You are in the wrong game.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
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You are in the wrong game.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
vote:dcmort. Of the other candidates today, Nightbringer would be my second choice, just on gut instinct. The most important part, to my mind, is that whoever we lynch let us know (assuming they're allowed to), what being a ghost does. Csargo, can you hear us (or Abstain, but I think he's even less likely to answer).
Unvote: Vote Autolycus
No, I agree with Auto here.
unvote
vote: Ituralde
I'm just a vengeful ghost, doing vengeful ghost things. I can't say anything else really. Enjoy the confusion I guess...Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
I plan to have my vengeance though, just so you all know. It shall be mine!
I'm not at liberty to say. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ituralde
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
Sorry for my low activity. I've been working like a dog and everyone knows dogs are terrible at mafia.
No poker face...
Vote: GH
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
https://i.imgur.com/jKngbS5.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
Why think of me then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden1Knight
Also if Csargo wants revenge and he was killed by the town. Uh oh, I foresee ghost related accidents.
I am ACIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
Oh man... you basically forced me to do this... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
Unvote. Vote:ACIN
Unvote; Vote: ACIN
Apathy is death.
Following another death, the day was a subdued one as in the initial fervor of the inquisition faded and the realization that that people were actually dying set in. Not all, however, had quite adopted that philosophy. One man in particular made an off-hand comment which only a few heard. "This is an outrage!" One nearby said.
"How dare he? So insensitive!" Another proclaimed.
"Why, I'm completely offended!" The last said.
"Yes, he is clearly the villain, to offend us so! Off with his head!" The mob proclaimed. The man was presented to Kavehir, bound and on his knees. Kavehir looked down upon the man with a bemused expression.
"So, this is the one? You're sure?"
"Yes, yes! He is far too offensive to not be guilty!"
The Emperor looked down upon the man, who glared balefully back at him. "So what is your name, again?" Kavehir asked.
"I am completely inoffensive, my lord. I don't know what these fools-" He was cut off when Kavehir brought his sword upon his skull and split in two.
"I asked your name. Not a defense. Tsk, tsk...."
Tally:
ACIN 3 (Sooh, Myddraal, Monty)
Ituralde 2 (GoldenKnight, Pizza)
Myrddraal 1 (Landlubber)
Dcmort 2 (Ituralde, Autolycus)
Visorslash 1 (Nightbringer)
El Barto 1 (Visorslash)
Autolycus 1 (Kage)
GoldenKnight 1 (GH)
GH 1 (Zack)
Alive:
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
DCmort
Edse
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
Golden1Knight
Ituralde
Johnhughtom
Kagemusha
Landlubber
Montmorency
Myddraal
Nightbringer
Sooh
Visorslash
Zack
Lynched:
Abstain (D1)
Andres (D2)ACIN (D3
Killed:
Csargo (D1)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N3)
Attacked:
Ironside (N1)
Golden1Knight (N2)
Montmorency (N3)
You may begin sending night orders.
I am dead.
Come and join the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
But does he get to join your exclusive ghost sub-club?Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Only if he pays the membership fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightbringer
Do you accept gift cards?
My apologies, night phase will have to be extended. I'll have it posted in the morn, but since this is on me, if you want to send orders for the next 12 hours, I'll count them.
Yes, as well as anything that has value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
so you accept |x| where x is a non-zero integer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Pretty much yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Is cake considered an integer?
For tonight, Kagemusha was acquainting himself with the royal gymnasium. It was a wondrous building, just off the east wing, with high, vaulted ceilings and an open roof which collected the moonlight, which reflected off the pool below. At the moment, Kagemusha was currently upside down, performing reverse, standing push ups.
"179, 180, 181..." The burn felt good after a long day of dull argumentation. "182...." With a grunt, Kagemusha heaved himself up for a last, 183rd repetition, before allowing himself to fall to the ground on his back. "Ah... a new record. Excellent, excellent..."
His reflection on his performance was broken by applause. Kagemusha sat himself up and saw two figures in the doorway from the east wing.
"Well done, that was quite a show," the hooded figure on the left commended. "Don't you think?" It asked the character to his right, a man with flowing, white hair and a white robe that seemed to glitter in the darkness.
"Of course. How can one soar without taking the leap?"
"Well said, I couldn't agree more," the first one continued.
"Well, not to brag or anything, but that was a personal best. Always good to push one's self to new limits, eh?" Kagemusha asked in a boisterous voice.
"Yes, I think we tend to agree," the hooded man responded. "But, sometimes," he continued, with a glance at his companion. "It is necessary to be pushed by others." He withdrew a straight sword from his hip, and his companion unsheathed a long, curved sword that glittered in the darkness. "So please, allow us to see how far you can go!"
The two broke from the doorway at a breakneck pace at Kagemusha, who scrambled to his feet. Each one lunged at him from each side with their weapons.
"Hup!" With a grunt, Kagemusha dove forward, flattening his body out as he passed by both weapons narrowly, tucking himself into a roll and righting himself as he turned around to face his assailants. A scuffling could be heard from behind him, and Kagemusha allowed himself a moment to glance behind himself. Two more individuals, each armed with short swords, flooded into the gymnasium.
"Fear not, we shall aid you!" Cried the one one left as they ducked in front of Kagemusha.
"Ah, the sinful gather themselves to us, it seems," the hooded man proclaimed. "All the easier for divine wrath to sweep you up as the tides." He and his companion advanced on the two guardians. The hooded man brought his sword upon his opponent, who attempted to deflect the blow with their own blade, but the force of his strike rattled it from their hands. The white-haired man weaved himself up to the other, flashing its elongated blade in a flurry. The second guardian panicked at the sight and attempted a brutish overhand strike, but their attacker shot its offhand upwards and made a quick jab at the guardian's elbow. The guardian cried in agony as a wave of pain shot through the joint and dropped their blade.
"Tsk, tsk, we've not even had to look down from the nest, nevermind taking the leap," the white-haired man taunted.
"Flee! This is my fight," Kagemusha whispered to them. "Death in battle is glorious, suicide is not!"
The two glanced at each other before nodding and taking off at a sprint. When the opened the doors up, another three individuals rammed their way past them.
"Haha! Excellent! Yes, bring more!" The hooded man proclaimed. "Crash upon us like the tide upon the cliffs, and be broken!"
They took up their place in front of Kagemusha, each armed with a blade of their own, held in two hands. The white haired man grinned as he gazed upon the figure in the middle. "How very... amusing," he noted. He looked to his compatriot and raised an eyebrow, asking an unspoken question. He merely nodded in response.
The two made their move in a flash. The white haired man flew with blinding speed at the guardian in the middle, flashing his glimmering sword as he raised it for a strike. The guardian made a clumsy movement to parry the strike, only to receive a crushing kick to its midsection, sending it flying past Kagemusha, who stared in wonder that anyone could deliver such a powerful blow. The guardian on the right attempted a strike of their own on the white-haired man, who hopped backwards off one foot to evade the attack.
"Enough!" Kagemusha stood now, visibly angered. "No more shall be hurt defending me. Your quarrel is with me. So, face me!"
"You have grown your spine again?" The white-haired man asked. "You, simpleton," it gestured to the guardian on the right. "Give him your blade. Let him face his examination in proper." They gave Kagemusha a confused look, but he gave them a stern nod. With hesitation, they gave him their longsword.
"Criminal scum," Kagemusha began, moonlight glinting off of his forehead in from the open roof. "You face your judgment now. In the name and authority of Emperor Kavehir, I, Kagemusha, will purge you from this world." Without hesitation, he opened the battle with an aggressive movement towards the white-haired man. He struck at him with a short strike, pulling back when it was evaded. He attempted a second strike, but the white-haired man seemed to simply flow backwards, having little trouble evading. He feinted a third strike, before weaving back to the hooded man, catching him by surprise and tearing a slice through his hood as the attack was narrowly avoided at the last moment. A short, wavy mop of black hair spilled out from the ruined hood. He snarled and counter-attacked, sending Kagemusha backwards to evade the attack. Unfortunately for Kagemusha, there was no retreat from his second foe, and a slice from a shimmering, curved blade caught him in neck. Kagemusha collapsed to his knees, grasping his neck and gasping for air.
"Pity," the white-haired man spoke, his eyes suddenly gentle. "You were on the wrong side of this conflict. A shame your loyalty was wasted." He looked to the room, noting the absence of the protectors of earlier. "It is unfortunate for you that more were not made of such stern stuff. Find peace, noble warrior."
