You expect the captain to take it upon himself to actively disrupt townie group actions1, prioritize stopping vig groups over stopping French from finding recruits2, and wants townies tied up in meaningless busywork3?
It's not how I expect a captain to act.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
1Tried to set up protection groups against rumored vig targets and had Visor thrown in the brig. This is my biggest problem, and I would not have mutinied otherwise. He has not apologized or taken any steps to rectify the fact that he directly opposed townie night actions without sufficient reasoning.
2Blocked Visor because of suspected vigilantism, not because of suspected Frenchness. More concerned with stopping nightkills (which the French are demonstrably not participating in at this point) than stopping recruitment and eliminating the French (which can be accomplished through the vig groups).
3He wanted me and others to protect his officers, who already have innate protection and were extremely unlikely to be attacked. Asked people to steal gold from specific targets. Wants people to protect vig targets, resulting in 7+ players completely wasting their time.
Other:
- Micro-managing/control freak. Giving specific orders to every player in the game, even absurdly specific (not just "steal" but "steal from this particular player"). Demands everyone account for their actions to him, despite a lack of anything clearing him, while reluctant to disclose his own actions or plans.
- Power-obsessed. The first person he threw in the brig was the most vocal opponent to both his candidacy and time in office. Wants everyone to submit to him and his authority. Unwilling to work with people and act as anything less than a tyrant. On a minor note, his officers are the two people to vote him into the captaincy, showing a preference for the spoils system over meritocracy.
- Difficult. Ignores issues and concerns people have brought up, refuses to address them and condescends.
Individually, any of these is regrettable but ultimately acceptable in a captain (with the exception of point 1 about disrupting town actions). Taken together, it's unacceptable.
Methinks, vote:zack must be french. Footnotes are not the way of the true seafarer!
09-29-2015, 00:37
Zack
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
vote: autolycus I guess
09-29-2015, 00:47
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprig
"Order and Organisations? Nay, we all follow the code, the pirate code! *Squawk*"
Squawky Jim was incensed. He couldn't quite believe what he was hearing. Outside threats being ignored and encouragement of stabbing each other in the back. Jim shook his head. 'Madness.' he thought..
"I paid my dues, proved my worth many times overs whether at sea or on land. Orders and organisations are second nature to me. But it was clear when I signed on for this gig that while we may plunder and make gold where we may, but bot against our fellow crew, Men that we have fought side by side with... This is a black mark against your honour. *Squawk*"
"I can't abide by a Captain and First mate that sanction and encourage stealing against our own. I vote:Mutiny. I also Unvote :El Barto; Vote: Andres. *squawk*"
I thank ye wiv all me heart fer castin' away yer vote fram me, an' next time please use yer own voice instead o' yonder parrots.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotJimRV
It was not.
Vote: Mutiny
Let's get some support for new leadership going then. Naturally I'll have a little bit of self-interest, but Kage appeared to me a little bit too kage-y earlier for my tastes. (One another thing that hasn't been mentioned yet was how close the vote was yesterday. As it is in politics, perhaps it should be from someone who doesn't want the bloody thing.)
Dunno who to vote for. It's hard to get a read on people when you don't know anyone :<
As I keeps telling ye, if an' when ye votes fer Kagemusha ye is ta vote fer hsi second-in-command, lest vengeance be a-comin'.
Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
Methinks, vote:zack must be french. Footnotes are not the way of the true seafarer!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
vote: autolycus I guess
Arrr, me lord, he sucketh!
09-29-2015, 00:51
landlubber
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
Methinks, vote:zack must be french. Footnotes are not the way of the true seafarer!
What's up with this?
09-29-2015, 00:56
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
An attempt not ta simply blunder oor way into a bandwaggon-lynch, landlubber-me-lad.
This appears ta be the tally o' lynch-votes.
Andres: Montmorency; Sprig
Montmorency: Andres
Zack: autolycus
autolycus: Zack
Mutiny vote still ain't there yet. What saddens me the most be tha' there be almost nae discussion on that lynch there.
