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Originally Posted by Idaho
Possibly, a Hung Parliament would reduce the likelyhood of rapid reforms and cuts, but I think the markets will hold off to see in we do our usual thing of "pulling together" during a crisis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
So I'd give it a couple of weeks, possibly months, before panicking.
Final prediction from me:
Cons 325
Lab 200
Lib 90
Fractional Tory working majority given that Sinn Fein don't vote in Westminster.
anyone else going to join the election sweep-stakes:
and have i missed anyone out?Quote:
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JAG (27/02/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2440038
Furunculus (06/05/10) - Narrow Conservative win:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2483692
Idaho (16/04/10) - Narrow Labour win:Quote:
Furunculus (29/04/10) - Narrow Conservative win:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2459341
Furunculus (29/03/10) - Narrow Conservative win:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2459341
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2471029
Rory (16/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2471056
CountArch (30/04/10) - Conservative led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480544
Banquo's Ghost (29/04/10) - Conservative led hung-parliament:Quote:
CountArch (23/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476911
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480078
Louis (06/05/10) - Conservative led minority government:Quote:
Banquo's Ghost (23/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476913
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2483786
Tbilicus (05/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:Quote:
Louis (29/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480070
Louis (23/04/10) - Labour led minority government:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476925
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2482362
Insane Apache (02/05/10) - Conservative led minority government:Quote:
Tbilicus (23/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476926
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2481378
Beskar (23/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:Quote:
Insane Apache (23/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476935
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2477082
Alh_P (29/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480111
Seamus Fermanagh (30/04/10) - Conservative led hung parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480262
Subotan (30/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480536
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p.s. you can can change your vote, but the original will also be retained..........
voting closes at 5:30pm today, make your changes asap.
Britain still has the US and Singapore to overtake! Then it will be the industrial nation with the most uneven income distribution of all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
Income inequality in Britain is now back to the level of the Victorian age. Back, too, is the tendency to blame poverty on a moral deficit of the lower class. Dickens is turning in his grave. Gone too, is social mobility - now the lowest in Europe. The UK is a class society again.
Last year, the richest ten percent of Britons got 30% wealthier. Crisis? What crisis? The largest transfer of money from the poor to the rich since the Industrial Revolution. The bill will still have to be paid, the money has been borrowed by the state. This election is about who is going to pay for it the next few decades: the recipients of the handouts, i.e., Britain's wealthy and the international billionaire club in the City, or Britain's tax paying working classes?
I blame NuLab for not having done more in the past thirteen years for it's natural base: working class Britons. Miss Duffy indeed. But whereas she is 'that bigoted woman' to which Blair and Brown are deaf and blind, the Cons are always worse still. Their philosophy is based on thinking of this woman as morally deficit, inferior. Her little pocket change benefit fraud - barely a fraction of what the rich manage in tax evasions - the cause of Britain's financial woes. A woman not worthy of equal education, nor her children or grandchildren. A woman of another Britain, inferior Briton.
lol, i don't recognise that description of the tories.
the ten canary seats that will indicate in whose favour the vote surge is going:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/elec...ion-night.html
BNP candidate batters Asians
I think what Griffin said is true, the media are trying to turn the BNP into the axis of evil. Which is pointless and unfair, since they are mostly disaffected Labour voters. Most people I know that support them are old women. :laugh4:
Eh? What part of being a disaffected labour voter is it that means one is right to vote BNP???Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr
If the BNP were given any power they would only extend the current misery their voters might experience to others, through some appalingly misguided policies that have little or nothing to do with the economic or political interests of the country. How on earth is that a good thing?
Cons 285Quote:
Originally Posted by Furunculus
Lab 255
LibDem 85
Furthermore, I also predict the remaining parties will take all remaining seats. :knight:
Thank you, Furunculus, for keeping track of our predicitions. Good fun.
Disgusting, both groups of men. Off to gaol with the lot of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr
A very astute observation! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
My pleasure
just louis and I with final day predictions so far, anyone else going to join in with seat predictions for the big three?
anyone else going to join the election sweep-stakes:
and have i missed anyone out?Quote:
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JAG (27/02/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2440038
Furunculus (06/05/10) - Narrow Conservative win:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2483692
Idaho (16/04/10) - Narrow Labour win:Quote:
Furunculus (29/04/10) - Narrow Conservative win:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2459341
Furunculus (29/03/10) - Narrow Conservative win:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2459341
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2471029
Rory (16/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2471056
CountArch (30/04/10) - Conservative led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480544
Banquo's Ghost (29/04/10) - Conservative led hung-parliament:Quote:
CountArch (23/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476911
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480078
Louis (06/05/10) - Conservative led minority government:Quote:
Banquo's Ghost (23/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476913
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2483786
Tbilicus (05/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:Quote:
Louis (29/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480070
Louis (23/04/10) - Labour led minority government:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476925
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2482362
Insane Apache (02/05/10) - Conservative led minority government:Quote:
Tbilicus (23/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476926
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2481378
Beskar (23/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:Quote:
Insane Apache (23/04/10) - Labour led hung-parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2476935
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2477082
Alh_P (29/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480111
Seamus Fermanagh (30/04/10) - Conservative led hung parliament:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480262
Subotan (30/04/10) - Conservative led minority government:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...=1#post2480536
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Furunculus = Cons 325 / Lab 200 / Lib 90
Louis = Cons 285 / Lab 255 / Lib 85
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p.s. you can can change your vote, but the original will also be retained..........