It was morning, and Emperor Kavehir, for once, was subdued as he gathered the nobles for the inquisition to be commenced once more. "We are down another noble soul, it seems," he proclaimed to those gathered. "We have lost much. Yet, we must remember, that justice demands sacrifice. My father will be avenged. Those slain will be avenged. We shall rid the realm of this injustice, and then, and only then, can we begin to remake this world in the light of peace. Until that time is come, however, we must march on. So come, let us continue."
Alive:
Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus
DCmort
Edse
El Barto
GeneralHankerchief
Golden1Knight
Ituralde
Johnhughtom
Landlubber
Montmorency
Myddraal
Nightbringer
Sooh
Visorslash
Zack
Lynched:
Abstain (D1)
Andres (D2)
ACIN (D3)
Killed:
Csargo (D1)
Bsmith (N2)
Ironside (N3)
Kagemusha(N4)
Attacked:
Ironside (N1)
Golden1Knight (N2)
Montmorency (N3)
What.
Two attackers, working together, on Kage, who had two sets of protections.
First set failed because of numbers.
Second set failed for reasons unclear.
Full disclosure: I was part of one of the protections. Whether I was part of the two or the three is unknown, but the way my feedback PM was worded (can't quote directly as per rules), it's extremely likely that someone else in my group is a liar and/or imposter.
All three of us CC'd orders. If we were part of the two, that means someone either bailed, whether voluntarily or forcibly. I'm kind of hoping forcibly, as a voluntary bail on a target who the scum (presumably) knew was going to get hit is almost too easy. If we were part of the three, then my best guess is that one of us is a third-party role who can't work together with my group and was unaware of this until now.
My prediction is that I was part of the group of three and was working with somebody who wasn't who they said they were.
Vote: Sooh
The town is infested with mafia. I was in contact with rather limited set of people, but who knows whom they talked with. Thanks for the game everyone!
I know I was where I was supposed to be last night GH, just like I have been previous nights.
I thought 3 was supposed to be enough to protect someone, but here there were a group of three and a group of two, and yet two scum seemed to just be able to nullify it?
It most certainly should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
Why do you think the protection failed?
I don't know.
Perhaps if two scums attack it's not enough?
I don't know what we should do then though.
Were both protection groups Shanahk? I said earlier that you were too many and that you had been infiltrated.
Vote: Sooh
If it is the case that two Mafia can overcome a protection group, then that makes it seem very likely that that Mafia knew that Kage had the power role. Why bother with a double attack if targeting townies at random. To the best of my knowledge, very few people knew of his role for sure (3 that I know of, including me).
It's also very interesting that one of the protection groups clearly failed due to lack of numbers. GH has confirmed that his group all cc'd orders. Can the other group confirm the same (in public or private?)
You buy what GH says just like that at face value?Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
Seems opportunistic.
Well, I think the failed three person group is our best lead, and GH shot first.
Full disclosure: I was the one who recommended that my group protect Kage. However, I had no idea of his role, I simply believed him to be innocent via his posting behavior.
Since this is the first round I've really been able to contribute to in over a week (due to RL stuff), can someone who's followed it closer than me clear up the following things:
1) If there has ever been a situation with two teamed-up attackers before
2) If single attackers bearing similarities to this description have fared well
1) No
2) Actually, I'm not sure we've had people with this description attack before. As of last round, all attackers seemed to fit into a pattern of representing one of the religions (one of them smelt 'musty' (Underworld), the other 'briny' (Sea) and the third seemed to float and wore a golden mask (Sky).
The 'man with flowing, white hair and a white robe that seemed to glitter in the darkness. ' is certainly new, and his accomplice has 'A short, wavy mop of black hair' under his hood.
Hmm, then IMO the possibility of the three protectors simply being overwhelmed by greater numbers just went up. Still think Sooh's a rat though, I didn't like her initial reaction.
Whether or not the attack was a mafia one, it's interesting that someone didn't turn up. We need an explanation for that. It would be good to hear from the other protection group in some form.
There's really not much I can do about you not liking my reaction. Can you specify in what way you think my reaction was bad? I'm trying to be open and easy to read.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Have your group (you, Sooh and a third person?) performed a successful group protection before?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
:crazy: What's been going on? Why can't you all stay quietly in bed instead of killing each other?
When, in comparison to the posts in this thread, did you read your feedback PM?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
The third person and I were part of an inconclusive protection on Night... 2, I think. Maybe N1, definitely not N3. This is my first time working with Sooh.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
So Kagemusha was the bald bearded guy? Only power role I know of.
I worked with Sooh on night 2 in the succesful attack on Golden1Knight, who was simulatenously protected.
The other members of that night action were Ironside, who was killed and your third man from last night, GH. So I fear that doesn't help in determining who of the two is lying. Or if in fact you are lying.
I was not protecting Kagemusha last night, so don't know who made that second attempt, that should have been successful.
Right now I have two theories. The first one is that everyone was where they were supposed to be, but simply got overwhelmed by the fact that it was a two-person team taking on Kage as opposed to the customary one. In this case, the most likely suspect, if anyone, would be whoever dropped out of the two-man protection group. This means either mine and Sooh's third, or somebody from the mysterious other group.
The second one is that somebody in the group of three showed up for the protection, but due to their alignment could not work with regular townies/followers of the same religion - and also were not aware of this fact. In essence, they thought they had a good alibi but were caught.
-edit- And while the first theory appears to be more plausible on the surface, keep in mind that this is a khaan game and town doesn't have a particularly good record at figuring his games out. At all.
Ituralde, what do you think of the lurkers around here, such as JHT and DCMort?
Oh, by the way, my group failed because dcmort didn't send the order. He also happened to be the one who killed Kagemusha, according to my source.
So we should quit with the Sooh bashing and lynch a scum. Capice, GH?
Vote: Dcmort93.
IMO Ituralde can be tomorrow's lynch.
Isn't dcmort known for being borderline inactive?
Unvote: Vote: dcmort93
Myself and Golden1Knight and Dcmort were on Kagemusha. I knew of his true identity, the others did not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrddraal
However, since it was decided to protect him multiple times, the scumbags were tipped off that he was worth ganging up on.
I was very careful to keep his identity a secret. Neither dcmort nor Golden1Knight were ever informed that Kage wasn't even a Firnazian. I told them he was just another member of our cult, to conceal the real reason why he was being protected.
Dcmort never sent the order last night, and now we know it was deliberate.
You never fail to impress. Your first action is to vote for the guy I voted for last night and then I should die the next day?
Awesome.
I have nothing on dcmort93 or jht. They are both complete unknowns to me.
Also wasn't Kagemusha killed by two guys technically? What does your source have to say about dcmorts accomplice?
He has been active every other night of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
Goodbye, dcmort. Hope it was worth it.
Askthepizzaguy is not impressed by your distancing tactic. You haven't acted like a townie all game and you will die, by my own hand if necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ituralde
See you soon, scum.
Isn't it interesting when the leader of the Firnazians calls for your head, Golden1 showed up, but dcmort was nowhere to be seen?
Why wouldn't dcmort vote with his fellow Firnazians? Especially considering how close the vote was.
~:pimp:
I don't need a scan result on you, Ituralde. You're as transparent as they come.
You're saying ganging up let them kill through protection? Do you "know" this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
According to you I haven't acted like town during Pirate Ship either, and I was town there. So your track record is not that impressive. Not that 'acting like a townie' is a very strong argument to begin with.
So do I understand it correctly that the protection made by Sooh, GH and their third member was indeed carried out by all three and they all showed up in the writeup?
Meaning that the failed two man protection was dcmort, Golden1Knight and ATPG? Of which dcmort didn't show up.
So for the Mafia to have known that two separate protection groups were organized for Kagemusha one each of both protection groups must be Mafia, right?
Or someone knew what those three person groups were doing via PM or QT. I didn't know of the Kagemusha protection by GH et al, so I assume the other Shahnaks didn't know it either, maybe with the exception of Visorslash.
Kages death might not have been in vain.
Did I hit a nerve?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Unvote: Sooh
Vote: dcmort
Meaningless, utterly meaningless. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ituralde
I will have your entire team, I swear it. Rest assured Ituralde, I'm not playing around this time.
She may very well be scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
But dcmort is scum and directly responsible for Kagemusha's death. And Ituralde is flapping in the breeze essentially outed as well.
That's one firnazian and one shanak, and if I were Khaan, I wouldn't put the third one inside the Armouz. It's too predictable a setup.
I am willing to wager there's one more shanak scum. Sooh can be the place we start looking, after Ituralde. Not before, my friend.
But the numbers on the protections would seem to indicate against either you or Sooh being involved.
I'll explain via PM.
I agree that dcmort is a good lynch for today, but I don't want to lock ourselves into the next two voting rounds without further discussion.
Assuming what you said is true, then the mafia essentially served up dcmort's head on a silver platter for us. Abandoning a protection group is one thing, but not even bothering to CC fake orders? And not only openly abandoning the protection group, but directly attacking that group's target, therefore making said abandonment public? Either they decided that Kage really needed to die and basically sacrificed a scum (a trade that almost is never worth it unless a more important scum is at risk) to ensure it, or something else is at play.
Call it conditioning, but I almost don't want to believe that we got this lucky.
Not even cc'ing fake orders seems odd, but perhaps he was going to claim it was an accident? In any case, it's worth a crack:
Vote: dcmort
He hasn't made a post since the 6th though. He also said this about weekends:
Quote:
Originally Posted by dcmort93
Note he has been away from the game thread and didn't respond to personal communications for a while. But did the night prior.
This tells me it was a planned absence, intended to give an explanation as to why he wasn't there. So it was a plan of action set a day in advance. It's plausible to get away with it assuming that period of inactivity.
That had to be the game plan. It didn't work because we correctly assumed something about the game setup.
Yeah, that's giving all the heads up you need to not be involved in the protect. When night falls on a weekend, he can simply not send in the order, which was the same order night after night.Quote:
Originally Posted by edse
Just happened to be on the same night the mafia used two folks to strike Kage. It's no coincidence.
Planned action, alibi posted in thread, deliberate concerted effort by the scum faction just when they knew he would have an excuse to not protect Kage, on the same night.
The mafia knew he was being protected by multiple sources. But they cannot have known to strike Kage when they did unless one of the Firnazian were going to pull the protection on purpose. So it was set up in advance. Now they could kill Kage and plausibly explain why dcmort wasn't guilty for doing so.
And furthermore, Kage was worth it. He could increase in power and eventually protect on his own or kill on his own. So that is why they needed to break the protection group.
You give the scums something they want, and they will take it.
I was always going to look at Golden and dcmort with a hairy eyeball, but being away during the critical night to protect Kage would have always gotten my vote on dcmort. I just wouldn't have had proof.
Alright, if anyone wants me to vote for anyone else (or themselves), just write to me, here or in private. *yawns*
There's a bunch of Shanak that I think are townies.
Would you (Shanak) folks look inside your own cult and give your top 2 names for scums inside that cult?
I don't need reasons or cases, just your indication that you think infiltrator(s) could be contained within those 2 names.
My initial reaction was Ituralde because he's an active guy in an inactive game which always smells funny (having been the mafia in that situation plenty of times :laugh4:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Autolycus possibly - he's shown a reasonable amount of interest in this game, though that could simply be town judging by his scum performances in recent games.
Said more than he normally does anyway, and did organise the shahnaks.
Possibly Myrddraal? He keeps trying to protect you, and I think its a wasted protection - scum organising false actions.
Iron and GH i felt are town, GH asked to be killed and all the orders bar mine had been sent in, so that would've worked (if i sent in orders, which i wasnt going to).
So, Sooh, Myrd, Itur basically
Food for thought:
Nobody outside of the Shahnak Three who attempted to protect Kage knew that we were going to do this. Would this make it more or less likely that a leak from Shahnak would have come from one of us, considering that Kage was apparently a super-powerful role that the mafia really needed dead?
Heads up - on the third night (the night I was attacked), Visor got me and Ituralde to join him for a protection on Kage.
So Visor or Ituralde would be the candidates to realize that Kage was the PR. The scum would have said:
"Oh, I was supposed to protect Kage last night", and one of his mates - probably DC - would say, "Hey, wait, Kage is being protected tonight again - we gotta take him out".
Vote: dcmort93 I guess.
Keep mushin that kage in the heavens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
What am I, chopped liver? Do I at least come with fava beans and a nice Chianti?Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
This isn't the :pirate2: game anymore, so I feel comfortable with telling you this to your face:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
I don't drink alcohol. :wink:
Do I at least come with fava beans a nice Snapple?
Autolycus looks good for his voting record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
Myrd is okay in my opinion, I know why I'm being protected. I suggested it.
GH is town, imo.
vote:dcmort is a fine option.