09-29-2015, 01:04
autolycus
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
I thought I'd hit post on this hours ago, but since I apparently didn't, vote:Mutiny
09-29-2015, 02:05
BSmith
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprig
"I can't abide by a Captain and First mate that sanction and encourage stealing against our own. I vote:Mutiny. I also Unvote :El Barto; Vote: Andres. *squawk*"
Aye, this be how I feel about things as well. vote: Andres and vote: Mutiny.
Ice was in a protection group with me last night. I informed you of this.
I can confirm this, as I was in the same protection group.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
It seems strange that so many people were robbed last night.
Not really. Stealing is available to everyone, and seems to be the default action of the selfish townie or scum. That, + the French didn't kill, so they were doing something else. Stealing being a possibility.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
The Captain was guarding his gold.
Double A put someone in jail.
Wait, I thought you had an allignment scan? Or does your investigation only reveal people's actions?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
What is treacherous about trying to get your hands on some unprotected gold?
However, for the paranoid among you, Golden Hands offer their services to protect your hard earned gold.
Stealling distracts from scumhunting sowes inter-town conflict. The same, incidently, is true of racketeering, which is basically what your doing with this whole "Golden Hands" thing. Ordering people to steal, and then demanding money in exchange for protection.
I've also receieved confirmation that Kage has been ordering people to steal, which has no effect, except to sow discord amongst townies and waste people's time. Basically Kage is ordering people to do anti-town things
vote: Mutiny and vote: Anders
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Nae sic thin' as an end tae rum!
This would appear ta be the present tally, if anyone be enough o' a scurvy cur ta be misrepresented here or na' represented at all, then let hisself be heard from.
El Barto: Sprig
Montmorency: Andres
Andres: Montmorency
Telling other people to vote, but not voting for anyone yourself? unvote: Anders. vote El Barto
Why can't I lynch both of you?
Quote:
Originally Posted by NotJimRV
It was not.
Vote: Mutiny
Let's get some support for new leadership going then. Naturally I'll have a little bit of self-interest, but Kage appeared to me a little bit too kage-y earlier for my tastes. (One another thing that hasn't been mentioned yet was how close the vote was yesterday. As it is in politics, perhaps it should be from someone who doesn't want the bloody thing.)
Dunno who to vote for. It's hard to get a read on people when you don't know anyone :<
Being part of a failed vig group (or a sucessful one, for that matter) is no alibi, and Visor, you should know this
Quote:
Originally Posted by autolycus
Methinks, vote:zack must be french. Footnotes are not the way of the true seafarer!
WTF is up with this post? Your ignoring all the discussion in thread and casting a trivial vote
________________________
general information:
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
An attempt not ta simply blunder oor way into a bandwaggon-lynch, landlubber-me-lad.
This appears ta be the tally o' lynch-votes.
Andres: Montmorency; Sprig
Montmorency: Andres
Zack: autolycus
autolycus: Zack
Mutiny vote still ain't there yet. What saddens me the most be tha' there be almost nae discussion on that lynch there.
there are 27 people on the ship. The Mutiny needs 14 votes to suceed.
It currently has 10 without my vote, and 11 with it.
09-29-2015, 02:46
spaceman98
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Oh wow I missed a couple of mutiny votes. We're at 13/14
09-29-2015, 02:50
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Wiv yours'n, it be 13. I be voting whatever Curio votes.
09-29-2015, 02:52
Zack
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Something I feel has been glossed over - protecting and stealing/guarding treasure is not as definitive an alibi as killing. A vigkill details in the public update how many people in that group performed the action, so people in the group are held accountable for going through with it. Hell, in the last game at least one Spanish person in a vig group killed a teammate because they couldn't risk not going through with it.
09-29-2015, 02:53
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
vote: Mutiny lynch: Andres
09-29-2015, 02:54
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Not totally on board the whole being made captain thing because imma do a terrible job at coordinating any sort of network. Also I'd have to be the deciding vote in the mutiny as of right now and that's not righteous.