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voting closes at 7:00pm today, make your changes asap.
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This is complete rubbish, unmitigated hogwash upon which I am forced to pour utter scorn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
I am sorry Loius, but this reads like a Marxist describing the Upper Class, and the Upper Class have never had a Marxist understanding of their own position.
In any case, the working class effectively don't pay tax, especially as most of them are now on benefits.
Face it, social mobility improved under the "nasty" party, and now it has decreased under Labour.
As to my prediction, I think a Conservative majority of no more than 40, possibly more than 30. How the Left wing will break up, I don't know.
In less turgid news, the BBC has a link to politics-related sketches. I particularily appreciated The Minister for Cuts although neither black adder or Yes minister worked (probably a bit overloaded).
Enjoy:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/extra/collections/p007jyx1
a list of all the major newspapers and who they are backing, including who they backed last time where that has changed:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/elec...election0605am
How so? The Asian guy spat in his face so the BNP guy battered him. Good for him I say, a politician from any other party would no doubt have taken the 'brave and noble' option rofl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
People want the BNP to be the axis of evil, so they ignore everything to the contrary and demonise BNP supporters so they can make it so in their head. The fact is, the majority of BNP supporters are not the skinhead thugs you want them to be, just ordinary working class folk who don't know muhc about politics and feel cheated by their traditional party of choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by alh_p
Do I like the BNP? No. Do I sympathise with the BNP's policies? No. Do I sympathise with the average BNP voter? Yes.
Prescott anyone? How many times did that obese moron lash out without it being made political?
If someone in th BNP farted whilst facing East that'd make the news as another attack on Islam...
~:smoking:
agreed. totally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr
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any more seat predictions?
Well it seems most people my age still view the Tory party as the "nasty party". I've also spoken to a lot of people today who decided to put an X next to their local Labour candidate. Apparently Brown should be void of all blame in regards to our current financial state. Apparently Labour couldn't of avoided doubling the national debt, it was out of their hands.:rolleyes:
I don't think it's so much we need a Conservative government, I just feel that after 13 years Labour are completely detached from the electorate.
It will be interesting to see the exit polls around 10ish. I'll post them here for those not in the UK and those who don't want to stay up all night watching the results come in. They generally give us an idea which party has one the most seats and shouldn't be to far outside the end total for number of seats won.
Imagine having two parents. One is always buying toys for the children, fancy foods and days out. The other one doesn't, saying that there isn't the money and they've got to cut back to pay off the credit card debts, and the underpayments on the Mortgage.
The children love the first parent for all the nice gifts and a wonderful time. The second parent is hated as being stingy and a kill joy.
Never is the lack of money consciously pinned on the actions of the first...
~:smoking:
Yes, and the majority of Nazis have never killed a Jew with their own hands either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr
Nazi thugs they are, the BNP. I, for one, will never ever forgive the BNP / Eriksen for their saying that ´women are like gongs - they need to be struck regularly':
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eriksen
and you wonder why, despite being utterly repellent thugs, people still continue to vote for them..............?
Right, so BNP supporters in effect don't know better -i'd agree with that, and extend it to the majority of the electorate (especially as we've not really seen any proposals for dealing with the deficit).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr
I'm under no illusion that there are misguided people who support the most heinous of proposals without being outright evil, but that is what the whole of politics is about to me: the fight for the minds of voters. For the BNP, that battle is won by convincing people that they are poor because of foreigners and would ergo be better off without them around.
My Grandmother will not vote Tory due to what Churchill did to the Miners...
I imagine that most BNP voters are not aware of this statement, rather like Tory / labour voters were not implicitly backing the MPs expenses.
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As a matter of fact, I do wonder, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Furunculus
Here you go: a record haul of home-made chemicals for terrorist attacks, not from the IRA or Pakistanis, but the BNP:
Quote:
Chemicals Find: Two In Court
TWO Pendle men have appeared before Pennine magistrates accused of having "a master plan" after what is believed to be a record haul of chemicals used in making home-made bombs was found in Colne.
Robert Cottage (49), of Talbot Street, Colne, and David Bolus Jackson (62), of Trent Road, Nelson, made separate appearances before the court charged with being in possession of an explosive substance for an unlawful purpose.
Cottage is an ex-BNP member who stood as a candidate in the Pendle Council elections in May.
Mrs Christiana Buchanan, who appeared for the prosecution in Jackson's case, alleged the pair had "some kind of masterplan".
She said a search of Jackson's home had uncovered rocket launchers, chemicals, BNP literature and a nuclear biological suit.
You wouldn't seriously compare advocting mass rape of British women with an expenses scandal?Quote:
Originally Posted by rory_20_uk
Actually, the more I read about it, the more I wish we had a true equivalent to the BNP here in the USA. I mean, think about it, Pretty much ALL of the potentially dangerous right-wing nutters in one group where the police can infiltrate and stay ahead of them easily. Now THAT is efficient.
I am comparing ignorance to events.
~:smoking:
will labour fall foul of the golden rule of electoral polling:
http://www4.politicalbetting.com/ind...ive-the-night/
i.e. whenever polls have been tested against real election results it’s been the survey with Labour in the least favourable position that has been the most accurate.
I thought you had one. The Republican party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh