be "going too far" as a mafioso, so long as he believes it will work. And hypothetically, if Reenk is mafia: he is the one making up the plans, and his teammates are just rolling with it, unless they're someone like TinCow or Sigurd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Reenk has also changed up playstyle considerably from previous games; he's now more impossible to read than he was before.
I think that, before this game ends, Reenk, ATPG, and Beskar all need to die.
Right now, I'm going to vote for someone low-profile, though. None of these three deserve a lynch before we have more info.
Vote: Splitpersonality
Because his self-vote is exactly the sort of thing he would do to make him a more unsavoury lynch target.
Can't you guys tell reenks alignment?
Its clear as day to me every game. :shrug:
@ SP
You could always vote for Khazaar and maybe that will get him talking. Or vote for whoever. Personally I just want to encourage participation because I can't decide who to vote for when people aren't voting or discussing.
If I wanted to make myself an unsavory lynch target I'd claim a pro-town role, and as I say every game in which I am as unimportant as I am now, I would like you to not waste a lynch on me
Vote: Khazaar if I can discuss things you can get in here and too.
unvote, vote: Khazaar
until he starts participating.
Beskar: 2 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen)
Reenk Roink 2: (Beskar, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy: 2 (White_eyes:D, gibsonsg91921)
Khazaar: 2 (spL1tp3r50naL1ty, Askthepizzaguy)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty: 1 (Chaotix)
Been messing around with my wireless internet trying to get it to work and stay connected. Finally seems to be working right not. I'll Vote:abstain for now until I can read the thread.
Vote : Tin Cow
Beskar: 2 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen)
Reenk Roink 2: (Beskar, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy: 2 (White_eyes:D, gibsonsg91921)
Khazaar: 2 (spL1tp3r50naL1ty, Askthepizzaguy)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty: 1 (Chaotix)
Tin Cow: 1 (DJGingivitis)
My reasoning is very simple. You have only gone after people who have started voted for people who look suspicious. However I feel that if you attempt to make a case on these people who are voting off of other people's actions that you are trying to delay someone dying perhaps yourself. Something about you stirring everything up seems odd. In the 2nd round you randomly switched to YLC. I had my suspicions about YLC up until now. His power to cast his vote for someone else's thoughts scared me. It is modern politics. But now I discovered you, a greater evil. And for this reason I shall vote for you. And YLC, my apologies but I ask you know, kind merchant, lend me your vote, vote for Tin Cow. Get rid of this murderous man.
I demand more unwarranted attention.
Vote: Split
Wow, what a split vote!
Beskar: 2 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen)
Reenk Roink 2: (Beskar, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy: 2 (White_eyes:D, gibsonsg91921)
Khazaar: 2 (spL1tp3r50naL1ty, Askthepizzaguy)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty: 2 (Chaotix, AVSM)
Tin Cow: 1 (DJGingivitis)
I am deeply sorry, for the Reenk and the Roink is correct, and I owe him a double deal, and it is up to him how the vote falls. However, if you want, you may preorder, and when we obtain a new shipment, we will send it right to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by DJGingivtis
Vote: Beskar
I would also like to note that I am an honest merchant, and I do not take kindly to those who deal in shadows - such as Beskar himself, you tried to buy my vote through a PM, and to vote for my current customer no less.
:laugh4: This is fun. After the game, you owe me a beer or something Beskar.
unvote, vote: Splitpersonality
I now beg and plead for Beskar's survival, because it's totally not scummy for me to do that.
How dare you sir! You would make a mockery of my product because one man can sell you a poor tasting beer? I will sell you wine instead!Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Remind me why I argued for your innocence again? Pain in the... :laugh4:
I feel that Beskar is not the right choice this round. There will be ample time to lynch him later should we go for that option.
vote: Split
Tally
spL1tp3r50naL1ty : 4 (Chaotix, AVSM, ATPG, Sigurd)
Beskar : 3 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen, YLC)
Reenk Roink : 2 (Beskar, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy : 2 (White_eyes:D, gibsonsg91921)
Khazaar : 1 (spL1tp3r50naL1ty)
Tin Cow : 1 (DJGingivitis)
Unvote:ATPG Vote:Beskar Get rid of the guy who is "Always going to be lynch bait":shame: (Nothing personal Beskar but your too big a threat to town)...."If we always look back, we well never move forward" Lynch Beskar and get it over with...:bow:
I will give anyone a cookie who spares Beskar.
Vote: Split
I'd just like to say that Beskar's current playstyle correlates to his usual play.
Either, he is simply a normal townie person, or he's working very, very, hard to maintain his style of play.
I've learned from my mistakes in the past by dogmatically hounding Beskar for the type of behavior he currently displays, I don't think he's the mafia, at this point of time of course.
Tally:
spL1tp3r50naL1ty : 5 (Chaotix, AVSM, ATPG, Sigurd, DiY)
Beskar : 4 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen, YLC, WE:D)
Reenk Roink : 2 (Beskar, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy : 1 (gibsonsg91921)
Khazaar : 1 (spL1tp3r50naL1ty)
Tin Cow : 1 (DJGingivitis)
Abstains : 1 (Ichigo)
not voting : 5 (Caius, Jolt, Khazaar, LW, TinCow)
*names in red - WoK bait
Split, you really need to unvote Khazaar and put it on Beskar.
Certainly, but we're not talking about situations in which people are acting normally, are we? We're talking about situations in which people are acting abnormally. There are two basic methods of acting abnormally: intentionally and unintentionally. Unintentional abnormal action is very often due to a person's innately different reaction to a game that comes when they have more information than the rest. That extra information changes their behavior even if they do not intend it to. Intentional abnormal action indicates a plan of some kind and a strategy that is being pursued with a purpose. While that purpose could certainly be of a metagaming nature, it could also be for an in-game reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Either way, both of the above methods indicate that something is going on with that player that deserves further probing. Does it mean mafioso? No. Does it mean I think I should put some pressure on them? Yes.
I have not voted for you because I am not yet convinced you are the best lynch this round. I prefer not to move my vote around regularly, and I am very comfortable holding it until late in a phase.Quote:
Lastly, if you feel this way, you should go and vote for me, shouldn't you? :smash::smash::smash:
I would abstain, since I don't seem to be making much sense of all the arguments around here. But since I like to matter, and since beefy is already dead (Voting against me carries extremely significant consequences as you noticed), I shall revert to voting for ATPG, since I still think random.org sucks.
Vote: ATPG
*POKE*
You might as well vote abstain for all the good that will do. Come on now, step up and decide. Frankly I don't even care if you pick the person I've been trying to defend, just pick one.
Umm, kinda missed the bus on this one but I´m catching up. ATPG offered me a cookie if I vote for Split so I´ll do that...
Vote: Splitpersonality
so whats the case on split anyways :inquisitive:
seems like a bandwagon to me :shrug:
This is some serious bandwagon that apparently I am missing. While split has just been lurking does not mean he is mafia. We already voted out FH mistakenly because he had not said anything, so why do it again this early in the game. Wait till later in the game to do it.
I think it is because that we feel that Beskar's current style is not unusual, and whilst it may be to one who doesn't really play with him, its just, his way of handling things.Quote:
This is some serious bandwagon that apparently I am missing. While split has just been lurking does not mean he is mafia. We already voted out FH mistakenly because he had not said anything, so why do it again this early in the game. Wait till later in the game to do it.
The merits behind getting rid of lurkers is a fine balance between removing someone who is currently not contributing actively and is unlikely to do so in the foreseeable future, thus becoming a vote that the town loses, as well as doing it too dogmatically such that the mafia is able to blend it and hide within it.Quote:
Wait till later in the game to do it.
But generally, its not the end game that one should be focusing on the lurkers, by then, we *hopefully* should have narrowed down the pointer at suspicious characters through discussion, and with some luck, eliminate the mafia.
This is generally why discussion is very important in a game, particularly games such as these where town mainly relies on analysis and etc, and lurking is simply just going to help the mafia.
There have been many games where the mafia have had walkovers simply because the town did not actively discuss enough.]
Edit: On the other side of the coin, being too overzealous about it is why people also tend to avoid either trying to focus on one person.
Just an example to cite.Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
A-yup. It is most curious and warrants examination. The split votes started as an effort to get him talking, and then snowballed into a convenient target to spare Beskar. As the former purpose has been served, those who are voting for him who are not using the 'Save Beskar!' excuse are extremely suspect. This currently includes Chaotix and AVSM. Khazaar is also in the category, but appears to be voting for split out of sheer laziness.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
You fail to see that me and Chaotix never put him ahead. I did it for the chil- tie! And some wordplay. It was good fun.
Unvote, Vote: Khazaar
spL1tp3r50naL1ty : 5 (Chaotix, ATPG, Sigurd, DiY, Khazaar)
Beskar : 5 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen, YLC, WE:D, Tincow)
Khazaar : 2 (spL1tp3r50naL1ty, AVSM)
Reenk Roink : 2 (Beskar, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy : 2 (gibsonsg91921, Jolt)
Tin Cow : 1 (DJGingivitis)
Abstains : 1 (Ichigo)
not voting : 2 (Caius, LW)
Because joining a bandwagon on someone who voted for you isn't silly at all.
This round will end at exactly 5:30 AM CST, or 10:30 GMT, regardless of whether I am on and the writeup is posted.
EDIT: Khazaar vote for splitpersonality.
Hrmph. If a choice must be made between split and Beskar, and apparently it must, Beskar is the better option. A weak case is better than no case.
Vote: Beskar
spL1tp3r50naL1ty : 5 (Chaotix, ATPG, Sigurd, DiY, Khazaar)
Beskar : 5 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen, YLC, WE:D, TinCow)
Khazaar : 2 (spL1tp3r50naL1ty, AVSM)
Reenk Roink : 2 (Beskar, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy : 2 (gibsonsg91921, Jolt)
Tin Cow : 1 (DJGingivitis)
Abstains : 1 (Ichigo)
not voting : 2 (Caius, LW)
Remember TinCow, when there was a stupid bandwagon on you, who stood by your side, in attempts to save you, because as an accused Townie themselves, they believed you were not the Mafia, and actually stood up against the almightly bandwagon and go "No, look, you lot, are wrong, this Metal Beefy chum of mine is not a Mafia!". When everyone was after you, you was like a beacon of light standing there going "You shalt not pass!"...
You should have learnt that Beskar is a friend for life.
https://img193.imageshack.us/img193/...ynchbeskar.jpg
I am currently voting for you because after a rather decent day's worth of discussion, you remain the best case that has been presented. I am curious about several other people, but not sufficiently so to vote for them. The case against you is minimal at best, but it is there at a basic level. If you have a stronger case against someone else, please present it. What you need to do at this point is not defend yourself, but give us some viable reason to lynch someone who isn't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I gave more about Reenk Roink to be lynched than any case so far. The case against me is "Beskar is lynch bait, kill him". Hell, even you had a case about Reenk Roink, then decided not to carry on through with it. So you doing this, is some what suspect. Even Sigurd thinks the case against me is not the right one, so does Pizza, so is Death is Yonder.
If you notice, there is a bunch of people which think I am not guilty, is it normal in Mafia for people to actually defend other people? Are all those people Mafia? No, this is what they are. They are all Beskar's. Join today and get a free virtual t-shirt proclaiming your Beskar-ness, in a variety of colours and designs.
So finally some things new emerge from the woodwork.
I'm suspicious of anyone who voted for splitpersonality. What was the reason? All I can think of is that he voted without giving a reason and he was third on the bandwagon on me. The first while indeed not really being any paragon of innocence cannot be so damning as to lynch when there are more well developed reasons for voting another and the latter is a cliche which has little worth.
The reason why I am suspicious of people voting split is because I think this would be plausible Mafia reasoning: Atpg, Beskar, and Reenk are likely to go anyway so let's keep them around when we need patsies more and try to get rid of another like FactionHeir or Beefy.
To be honest, I'd rather you lynch me than splitpersonality. The same applies to Khaazar by the way.
Now then, these are the people that should be focused on imo:
Beskar, Atpg, Reenk (you know...)
Tratorix (explained before too)
Sigurd:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
This post fits in to what I was thinking. Keeping us suspicious folk around as long as possible for a rainy day, taking a convenient lynch on split... :inquisitive:
Death is Yonder (votes split and then talks about something unrelated)
TinCow:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
I agree with points of this case, and would have considered TinCow to be trying to keep us patsies around as long as possible until he voted Beskar... Turning a new leaf, faking us out, or legitimate?
Chaotix and Khaazar (the former tried to justify his vote because split voted himself. Kinda lacking, I agree but maybe it's genuine and it doesn't have the malevolent feel like say Sigurd's vote. Khaazar voted split cause Atpg would give him a cookie. I don't know if he'd get it, though it would be cool if he did, and his vote would be very understandable :laugh4:)
Not everyone has the pevereenk connection. :shakehands: :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
P.S: Thank you very much YLC. :bow:
No you didn't and no it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Yes I did and yes it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Yay I'm getting lynched!
Now I can focus on my game.
In all seriousness it's a waste of a lynch, but I suppose lynching someone innocent in place of no lynch is always good!
Your case against me is that I panicked when you called me out so I went on to retaliate vote against you and built a "post hoc" case against you in an attempt to justify it. Is this correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
If so, I have already responded to this long ago (to which you put an animation of Michael Jackson anachronistically in his Smooth Criminal suit dancing to Beat It saying "Lynch Reenk").
I pointed out that I was in no danger to be lynched when you called me out, nor have I been in any real danger to be lynched at all. I also pointed out that your entire accusation of my case being "post hoc" is simply unconvincing because of course I noticed a connection between you and Atpg after you "called me out" because you clearly stated your belief in Atpg's innocence.
Furthermore your very own case against me retaliation voting against you is "post hoc" itself, so if you are trying to imply that a post hoc case has some defect (which is what I believe you are trying to imply) than by your own standard your case against me is weak.
No, I called you out, you voted me. It's the start of this tale.
Unvote; Vote:Beskar maybe I CAN save myself for a round...
I have to agree with tincow, there is no argument against me besides the fact that I am sadly not beskar, this is a **** argument tbqh
Tally:
Beskar : 6 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen, YLC, WE:D, TinCow, Splitpersonality)
spL1tp3r50naL1ty : 5 (Chaotix, ATPG, Sigurd, DiY, Khazaar)
Khazaar : 1 (AVSM)
Reenk Roink : 2 (Beskar, Tratorix)
Askthepizzaguy : 2 (gibsonsg91921, Jolt)
Tin Cow : 1 (DJGingivitis)
Abstains : 1 (Ichigo)
not voting : 2 (Caius, LW)
This is not remotely true. There are a few solid pieces of evidence against you. First, Reenk pointed out a posting/voting pattern that indicated a possible connection between you and ATPG. This was before ATPG just decided to be open about it and lead the Save Ferris! campaign. Second, GH's murder indicates an attempt to get rid of someone voting for you or to frame you. While this is a WIFOM situation, combined with the first point, it is at least something to go on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
It is not a strong case. I've said that many times. But I have yet to see a stronger one be presented. Thus, I encourage you to present a stronger case if you want to sway my vote. I assure you, I am not a bandwagoner and will give due consideration to your words.
Reenk is notoriously difficult to read. I am wary of him and will certainly spar with him plenty more in the future, but I am not comfortable making a judgment call on him yet.Quote:
Hell, even you had a case about Reenk Roink, then decided not to carry on through with it.
One final note, I would like to bring some attention back to this bit that I posted earlier and which has so far been ignored:
Since that post, Sigurd has proclaimed that Beskar isn't the right choice for a lynch this round without further explanation. I would very much like to hear more from him on this subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCowQuote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd
Interesting disparity here. Sigurd, why do you think they've been chatting?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Unvote; Vote: Splitpersonality
For doing that.
Assertions without reasons should be dismissed without reason. Despite that I have actually taken the time to respond to your case. I'm pretty sure that's why despite the inherently limited nature of my own case, it has manifold amounts of persuasive appeal as compared to yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
@ TinCow: What do you think about what I think about Sigurd? That he is simply trying to make a list of patsies for later? It would explain that comment on Atpg and Beskar and also explain why he did not actually bother to ever lynch Beskar when there was another alternative?
Yeah, because obviously, me, Tratorix, ATPG, Sigurd, Death is Yonder and anyone else who doesn't follow your bandwagon are Mafia. Even though there are only two Mafia.
If anything, I bet the Mafia is in your bandwagon and on top of that, it could even be you.
Sigurd certainly warrants further scrutiny. Review of his posts shows him giving a surprising amount of credibility to the 'third on the bandwagon' joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Btw APTG, what happened to your Midas uber-network of finding mafia? Last I heard was your Great Wall of Text in Godfather 3.
Scummy, scummy, scummy... :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by White eyes
Anyone voting to lynch Beskar by the excuse of "He's lynch bait" and "a danger to the town" should be very closely looked at. This isn't the first round, you should be able to come up with better reasoning for your vote than that.
Unvote, Vote: Splitpersonality. Way too quick to pull the trigger on a self vote and I still think Beskar is innocent.
When does the round end?
12 hours.
Thanks.
'Tis hardly a joke, as much as we laugh when throwing it around, time after time it has proven itself to be correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Its just the right amount of votes for the mafia to vote without being noticed, but not far enough back to be a bandwagoner.
Its caught me out before, I did it, lynched the next day and I was mafia.
edit: Without realising I did it.
Since no one else is voting for Khazaar, I will vote for Split, because I'm bananas, and bananas don't take orders for Transition Metals, or hooved mammals.