Spacey, Kage, why are you guys so against random vigging? Marauding bands have a small chance of killing a scum, tis true, but protection rings have an even smaller chance of picking a good target. Furthermore, the Frenchman and Maveneers have a 0% chance of killing one of their own. If we want to win the night, we have to remember any%>0% in terms of killing off our foe.
09-29-2015, 02:55
Visor
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
that be 14 votes for a mutiny
09-29-2015, 02:55
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
welp ninja'd by Tak
09-29-2015, 02:57
Zack
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman98
Not really. Stealing is available to everyone, and seems to be the default action of the selfish townie or scum. That, + the French didn't kill, so they were doing something else. Stealing being a possibility.
Seems unlikely to me. Finding and recruiting potential converts and infiltrating townie groups is what the French are going to be doing at night. Stealing is a waste of time for them. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they claim to be stealing, it was a popular Spanish lie last game.
Quote:
Wait, I thought you had an allignment scan? Or does your investigation only reveal people's actions?
I actually checked the last game and the first scan was in fact a track. Additional scans needed for more in-depth results.
Quote:
Stealling distracts from scumhunting sowes inter-town conflict. The same, incidently, is true of racketeering, which is basically what your doing with this whole "Golden Hands" thing. Ordering people to steal, and then demanding money in exchange for protection.
I've also receieved confirmation that Kage has been ordering people to steal, which has no effect, except to sow discord amongst townies and waste people's time. Basically Kage is ordering people to do anti-town things
vote: Mutiny and vote: Anders
Despite what I said above, I agree that stealing isn't super helpful.
Quote:
Being part of a failed vig group (or a sucessful one, for that matter) is no alibi, and Visor, you should know this
Yes it is - the update lists three people attacked x, and Visor was thrown in the brig. This confirms that the other three people did in fact try to kill x.
09-29-2015, 02:57
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Why be ye mentionin' ninjas in a pirate thread, Doubloon-A?
09-29-2015, 03:02
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
because you're a loser
09-29-2015, 03:06
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
I be votin' fer you as cap'n once Kagemusha be dead, then fer a mutiny next day ta earn us some other 10 doubloons, an' yer skull cleft by me cutlass pers'nlly if possible.
09-29-2015, 03:08
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Don't ye mean katana, ye fujilubber?
09-29-2015, 03:09
Visor
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
I'll vote Andres as well.
09-29-2015, 03:09
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Tha' be IT!!! Someone hol' him afore I kill 'im!
09-29-2015, 03:10
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by GH
In addition, at any point in the day phase you may vote to mutiny. You may do this by adding in a Vote: Mutiny in with your normal vote. If over 50% of living players vote to mutiny, the Captain is lynched along with whoever has the most votes, and instead of proceeding to night, a new Captain selection process follows. If the vote is tied, the status quo remains.
Should you decide you don’t want to mutiny, you may simply write in Unvote: Mutiny at any time in the day phase. There are no official consequences for participating in a failed mutiny, but the Captain will almost surely remember those who were not loyal to him. A successful mutiny results in large amounts of treasure gained for all those who voted for the mutiny.
obligatory vote: mutiny
I suppose vote: spaceman for being against semi-random vigging of inactives.
09-29-2015, 03:11
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Thee beest a coward, Double A.
09-29-2015, 03:15
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
As yellow-livered an' white-faced as a Vatican flag ye be, Double A. Hang ye I shall, afore long.
09-29-2015, 03:18
spaceman98
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Not totally on board the whole being made captain thing because imma do a terrible job at coordinating any sort of network. Also I'd have to be the deciding vote in the mutiny as of right now and that's not righteous.
Spacey, Kage, why are you guys so against random vigging? Marauding bands have a small chance of killing a scum, tis true, but protection rings have an even smaller chance of picking a good target. Furthermore, the Frenchman and Maveneers have a 0% chance of killing one of their own. If we want to win the night, we have to remember any%>0% in terms of killing off our foe.
Well, protection rings can prevent the French from killing.
Also, who are the Maveneers and why do you think they exist?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Seems unlikely to me. Finding and recruiting potential converts and infiltrating townie groups is what the French are going to be doing at night. Stealing is a waste of time for them. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they claim to be stealing, it was a popular Spanish lie last game.
I actually checked the last game and the first scan was in fact a track. Additional scans needed for more in-depth results.
Despite what I said above, I agree that stealing isn't super helpful.
Yes it is - the update lists three people attacked x, and Visor was thrown in the brig. This confirms that the other three people did in fact try to kill x.
Sure, but it says nothing about their allignment, unless we also know the allignment of x. If x is town, then it still says nothing about their allignment
09-29-2015, 03:21
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman98
Also, who are the Maveneers and why do you think they exist?
They be the Frenchmen's crew fram one o' his friends' ships, called The Maven. Be savvy, wise up, read yonder OP posted by muckle Hankerchief! They be a three-man cheese-eating surrender team o' scumbags. Cat-o'-nine-tails fer them.
09-29-2015, 03:22
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman98
Well, protection rings can prevent the French from killing.
Also, who are the Maveneers and why do you think they exist?
In the OP story fluff, the Frenchman hired a couple of crewmen from the Maven, the Presence's rival ship.
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
Thee beest a coward, Double A.
What pirate isn't a yellow-bellied dog at heart?
That's not rhetorical, by the way. The answer is a barnacle-scrubbing ninja such as yerself.
09-29-2015, 03:23
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
also spaceman confirmed for wifom unvote
vote: El Ninjo
09-29-2015, 03:25
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
An' noo ye be castin' invalid votes, ye swine! Ye should be made ta walk the plank along wiv the Cap'n an' his First Mate.
09-29-2015, 03:31
Ishmael
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
vote: Andres
Partly for the gold for voting, and partly so we can have a clean slate with regards to the previous leadership team (no offence Double A, but it seems that the captain and first mate were the most involved in directing the crew, by all accounts). This saves us from second guessing who was behind the decisions made in the three days until Kage's alignment is revealed.
09-29-2015, 03:33
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
An' noo ye be castin' invalid votes, ye swine! Ye should be made ta walk the plank along wiv the Cap'n an' his First Mate.
I don't really support either dying. I'm pretty confident Andres is town, based on his single-minded pursuit of gold. I don't know what to think of Kage, but I'd rather get over with this drama and continue on with purging the ship of our rivals. Has this sham provided anyone with a lead? I'm honestly curious to know.
If people want to elect me captain, I have to participate in the mutiny, which had already succeeded when you put your black headband in the ring. If someone jumps off the wagon, I will too. I'd rather be captain than see potentially a scum gain the position. However, if everyone would rather have notjim than me, I'd be okay with that because he seems pretty alright.
09-29-2015, 03:36
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishmael
…partly so we can have a clean slate with regards to the previous leadership team (no offence Double A, but it seems that the captain and first mate were the most involved in directing the crew, by all accounts)…
He were playin' video games, mate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
I don't really support either dying. I'm pretty confident Andres is town, based on his single-minded pursuit of gold. I don't know what to think of Kage, but I'd rather get over with this drama and continue on with purging the ship of our rivals. Has this sham provided anyone with a lead? I'm honestly curious to know.
If people want to elect me captain, I have to participate in the mutiny, which had already succeeded when you put your black headband in the ring. If someone jumps off the wagon, I will too. I'd rather be captain than see potentially a scum gain the position. However, if everyone would rather have notjim than me, I'd be okay with that because he seems pretty alright.
Well, I be one who does na' want ye as captain, or on any livin' position at all.
09-29-2015, 03:36
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
If people want to elect me captain, I have to participate in the mutiny
You actually don't. Only mutineers get a say in the next Captain election, but they can pick anyone - mutineer or not.
09-29-2015, 03:37
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
oh sweet unmutiny
09-29-2015, 03:39
El Barto
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
:stare:
09-29-2015, 03:40
Visor
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
We've already hit the cap however. So you're cheating yourself from gold at this point.
09-29-2015, 03:44
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by El Barto
:stare:
:rolleyes:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
We've already hit the cap however. So you're cheating yourself from gold at this point.
I dunno, I still got principles. GH will I get bonus money for ignoring my principles in pursuit of money?
09-29-2015, 03:45
Zack
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
We've already hit the cap however. So you're cheating yourself from gold at this point.
:quiet:
09-29-2015, 04:21
Xiahou
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
We've already hit the cap however. So you're cheating yourself from gold at this point.
Wait, dog-piling an already decided mutiny vote gets me money? Vote:mutiny
Quote:
Originally Posted by landlubber
Let's clear this up then.
Yeah, I contacted you in private. I dispute that I appear reluctant-- I didn't vote for Kage as captain, and I refused to be marshaled by him last night when he realized there was a bloc of people who were planning independently of him. I know where my loyalties are, and they were never with him.
We're building a new world, Johnny-boy. Come along.
This just seems incredibly French. He protests too much. Vote: landlubber
09-29-2015, 04:22
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Ya! This was nothing unexpected. I will return to you bloody lot closer before i get to leave this bloody world. Goodday Ya all!
09-29-2015, 04:27
GeneralHankerchief
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Wait, dog-piling an already decided mutiny vote gets me money?
Yeah, probably going to patch this one after this round. Keeping it the way it is for now though, wouldn't be fair otherwise.
09-29-2015, 04:34
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Right, I'll take that as a yes. vote: vodka mutini
09-29-2015, 05:13
landlubber
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
This just seems incredibly French. He protests too much. Vote: landlubber
Not following this line of reasoning. Unless you think that the mutiny is French (which you surely don't), me opposing Kage doesn't mean I'm French.
Anyway, vote:autolycus. Pinged me earlier, and I'm not really loving the Andres lynch.
09-29-2015, 05:33
Ituralde
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
There be change in the air then.
Vote: Mutiny
Killing.off the First Mate for good measure sound good but I not be convinced he is French. Also this will loose us any additional info from his investegatin.
Shouldn't he be kept on to finish looking into DoubleA? Second time s the charm, right? That do be how the scanning worked last time?
09-29-2015, 05:46
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Come on now. Everyone with bit of sense, vote for mutiny, so you will get some gold. No point wasting me death like that.
09-29-2015, 05:48
Zack
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Come on now. Everyone with bit of sense, vote for mutiny, so you will get some gold. No point wasting me death like that.
Can the captain vote for a mutiny?
09-29-2015, 05:51
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Can the captain vote for a mutiny?
I cant vote. I could have done something during night, that no captain after me can, but it could have messed up your future wearing bright French uniforms. So lets leave it to that.
09-29-2015, 05:52
Zack
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
No point holding back now.
09-29-2015, 05:54
Zack
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Also sorry if post 370 sounded mean-spirited. I didn't mean it that way, only as a joke in response to you saying everyone should mutiny at this point, but I now realize it might seem like unnecessary salt in the wound.
09-29-2015, 05:55
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
No point telling it either. Let me concentrate on me flask of rum and not waste me time with such trivial things as rambling to mutineers.
09-29-2015, 05:59
Choxorn
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Vote: Andres
09-29-2015, 06:00
Zack
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
No point telling it either. Let me concentrate on me flask of rum and not waste me time with such trivial things as rambling to mutineers.
Lame!
09-29-2015, 06:02
Ituralde
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
It be nothing personal. It be about the gold! You pay me, I elect you. Your money be up for grabs , I mutiny.
09-29-2015, 06:05
spaceman98
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Wait, dog-piling an already decided mutiny vote gets me money? Vote:mutiny
This just seems incredibly French. He protests too much. Vote: landlubber
Your on my suspect list, after El Barto and Andres and Kage. You voted Andres the captaincy last time, avoiding taking a position on either of the two leading candidates (NotJim and Kage) https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053658983 and your making this throwaway statement this time.
09-29-2015, 06:17
Andres
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
FoS : all of you votin me.
The idea is to lynch Frenchies not pirates who don't want to walk in line.
Racketeering? Extortion? Guilty as charged. But that doesn't make one French. It only disrupts network in a game design es by the host in such a way that networking wont lead to victory.
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09-29-2015, 06:44
Xiahou
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman98
Your on my suspect list, after El Barto and Andres and Kage. You voted Andres the captaincy last time, avoiding taking a position on either of the two leading candidates (NotJim and Kage) https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053658983 and your making this throwaway statement this time.
I didn't support either for captain- so I voted for neither. Not voting isn't an option, so I voted my conscience. A frenchie would want to stay hidden in the pack- not vote as an outlier.
Landlubber seems to be taking the three bears approach and it's just oh so French seeming to me. Active, but not too active. Defensive, but not too defensive, ect. He, Choxorn, and you, with your non-defense defense of landlubber, are currently the most suspicious in my mind.
I think lynching Andres at this point is a mistake. He's too attention seeking to be a french spy.... or perhaps just very clever.
09-29-2015, 07:22
Ituralde
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Let's be practical about it.
There was 28 of us starting last night.
There were three vigilantee groups: One four man group, two three man groups. That's 10 people accounted for.
Then there be Andres investigatin: 11 people accounted for.
There be DoubleA blocking Visorslash: 13 people accounted for.
Kagemusha did nothing as catpain: 14 people accounted for.
Then there be protection groups: I know of two so far: 20 people accounted for.
Two people were stolen from, so there be two robbers: 22 people accounted for.
The remaining six, one or two of them be Frenchies for sure. There be no french kill last night, means they were a-recruitin - the first step being to check for susceptibility.
Maybe even three of them French, but then one of them be havin part in a group to avoid suspicion.
So I be wantin to vote for one of those six, not for Andres. The best would be the one botchin up the vigilante group, but I do not know who that be.
But you have to start somewhere, also there be gold in voting. Vote: Lissa
09-29-2015, 08:36
seireikhaan
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Vote: Mutiny
Not a huge fan of this, but I'm out for number 1 here.
Vote: Landlubber
I need to do a reread of the thread for tomorrow, but for now, I like Xiahou's line of thinking, for whatever it's worth.
09-29-2015, 09:02
Ironside
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Vote: Mutiny
For the gold mostly. The major drive against him does give a day 1 organisation impression.
Vote:Zack. That justification is way overthinking it (clear example of putting the justification after the intention) and there's some odd statements here and there. 7+ people locked down in a visible order is wasting townie time, like we have anything else to do except stealing. Now someone with more important orders might find it more wasteful.
Hopefully this be correct, if not just count yerself!
09-29-2015, 11:10
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Vote: Mutiny
I'm admittedly not completely sold on this - but we are too far gone on this path for anything I can say to change this today.
Vote: landlubber
I think Andres is simply playing his own game: money, seems his object. I'm sure that there is something else at stake for him, but I do not think he is French.
More to follow later...
09-29-2015, 11:37
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Vote: Landlubber
I just think that lynching Andres is silly, but whatever.
I got nothing against landlubber but Andres makes me chuckle.
Mutineers against the Captain have failed to convince me he was French, and they don't really need my help. Kagemusha was one of the few friendly souls I've spoken to so far.
He maybe needed to heed my warning more, but I had nothing against him.
*raises grog*
To Captain Kage, may he find peace.
09-29-2015, 11:53
Askthepizzaguy
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
I didn't support either for captain- so I voted for neither. Not voting isn't an option, so I voted my conscience. A frenchie would want to stay hidden in the pack- not vote as an outlier.
Landlubber seems to be taking the three bears approach and it's just oh so French seeming to me. Active, but not too active. Defensive, but not too defensive, ect. He, Choxorn, and you, with your non-defense defense of landlubber, are currently the most suspicious in my mind.
I think lynching Andres at this point is a mistake. He's too attention seeking to be a french spy.... or perhaps just very clever.
^
This guy should be the Captain, or at the very least, listened to.
09-29-2015, 12:25
johnhughthom
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Vote: landlubber
09-29-2015, 12:55
NotJimRV
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Sorry laddies, been only able to look at the thread now and about to head to bed soon.
vote: lissa because i honestly forgot she was playing
09-29-2015, 13:29
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Ok you lot. Now that the day is dimming. Il tell you what i think before i get to leave you and this bloody ship for good.
You bunch, dont have to look further then to Monty, Ice and spaceman and possibly Visor. There you have your frenchies, apart of course the wannabees waiting to be converted.
Monty set up a hoax protection group for Visor and put Ice there so he could hide his inactive scum buddy. The attack against spaceman was never meant to succeed as it was also one man short on purpose. Me thinks Visor is either part of the same frenchie gang, or wannabe as he allowed Ice to be hidden in the protection group and did not attack him, like the other inactive TFT. There you have it. There are your enemies, at least for those who are not sorry enough to want to serve them.
Ive said my piece and now im ready to leave this misery. At least i will end my days as pirate and not a slave to Frenchmen.
There. Be done with it.
09-29-2015, 13:56
Visor
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
If that hypothesis is true Kage, then your team is Monty, Ice, Spaceman and possibly Lissa.
09-29-2015, 13:58
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
If that hypothesis is true Kage, then your team is Monty, Ice, Spaceman and possibly Lissa.
Im no Frenchie, which you will find out nor want to be one. Unlike you.
09-29-2015, 13:59
Montmorency
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Ok you lot. Now that the day is dimming. Il tell you what i think before i get to leave you and this bloody ship for good.
You bunch, dont have to look further then to Monty, Ice and spaceman and possibly Visor. There you have your frenchies, apart of course the wannabees waiting to be converted.
Monty set up a hoax protection group for Visor and put Ice there so he could hide his inactive scum buddy. The attack against spaceman was never meant to succeed as it was also one man short on purpose. Me thinks Visor is either part of the same frenchie gang, or wannabe as he allowed Ice to be hidden in the protection group and did not attack him, like the other inactive TFT. There you have it. There are your enemies, at least for those who are not sorry enough to want to serve them.
Ive said my piece and now im ready to leave this misery. At least i will end my days as pirate and not a slave to Frenchmen.
There. Be done with it.
:laugh4:
Now, to all those defending Andres: there's no indication that he has scanned anyone yet, which is gross misuse of his office.
The only possibilities are that he is negligent townie, fronting Frenchman, or undetermined third-party. Eliminate him and be done with it.
09-29-2015, 14:02
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Well Monty, where is your buddy Ice to claim his gold? Visor you still have yet to tell who were you attacking last night? Do amuse soon to be dead pirate you two, or did cat caught your tongue?
09-29-2015, 14:04
Visor
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Well Monty, where is your buddy Ice to claim his gold? Visor you still have yet to tell who were you attacking last night? Do amuse soon to be dead pirate you two, or did cat caught your tongue?
I technically just claimed it above.
I was not on the spaceman attack. I wanted the TFT attack to succeed so I specifically put myself off it and onto someone who I highly doubted the kill would succeed on.
09-29-2015, 14:05
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visorslash
I technically just claimed it above.
I was not on the spaceman attack.
Well then who you targeted? I dont care for ya technicalities.
09-29-2015, 14:10
Visor
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Well then who you targeted? I dont care for ya technicalities.
I targeted ATPG. The others with me can confirm.
09-29-2015, 14:16
Kagemusha
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Ok. Fine enough. Thank you for enlightening poor old Kage and see ya in hell! :P
09-29-2015, 14:24
Double A
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ituralde
Let's be practical about it.
There was 28 of us starting last night.
There were three vigilantee groups: One four man group, two three man groups. That's 10 people accounted for.
Then there be Andres investigatin: 11 people accounted for.
There be DoubleA blocking Visorslash: 13 people accounted for.
Kagemusha did nothing as catpain: 14 people accounted for.
Then there be protection groups: I know of two so far: 20 people accounted for.
Two people were stolen from, so there be two robbers: 22 people accounted for.
The remaining six, one or two of them be Frenchies for sure. There be no french kill last night, means they were a-recruitin - the first step being to check for susceptibility.
Maybe even three of them French, but then one of them be havin part in a group to avoid suspicion.
So I be wantin to vote for one of those six, not for Andres. The best would be the one botchin up the vigilante group, but I do not know who that be.
But you have to start somewhere, also there be gold in voting. Vote: Lissa
They were probably scanning for recruits. Blindly recruiting is an incredibly risky strategy at this point.
Here's my godfather role from last game so expect something similar to this but probably stronger.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Your role is:
Spanish Special Officer
“Those who’ll play with cats must expect to be scratched.”
~ Miguel de Cervantes
For over a century, Spain’s empire in the New World has been preyed on by the other European colonial powers and the scum of the earth men they hired to carry out their work for them. In a word, they were successful at this. As Spain faced problems at home, New Spain rotted from the inside. Things have changed in the last several decades, though. With peace finally achieved in Europe, government-sanctioned privateers became a thing of the past, leaving the only real threat in the Caribbean being the pirates.
In response, the Guardacosta was formed, proving to be a far more effective method of combatting piracy than anything the Spanish had tried before. You, a proud man of Spain willing to do anything to serve his country, have risen through the ranks and now command two men designed for more… undercover operations.
The three of you were stationed on the Treasure Fleet to make sure that everything in the process went smoothly. Things were going fine until the Presence struck. In the confusion of the boarding, you and your lieutenants managed to slip aboard. Your goal now is to eliminate every last one of these miserable scumbags and return the treasure to its rightful owner: His Majesty King Philip V of Spain.
Your goal: You are an incorruptible man of Spain (more than can be said for many in the Guardacosta) and thus treasure is not a motivational factor for you at all. Your singular mission is to eliminate or subordinate every single non-Spanish affiliated person aboard the ship. You must survive with one original Guardacosta agent.
Your Lieutenants in helping you accomplish this task are Jolt and Makrell.
Powers: Every night, you may accomplish one of the following tasks:
- Investigate two persons a night to determine susceptibility to Letters of Marque. This is a unique power available only to you.
- Team up with a fellow Guardacosta agent to kill one person a night. However, if you are the only agent left, you may kill solo.
- Go out individually and offer a Letter of Marque to one person. If your target is susceptible to Letters of Marque, they will join your team and become a Guardacosta Convert. If your target is NOT susceptible, then you stand a chance of being discovered.
- Participate in town group activities (including protection).
You may NOT Abandon Ship under any circumstances. To do so is unthinkable to an honorable man of Spain such as yourself.
Additionally, your officer training has served you well. The first time you are attacked in the first three nights, you will (probably) fend your attackers off regardless of numbers. However, sea life eventually takes its toll, and starting the fourth night you will lose this ability.
Lastly, before you took this mission, your superior officer mentioned that a particular Frenchman of some nobility was aboard the Treasure Fleet, apparently heading home. You lost track of him in the confusion but will still keep your eye out for him. You do not mention this to your Lieutenants as they as this information is below their pay grade and frankly, you don’t entirely trust them. Good luck!
Base gold: 110
09-29-2015, 14:25
Visor
Re: Pirate Ship Mafia III
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Ok. Fine enough. Thank you for enlightening poor old Kage and see ya in hell! :P
You expect the captain to take it upon himself to actively disrupt townie group actions1, prioritize stopping vig groups over stopping French from finding recruits2, and wants townies tied up in meaningless busywork3?