They don't have ears either.
Unvote, Vote: Split
Want to buy a bridge?Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
I have been looking for a solid investment.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
spL1tp3r50naL1ty : 8 (Chaotix, ATPG, Sigurd, DiY, Khazaar, Beskar, Tratorix, AVSM)
Beskar : 6 (Reenk Roink, pevergreen, YLC, WE:D, TinCow, Splitpersonality)
Askthepizzaguy : 2 (gibsonsg91921, Jolt)
Tin Cow : 1 (DJGingivitis)
Abstains : 1 (Ichigo)
not voting : 2 (Caius, LW)
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So far as I am aware, this is the tally. Ok after a few hours of sleep, I'm here... again.
To answer your question, Jolt, the system has been completely designed and programmed by Kommodus and myself, and it's installed on my system right now, I just haven't gotten around to testing it yet.
Kommo had his program, and now you've combined?
Im so confused. Who/where is Kommo. :cry:
Kommodus and I sat down and redesigned both of our systems and combined them into one program. As for where he is... I could have sworn he was going to join Capo III... I'd better send him an email reminder. Now, if I could only find my cookies folder on my danged machine I could actually plug MIDAS in and give it a test drive. Sad innit?
GH said welcome back Kommo in the thread, but I can't see him.
Sorry ATPG, the new system just won't command respect from me. Not like the old one.
What was the name of it again? Holmes? Anyone else remember the game where it was the central plot element? I loved the ending of that game. :yes:
I think it's time for a
SURPRISE VOTE-CHANGE!
Unvote: Split, Vote: Beskar.
Because I like ties very much. Also, although it may not matter too much this round, AVSM is being way too nonsensical. Or perhaps not nonsensical enough. Hmm, I can't decide, I'm still recovering from a terrible bout of randomness. Either way, he should be kept an eye on. Or maybe even an ear.
Possible candidate for "excerpt of the year" award? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Anyway, I saw Kommodus reading the Capo sign-up thread in invisible mode and pre-emptively welcomed him back. I'm sure he'll grace us with his presence sooner or later. :yes:
Anyway, I again stress the importance of lynching Beskar now while our attention is focused on him. The natural flow of mafia games will give us different suspects in the next rounds, and there have been more instances of the town putting pressure on a mafioso early-game and then letting him slip by than I can remember.
-edit- Mafia VI, pever.
No matter how many times you say to lynch me, you won't get your justice, because I didn't kill you. Accept it. All I can say is, there are many people saying I am innocent and defending me.
Why would they do that, if I was "Mafia scum" ? Put on your thinking hats people, seriously. Unless you are trying to say there are 7 Mafia in a 2 Mafia game.
Two mafia, five mistaken people. Or one mafia with six mistaken people and the second mafioso simply hanging back.
Your argument is essentially that anytime anyone has more defenders than there are mafiosi in the game, they are innocent. Which, of course, is incorrect.
Contrary to popular belief, just because somebody says you are innocent does not make it so. Obviously we cannot know for sure whether or not you are mafia or town, but as of now, you are the biggest suspect. Generally the biggest suspect tends to get lynched in mafia games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Beskar can't be guilty because he's my... err.... sweetie pie. :shame:
It could be that the people defending you are just misled, maybe this misleading was sparked by the other mafia member whose argument defended you?
Just because people are defending you doesn't mean you're innocent.
Look at me, no one is defending me but i'm clear as day innocent.
EDIT:
Oh okay ATPG, in that case we should lay off. Because that's adorable.
I would love to feel complimented, that I am some actual Mafia Guru Game Lord, where that possibly exists, however, the truth is far more simple and "oh... just another townie".
Or it could be, they know something you don't know, therefore it might be an idea to listen to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Quit denying it Beskar, you know you loves me.
You can't run from your feelings, not on the internet at least.
If you want our perfectly natural love to blossom, you'll vote for yourself, Split. I believe you're the only sane one left who still recognizes the power of love. I'll give you a cookie if you commit suicide so that Beskar and I can make beautiful babies together.
Now you see if I didn't believe in the true power of love, I'd say that sounds like a mafia partnership dealy,
but that was such a ballsy gamble on your part I may just give it to you...
I pinky swear that I am not mafia.
*skips off into the sunset hand in hand with the awesome manliness that is Beskar*
:sick:
:help:
If you vote for yourself Beskar, ATPG can't bother you.
Unless he is into that sort of thing...
If you're implying what I think you're implying, then you've just given the mafia a laundry list of names to go after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar