Cereal killer mafia

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Ngl you weren't even on my list of expected deaths tonight. What made you expect you to be top kill?

I was anticipating Visor myself.

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I had one vote all day and that was barto based on his first and only post.
Everybody that has any idea how to read me had me as villager.

The main reason for me not to die is because some people don't know me.

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Originally Posted by Jan

The wagons were lackluster enough that a w/w world felt possible to me.
And I think some people will always push to resolve d1 wagons.

Maybe just a bad pr read (or Wolves hit protection and this was a vig shot).

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Ngl I was gonna push Monty today if he was left alive. Maybe not as hard as yesterday but didn't feel like it was unpairing to me.

i thought jan or ladd were most likely to die given the vote (inb4 bussers)

i guess a monty kill makes me think bussing is more likely but even so, hard to go there for now

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Ngl I was gonna push Monty today if he was left alive. Maybe not as hard as yesterday but didn't feel like it was unpairing to me.

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??? lol

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Originally Posted by Visor

??? lol

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His Wisdom vote felt like it could've been trying to not vote a partner idk.

Feels a little silly now he's flipped green.

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Originally Posted by Visor

i guess a monty kill makes me think bussing is more likely but even so, hard to go there for now

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Kind of why ladd and you are not in my actual villa circle and have your own separate slots.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

His Wisdom vote felt like it could've been trying to not vote a partner idk.

Feels a little silly now he's flipped green.

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idk i just dont think monty would play that eod as w/w like that

moot point anyway

jan, is tammy a busser? only recall playing turbos really with her and no memory lol

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Originally Posted by Jan

Kind of why ladd and you are not in my actual villa circle and have your own separate slots.

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Originally Posted by ladd

vote:el barto

Gonna make a boring place holder but 99% ill be back

I dont say this often but this feels like the kind of game that could use some eod chaos

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I can easily see wolf!ladd putting down this vote expecting it to be offwagon.

Again not where I want to look right now.
His vote still killed a wolf in the end.

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Originally Posted by Visor

idk i just dont think monty would play that eod as w/w like that

moot point anyway

jan, is tammy a busser? only recall playing turbos really with her and no memory lol

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Don't know for certain.

I gave her all the reasons to move away when I said not to sheep me. I just really don't think she is a wolf. But I am also the person she would be pocketing right now.

i think the wagon was pure, everyone on it is villagery on top of having voted a wolf


and i dont say this just cause i am on it :curtain:



also possible monty was vigged and the nk was saved shug.jpg

hello

part of why i thought monty was a villager overnight is specifically cause barto wagon looks pure and monty wagon looks like it has at least 2 wolves on it

if wagons were w/w, wolves would be bussing barto, not monty



anyway, i just wanna hear more from the PoE today but ender push on monty felt a RVS vote turned into a real push and reminded me of his push on syn that game where he was a wolf. this post:

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Heya Monty.

Can I have some brief top town/top wolf reads from ya?

Just like... idk

First 3 names for either like Taffy did to pocket you.

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felt like a classic post a wolf makes to the villager they ar epushing to make them think they still care to revalutate them


and this:

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Ngl Visor hard-sussing me but not trying to actually build a wagon on me but also interacting with me to disagree with my Monty read is wolfy interesting.

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is a pretty fun shroop of the wolfy kind IYAM

Hey, so I am here, been feeling not the best just as a heads up

I have some notes that I made overnight though on where I am at.

Fair warning I was really tired when making these reads and they may or may not actually reflect where I am at in the game like... however many posts from now I re-evaluate things, like I wanted to look at Syn again for instance cuz I wasn't following sus on him when the threadstate seemed to sus Syn a lot from what i recall.

#215 is a towny post on ladd from EnderWiggin

EnderWiggin has these sort of towny stream of thought posts #210

Kinda like Visor but not following the sus on EnderWiggin

Very sure Syn is town #164

#226

I hate literally everything Rask is saying and I don't know how to process that.

Wisdom is mega wolfy feeling just on how I have seen them treat Jan. Maybe also oppurtunistic on Montmorency

Montmorency being pushed for being Montmorency I see. I think they are maybe outed town for like this one comment on El Barto #247

There is something "mild" feeling about Jan and idk how to read it. Not with Wisdom is how i will read it for now LOL. But he is def town out of the 2 honestly, like I townread like... some of like the things i see

Sleep is the most obvious town I have read this game. Congratulations, especially if you are wolf!

ladd I would say is pretty towny. I saw ladd cast a kinda big net on potential suspects, but idk if that means anything esp day 1, El Barto dying d1 means threadstate was probably generally towny?

Suibian is very obvious town. I mean between this/ladd/jan/visor, wouldn't be surprised if 0 mafia in here.

Taffy feels more lazy then me and im typing this at night when i really shouldn't be... 1 in Taffy/Rask maybe?

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Sidenote: Please point me to posts that you want me to see/comment on for important post visibility, thanks

Also coming into today, I feel more like Jan is town

I should have and meant to put asterisks around my Monty notes :p since he died. was too focused on hyperlinking some stuff that i kinda gave up on half way through

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

My wolfrange is "Yes" if that helps.

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I feel like this could be a scummy quote

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Ngl Visor hard-sussing me but not trying to actually build a wagon on me but also interacting with me to disagree with my Monty read is wolfy interesting.

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You are the same person that predicted Visor would die in the night aren't you?

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Right I nearly forgot. But Taffy trying to bait people into scumreading them is actually towny I think.

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This sounds like a towny thought to say, but I am unsure if it means anything for Taffy just because I have seen wolves do stuff like this (though I don't recall the context of this post, this isn't something I have noticed from Taffy, but I also checked them last before just crashing into bed).

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Ladd feels mildly opportunistic in the way his reads have moved. I'm keeping this one in my back pocket but I'm also not gonna explain it because idk. I'm not calling this one a scumread so much as--

Actually yeah nm Ladd can be 4th on my list.

What do you mean it was supposed to only be 3 names??

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Again, I do think this post is towny

Do you have the same feelings about ladd now? I mean you literally did say that ladd used a generic reason to push you and also said that the last time this happened ladd was wolf but also i dont think u voted ladd for any of this so...

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Good luck getting as much effort about any of my other reads this phase.

My other sort of scumread rn is Jan.

Mostly cause (and this is going to sound self-centred I know), the following post:


It feels like the lame-duck style I see often used to shade people without directly attacking them.

I also don't know Jan that well so this is a wild hipshot of a read but I feel good about it.

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Eh.

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

His Wisdom vote felt like it could've been trying to not vote a partner idk.

Feels a little silly now he's flipped green.

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Well I have looked far and wide but there isn't a read on Wisdom in your ISO, but what is your Wisdom read? I am curious

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I still think EnderWiggin is town after looking again though, thought he popped in today kinda towny too with the Mont sus with justifications... after the fact that they don't matter anymore

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Originally Posted by ladd

is a pretty fun shroop of the wolfy kind IYAM

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"Wolfy interesting" is a specific call out to Pizza's guide. =P

vote: Taffy

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Originally Posted by Cape90

You are the same person that predicted Visor would die in the night aren't you?

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Yes. That was before he sniped the wolf at eod chaos.

It went from "Sus visor" to reading at night and nodding and then "Ah, town visor."

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Yes. That was before he sniped the wolf at eod chaos.

It went from "Sus visor" to reading at night and nodding and then "Ah, town visor."

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I would not be so quick to lock-town someone who voted out a 1-post slot

Hi, I don't really get why the stuff I quoted from Syn I thought was towny, so I will look more and see if I missed something.

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Originally Posted by Syn

hello

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That's all ur pop in? IDK I thought interesting things like ladd's EnderWiggin vote happened this SOD. speaking of

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Originally Posted by ladd

part of why i thought monty was a villager overnight is specifically cause barto wagon looks pure and monty wagon looks like it has at least 2 wolves on it

if wagons were w/w, wolves would be bussing barto, not monty



anyway, i just wanna hear more from the PoE today but ender push on monty felt a RVS vote turned into a real push and reminded me of his push on syn that game where he was a wolf. this post:



felt like a classic post a wolf makes to the villager they ar epushing to make them think they still care to revalutate them


and this:



is a pretty fun shroop of the wolfy kind IYAM

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1. I mean I guess, but it is an outlier in EnderWiggin's ISO, it isn't the norm and I have asked plenty a question like that to someone I suspect who I feel underwhelmed by as town. In other words IDK if that is really AI.

2. That's funny, I mean I will bounce between those words when describing things, but I don't usually put them both together (you are aware of this too as you called it a SHROOP). I don't put stock into SHROOP reads at all though.

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Anyways back to Syn

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Originally Posted by Syn

that's not why I unvoted him tbh

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Thought this was towny at first glance, but it is one of those things that could be said to not seem like you have an agenda.

Just because Taffy obviously phrased it that way (the person Syn is responding too (I wish this site wouldn't do this with it's quotes tbh)). But it makes it so that there is only 1 right answer that Syn can give as either alignment.

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Originally Posted by Syn

outed tbh

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Originally Posted by Syn

logic does not parse

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Yeah I kinda agree with Syn, though in the context of Syn revoting Rask, I think it might be towny for Taffy. Like if Syn wasn't voting Rask at all there, I would think it was wolfy tbh.

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Originally Posted by Syn

Jan is town and is very cute also

(are you watching, sleep)

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What's the significance of Sleep here?

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Anyways I don't feel as strongly that Syn is town anymore.

They have a focus on Sleep that I found questionable

Pop in today wasn't great.

But Syn's POV seemed to be around the same area I was at when I was looking at things this game.

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Originally Posted by Syn

I would not be so quick to lock-town someone who voted out a 1-post slot

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Eh maybe but I'm not going there today

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Originally Posted by Cape90

Well I have looked far and wide but there isn't a read on Wisdom in your ISO, but what is your Wisdom read? I am curious

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Forgot to respond to this. I kind've don't have one. Wisdom felt like they were doing something and I don't have the best track record and I didn't understand Visor's sus on me let alone Wisdom so I just sorta ignored it in favour of the person I thought was sus.

Wanted to look back at the slots I feel like I have barely looked at.

So Suibian... even though they did kinda vote on El Barto... anyways

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Originally Posted by Suibian

Are you saying me tone reading you is dumb because your scum range is that wide? Like you're going hahahaha I will make you paranoid! It's totally fine just fine. I'm good at reevaluating.

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This is either really towny or really wolfy and IDK which XD

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Originally Posted by Suibian

I want to believe in Visor and give Monty a day.

I don't want to follow on ender though even though I should probably accept that he has more experience and my early tone read might be dumb and wrong, but I still like it right now.

I will follow onto wisdom. Their posts seem fine but I don't have an actual read there.

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Suibian did say this... kinda generic, but also explains why they wouldn't go Monty there

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Originally Posted by Suibian

Kind of like the subtle paranoia of Taffy expecting to be pushed but not being pushed. Makes the thinking I accepted a town read I shouldn't and ignored make more sense.

Sleep - I was kinda expecting your vote to end up on Monty based on your posting so your wisdom vote was a surprise. I didn't remember anything they posted, so I read through their iso to see if I should sheep you and they seem fine? How strong is your meta read there?

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Another thing that I also read as either really towny or really wolfy.

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Originally Posted by Suibian

Same. I was considering voting Monty but his more recent posts have me feeling like maybe I'm confused by him rather than I scum read him. Don't know.

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Originally Posted by Suibian

I agree with this too. When Ladd asked me what I liked about the posts and went back I realized that it was mostly emojis and what I liked were a couple sentences that aren't really all that alignment indicative but I had a knee-jerk maybe I'm just confused by him reaction.

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I don't really like this given the Monty flip, like they both very much bother me and Sleep looks good IMO bringing attention to this.

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Originally Posted by Suibian

Indeed I do! Will you teach me?

And Ender's post that follows this one makes me feel like my earlier thoughts about Monty were on target and not just confusion. hrm

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#203
I get pocket-y vibes here...

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Originally Posted by Suibian

His 166 and 167 felt a bit more natural? Looking back there's not a huge reason why and scum could definitely feel a bit more natural as they settle in from early awkwardness, but I liked I liked the scary mind meld with a catch response to taffy and your read's posts, and I liked the bit about bracing himself for humiliatingly misreading ender or kage.

So, yeah not enough to go this guy is town, but enough for me to consider that I might just be confused by his earlier approach.

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#166

#167

These posts are fine, I could see how one could townread the second thing, less so the first thing. Also all the things Suibian pointed out are from 167 and not 166 at all, just wanted to point that fact out.

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Yeah let's pretend the obvious town part never happened, though I see where I got that read. I kinda gutread their ISO as wolfy though just looking at it and seeing also how post length also kinda took a back seat (this was mentioning that they didn't like posting like that) (but they did anyways which is ~:confused:)

Don't like their Monty treatment really, if there is a busser, I think it's here more so then Visor

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Originally Posted by Cape90

That's all ur pop in?

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I don't play the game during the night so yeah

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What's the significance of Sleep here?

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Sleep said I was pocketing Jan

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

Ladd and Ender because they're posting the way I'm used to them posting when town, and none of the things that usually tell me they're wolf are present

Wisdom for extensive mindmelding in her reactions to Jan's posts

Jan and Syn because they seem to be compulsively pushing on every bit of misyeet bait available

Suib because she completely ignored my slot after I gave her a cheap townread for something nobody should ever townread anyone for

The Visor line

1. to take a dig at him for what he said about me in his readslist
2. to show I've read it
3. to let him know I think it's weaksauce

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I think ur town upon just kinda plain looking again but i do pose a question

You said later on in the game that you expected to be pushed by people that didn't know you

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

It's D1 and I'm playing with a bunch of people who have never played with me before, from experience my expectation is to get pushed.

All of you cannot be experts in reading awkward lowposters. And mostly I'm trying to push Visor for a read but well...

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you have also confirmed this is what u meant so I can't really take it any other way

Sooooo if you are misyeet bait and you expect to be pushed for being that by Visor for instance, why are Jan and Syn wolfy for pushing on misyeet bait???

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Originally Posted by Syn

I don't play the game during the night so yeah



Sleep said I was pocketing Jan

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idk I just thought you might have at least had a comment on EnderWiggin/ladd since I at least found that interesting SOD, I don't come in with the expectation that you have read over night.

Didn't realize u were still around though when I posted and it had been like a half an hour so I had just assumed you were gonna leave for a while until u came back

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Originally Posted by Cape90

idk I just thought you might have at least had a comment on EnderWiggin/ladd since I at least found that interesting SOD, I don't come in with the expectation that you have read over night.

Didn't realize u were still around though when I posted and it had been like a half an hour so I had just assumed you were gonna leave for a while until u came back

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always watching babeeeeey

Uh this is a post about Wisdom

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Sorry to burst your reasonings but this week have been hecking busy, currently playing because I'm guarding an exam at work which is kind of chill, but yeah, I'm busy as a bee atm. It's NAI

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I kinda wolfread this, but idk if those reasons are at all good.

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Kinda vibing with this. I can't remember montmercy's meta but this makes both ladd look more v and monty look more w.

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eh I don't like this post very much

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

<3 Vote me you coward!

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Good thing you're voting me then!

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So I saw other people townreading Taffy for this similar thing, but not townreading you for it

Opinions on that Wisdom?

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

I mean sure, in a vaccuum I get it, it's just that statistically wolves are way more prone to call me town early than town are (when I'm town at least), so I'm being cautious. ^^

And, I mean, you're right, so a point to you if you're town here!

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idk how to feel about this

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

I'd say Rask is the closest I have to a town read because his approach to me is exactly what I expect v!Rask's approach to be. Problem is that he is aware, so it coooould be calculated.

So, no, I don't really have a town read that I strongly believe in.

Ender kinda vibes like I remember v!him to be?

I dunno, I want more heat in general from everyone at the moment.

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i see a lot of townreads on Rask and I just remember looking at his posts and having a negative reaction to most of them LOL

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

I hereby proclaim that both Rask and Syn are town!
Reason: Gut instinct

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Gut wolves
Jan
Syn

I hope you can steer me the right way if I'm wrong here friend!

Syn is more jokey than snarky which I tend to find wolfy from him
Jan is only gut, didn't vibe with how easy he called me town, but I haven't actually tried to read him properly in years (I think we've only played mashes) so I have no clue.

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So the 1 slot Wisdom has been inconsistent on is Syn so I will keep that in mind.

IDK I have found Syn jokey as town before i think

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Originally Posted by Sleep

that's because i did! i got the notice i was replacing in, then procrastinated for a few hours, and by that time it was 1 AM but i didn't feel like leaving the thread with nothing before i went to sleep (no pun intended). call it self-conscious if you like, i knew if i just made an intro post and dipped i was probably going to catch shit for it and then i wind up getting into arguments with people and it completely kills my ability to actually get reads.

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i feel that honestly :p

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Originally Posted by Sleep

what are you seeing with syn that i'm not

tammy hates wolfing and everytime i've seen jan draw wolf in a mash he's phoned it in. obviously vastly different game environments but for someone who has been semi-retired for a long time he seemed eager to get into the thick of it in a way that is way more likely town

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i kinda like this post though tbh

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Originally Posted by Sleep

im not necessarily asking about worldviews but montys whole game basically has been built around criticizing rask and it feels like ur not actually trying to analyze what hes saying so much as you decided to call him scum on page 1 and then use any reason to justify it, i would expect a townie to try to reduce cognitive dissonance there but it looks like a very vague generic attack rather than anything based on his actual content

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this seemed like a v/v thing with Sleep/Syn tbh (with how Syn responded to this point later on tbh) (and those are the townpoints I award Syn), but kinda looks better for Sleep

I don't get the unvote though a whole post later. Vibe thing?

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Sleep im still calling town

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Vote on Visor no longer valid I guess?

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Monty, where is your head at?

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Thoughts on Visor anyone?

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generically wolfy questioning (more so the 2nd/3rd).

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I agree with this read

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Yeah, I also felt this when looking at Ender.

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Originally Posted by Jan

Rasko jumping into the fray and basically leaving rvs 1 seconds in should read good but ..

I have trouble agreeing with several takes tbh.


Let's start with this one. Wisdom doesn't really strike me as a player who will start the game as a wolf basically asking for heat.
Which is what the initial post does.

Maybe I am missing some inside joke between the two, but Rasko has not really joked and instead played an early aggression game.


Second take is this:

In reference to this:


And I am scratching my head because Montys post in both worlds is not serious.
Copy/pasta is shitposting and partners with cuth is shitposting because cuth is not in the game.

If this was a toan read or something like that I could accept it, but that reason makes so little sense to me.

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This does outline my problems I had with Raskol's postings pretty well honestly.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

what would that do for you?

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???

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

ok I will actually provide you with something more (outside my ironclad read on Synchan):

there is a real disconnection between the content of that Monty post and the vote on me. Like if he felt the need to justify making me a wagon (third vote iirc).

Dumb read but that's actually why I posted what I posted. Lettuce see how it unfolds during toDay.

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This post also bothered me, but i also recognize it was very early on in the day

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I am actually just more neutral now on Rask though, there just isn't enough there for me to feel strongly on

Vote: Raskolnikov

Eh why not, I could see the tryhard accusations coming off of #35 I guess. It was an argument I have seen regarding w!Rask

Kinda expecting wolves this game to just kinda feel defeated for some reason just after day 1 tbh

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

"Wolfy interesting" is a specific call out to Pizza's guide. =P

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Fair enuf

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Changed my mind Taffy is a wolf.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

lol

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Originally Posted by Syn

outed tbh

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You all really thought I'd end the day still parked on the RVS vote I made in my first post? You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Especially Ender.

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Originally Posted by Visor

ender or wisdom pls

dont kill monty or rask

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Originally Posted by Visor

a four way tie is acceptable

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So we're not supposed to kill Monty or Raskolnikov, but a 4-way tie that includes both is fine? Explain yourself and make it good, I find a lot of your EoD/SoD posts incredibly lamist but I'm tired of misyeeting you.



Stay tuned for my second post where I tmi why Monty died.

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

You all really thought I'd end the day still parked on the RVS vote I made in my first post? You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Especially Ender.

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My post there was a joke.

sup

sorry for missing out on the deadline when i said i'd be here but uh good job with the vote i guess. always feels a bit lucky whenthe day 1 vote on someone who barely posted turns up mafia but i'll take it

Part two bc multiquote sucks.

I'm JOAT, and I will be deciding the wagons today. Proof:

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVSuSsoXABQ

I am awake because I make bad choices.

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In my first post I'm saying I wish I was VT (listen to the lyrics) because I'm afraid I'm going to whiff my night actions (which I did, because I docced wrong. Sorry Monty). This is the end of my second post:

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

This post is a Taffy hardclaim.

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And then Monty's very next post is him fpsing:

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcdI1u_9o8

You asked?

Allez, venez, Milord!
Vous asseoir à ma table
Il fait si froid, dehors
Ici c'est confortable
Laissez-vous faire, Milord
Et prenez bien vos aises
Vos peines sur mon cœur
Et vos pieds sur une cuvette laiteuse
Je vous connais, Milord
Vous n'm'avez jamais vue
Je n'suis qu'une louve du fourr(é)
Qu'une ombre de la rue

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I thought it was bloody obvious what with his replying to my song with a song, but apparently not.

So one of today's wagons is going to be Syn for trying to create an extra counterwagon to a wolf voting with people he was scumreading for someone he'd previously unvoted. I also hate the dismissive not-quite-responses I'm getting from him.

The others I'm still choosing from (Wisdom Visor Ender). Wisdom because at EoD I actually felt like there was a wolf in danger before Barto became a wagon. But I'm hoping my initial read was correct and that she'll come out today and post herself clear.

Visor because if Wisdom is town he has fantastic wolf equity pushing her and when that not quite works bussing a dud wolfbuddy.

Ender gets another post because I need more quotes.

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Originally Posted by Visor

idk i just dont think monty would play that eod as w/w like that

moot point anyway

jan, is tammy a busser? only recall playing turbos really with her and no memory lol

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my memory of tammy as mafia was mostly her rolling over and dying but this was over a decade ago now (i will never stop trolling her about this)

don't think she'd be the type to bus but hard to defend a person who barely posted anything. i have played with her more recently than anyone here and think she's just town though



if someone bussed i'm not gonna be able to find them today and every time i try to do something like that it ends up being a throw


vote: ender

sheeping ladd tbh

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

I'm JOAT, and I will be deciding the wagons today. Proof:

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is there a reason you felt the need to claim? not doubting it but just, like, why

do not have time to digest multiple wallposts tonite, i was told this would be a chill game! back at it tomorrow i guess

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

I'm JOAT, and I will be deciding the wagons today.

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You can try and watch how I respond to people trying to make a team game a solo act.

Or you can be a normal human being and make a case and get the added benefit that I think you are a villa.

Part 3, for Ender ??

If you look at this exchange:

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Originally Posted by Visor

truthfully i don't really care about that at all

would prefer to leave monty for another day

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Well unless you gimme a good reason to go somewhere else I'm not gonna.

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

He posted a most excellent song, with gripping lyrics and moving delivery.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

I think only Rask really got it.

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I'm literally telling you that Monty is claiming PR, and you not only persist in voting him but then he dies in the night. I'm sorry but you can't ever endgame after that.


So yeah sorry for being aggressive and dictating everybody's POE but you come into the day and see a whole town wondering at the NK like blind mice stumbling about in the dark I just couldn't sit and watch that trainwreck. At least now everybody knows what was happening yesterday and we can solve properly.

Also those who don't cooperate will be wallposted at. Long, rambling, sleep deprived wallposts with such poor formatting you'll run to the archives and stare wistfully at Monty's old games.

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

Part 3, for Ender ??

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That's supposed to be a heart emoji bc the on-site one is meh.

:heart: so anemic.

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

Also those who don't cooperate will be wallposted at. Long, rambling, sleep deprived wallposts with such poor formatting you'll run to the archives and stare wistfully at Monty's old games.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YRgaVomZ4

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Put down that chainsaw and listen to me
It's time for us to join in the fight
It's time to let your babies grow up to be cowboys
It's time to let the bedbugs bite

You better put all your eggs in one basket
You better count your chickens before they hatch
You better sell some wine before it's time
You better find yourself an itch to scratch

You better squeeze all the Charmin you can
While Mr. Wipple's not around
Stick your head in the microwave and get yourself a tan

Talk with your mouth full
Bite the hand that feeds you
Bite off more than you chew
What can you do?
Dare to be stupid

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

So one of today's wagons is going to be Syn for trying to create an extra counterwagon to a wolf voting with people he was scumreading for someone he'd previously unvoted. I also hate the dismissive not-quite-responses I'm getting from him.

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This would be non-ideal, for secret reasons

as for the rest of your post, it is gobblygook, and the "it was so obvious I was claiming" schtick is silly, but for now I have no reason to doubt the claim

unvote: Taffy

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Originally Posted by Jan

You can try and watch how I respond to people trying to make a team game a solo act.

Or you can be a normal human being and make a case and get the added benefit that I think you are a villa.

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You already thought I was villa I've read your readslist. Also this is just a losing play as a wolf.

As for wanting a team game feel free to set the example instead of bristling.

actually I don't want to deal with taffy and cape wasting precious hours/posts casing me all day, and the EOD time makes a last-second claim to save myself too risky

I am vig and I shot monty (counterwagon, didn't see anything compelling to suggest they were unpaired either, independently scum-read monty). whoever taffy docc'd is confirmed town as well

The people posting super villagery this game were actually villagers

Who would have thought eheh


I really wanna see more from rask/wisdom cause cape is prob a villager too

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

You already thought I was villa I've read your readslist. Also this is just a losing play as a wolf.

As for wanting a team game feel free to set the example instead of bristling.

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Don't worry. I will listen to the arguments and vote where I feel my vote needs to be.
I am just telling you to ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueFTrwHFEs

@Totally not Taffy

Who d you doc?

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Originally Posted by Syn

actually I don't want to deal with taffy and cape wasting precious hours/posts casing me all day, and the EOD time makes a last-second claim to save myself too risky

I am vig and I shot monty (counterwagon, didn't see anything compelling to suggest they were unpaired either, independently scum-read monty). whoever taffy docc'd is confirmed town as well

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This is a somewhat self-resolving claim.

I am not sure if the village would have a joat and a vig (and maybe more) but that is not a problem to resolve today.

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Originally Posted by Jan

This is a somewhat self-resolving claim.

I am not sure if the village would have a joat and a vig (and maybe more) but that is not a problem to resolve today.

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it was a one-shot so feel free to string me up tomorrow or something

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Originally Posted by Syn

actually I don't want to deal with taffy and cape wasting precious hours/posts casing me all day, and the EOD time makes a last-second claim to save myself too risky

I am vig and I shot monty (counterwagon, didn't see anything compelling to suggest they were unpaired either, independently scum-read monty). whoever taffy docc'd is confirmed town as well

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ok I can't make up my mind if you're trying to cover or a wolf fishing for my doc target (and for all you know Monty was double tapped if you're legit) I need sleep talk to you tomorrow

nah syn is never a wolf lol

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Originally Posted by Syn

it was a one-shot so feel free to string me up tomorrow or something

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Yeah, but you would say that because it is a multishot and you want to survive the night!

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

I'm literally telling you that Monty is claiming PR, and you not only persist in voting him but then he dies in the night. I'm sorry but you can't ever endgame after that.


So yeah sorry for being aggressive and dictating everybody's POE but you come into the day and see a whole town wondering at the NK like blind mice stumbling about in the dark I just couldn't sit and watch that trainwreck. At least now everybody knows what was happening yesterday and we can solve properly.

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Originally Posted by Syn

actually I don't want to deal with taffy and cape wasting precious hours/posts casing me all day, and the EOD time makes a last-second claim to save myself too risky

I am vig and I shot monty (counterwagon, didn't see anything compelling to suggest they were unpaired either, independently scum-read monty). whoever taffy docc'd is confirmed town as well

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There is something really funny about this.

"The blind leading the blind" is an idiom and a metaphor in the form of a parallel phrase; it is used to describe a situation where a person ignorant of a given subject is getting advice and help from another person who is just as ignorant of the subject.

Anyways I just hope syn is a villa because this is just precious tbh.

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Originally Posted by ladd

nah syn is never a wolf lol

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why not? the claim is bad enough and it might buy a day or two. (and if wolves have some sort of pr that could be a difference maker)

It is not a wolf claim if the other wolf is someone like ender who already gets a lot of heat at this moment.

taffy prob docced me or visor. i hope its visor so i dont have to tinfoil him

:curtain:



and whoever said a vote on a 1 poster wolf is not worth that much - ya in general i agree but:

- jan is a pretty obvious villager by posting

- suibian has been called villager strongly by both people with meta on them, has been posting good and had arguably the most important vote on barto

- visor has seemed his villa self not settling for the easy pushes of the game by going after bigger targets, it helps that its hard for me to see a world where ender/wisdom does not have at least 1 wolf. so like he could be with exactly rask i guess? he would be my top guess for a busser cause he is a slimy soab and would absolutely buss there but i am def not even looking in his direction today

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Originally Posted by Jan

why not? the claim is bad enough and it might buy a day or two. (and if wolves have some sort of pr that could be a difference maker)

It is not a wolf claim if the other wolf is someone like ender who already gets a lot of heat at this moment.

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1) syn was uber villagery even before the claim

2) monty being the vig shot and taffy getting the doc in makes a lot more sense than wolves shooting monty

how is the claim bad

this is a classic situation where occam's razor is right iyam

taffy docced the nk

the vig shot the counterwagon


and everything makes sense

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Originally Posted by Syn

how is the claim bad

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it is bad because there is no way to confirm that it is legit.

with 2 kp shown it is easier to believe the claim.

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Originally Posted by ladd

this is a classic situation where occam's razor is right iyam

taffy docced the nk

the vig shot the counterwagon


and everything makes sense

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It is totally possible. I am worried that you and syn would be exactly the team of two that would run this narrative.

Just based on your behavior today. You can easily be a villa and correct in your read.

Not a huge priority to resolve right now.

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Originally Posted by Jan

It is totally possible. I am worried that you and syn would be exactly the team of two that would run this narrative.

Just based on your behavior today. You can easily be a villa and correct in your read.

Not a huge priority to resolve right now.

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alrighty, fair enuf

syn is just a villager and i think we can all at least agree that it makes no sense to even discuss lunching them today



so assuming that me/you/syn/taffy/tammy are all villas, who are the wolves IYO? thoughts on cape's posting?

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

ok I can't make up my mind if you're trying to cover or a wolf fishing for my doc target (and for all you know Monty was double tapped if you're legit) I need sleep talk to you tomorrow

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I really don't think your "Monty is claiming PR" is as obvious and believable as you think it is. neither your "I was claiming" and "Monty was claiming" look to be anything remotely comprehensible to me

you might have seen him as claiming, but that seems to be a uniquely taffy affair

so with that in mind, it feels vastly more likely you docc'd the NK target

me "fishing" for the doc target is meaningless

you already claimed JOAT

you're dead anyway. you can't keep your doc target hidden until a later day

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Originally Posted by Jan

it is bad because there is no way to confirm that it is legit.

with 2 kp shown it is easier to believe the claim.

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I wasn't really planning on revealing it until a later day, but things change when a PR comes out and vows a death tunnel

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Originally Posted by ladd

alrighty, fair enuf

syn is just a villager and i think we can all at least agree that it makes no sense to even discuss lunching them today



so assuming that me/you/syn/taffy/tammy are all villas, who are the wolves IYO? thoughts on cape's posting?

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Cape is ~fine. I haven't looked that closely yet tbh. The energy levels are good. Doesn't feel like a defeatist wolf, which is a good start.

I should revisit my Wisdom villa read considering everyone else is thinking about that slot and my read is very vague and mostly "I expect Wisdom to behave differently as wolf".

But I don't think that my reads list from earlier is totally different post-claim.

fwiw I don't think wisdom is a wolf

wisdom is a wolf imo if the team is exactly barto/wisdom/cape. don't think they would be this low energy otherwise. I could see it if both of their teammates were no-shows

villager who isn't super invested feels more of a fit

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Originally Posted by Syn

wisdom is a wolf imo if the team is exactly barto/wisdom/cape. don't think they would be this low energy otherwise. I could see it if both of their teammates were no-shows

villager who isn't super invested feels more of a fit

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They said they are busy regardless of alignment

Idk i wouldnt put too much stock on their activity being ai

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

Part two bc multiquote sucks.

I'm JOAT, and I will be deciding the wagons today. Proof:




In my first post I'm saying I wish I was VT (listen to the lyrics) because I'm afraid I'm going to whiff my night actions (which I did, because I docced wrong. Sorry Monty). This is the end of my second post:



And then Monty's very next post is him fpsing:



I thought it was bloody obvious what with his replying to my song with a song, but apparently not.

So one of today's wagons is going to be Syn for trying to create an extra counterwagon to a wolf voting with people he was scumreading for someone he'd previously unvoted. I also hate the dismissive not-quite-responses I'm getting from him.

The others I'm still choosing from (Wisdom Visor Ender). Wisdom because at EoD I actually felt like there was a wolf in danger before Barto became a wagon. But I'm hoping my initial read was correct and that she'll come out today and post herself clear.

Visor because if Wisdom is town he has fantastic wolf equity pushing her and when that not quite works bussing a dud wolfbuddy.

Ender gets another post because I need more quotes.

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damn using cornflake girl as a way to PR soft is actually insanely based

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Originally Posted by Sleep

do not have time to digest multiple wallposts tonite, i was told this would be a chill game! back at it tomorrow i guess

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Yeah sorry, I mean, I mostly did that just to fully catch up with everyone just because I felt like i hadn't

@Visor how strongly do you feel about ender being a villager?

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

Part 3, for Ender ??

If you look at this exchange:




I'm literally telling you that Monty is claiming PR, and you not only persist in voting him but then he dies in the night. I'm sorry but you can't ever endgame after that.


So yeah sorry for being aggressive and dictating everybody's POE but you come into the day and see a whole town wondering at the NK like blind mice stumbling about in the dark I just couldn't sit and watch that trainwreck. At least now everybody knows what was happening yesterday and we can solve properly.

Also those who don't cooperate will be wallposted at. Long, rambling, sleep deprived wallposts with such poor formatting you'll run to the archives and stare wistfully at Monty's old games.

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But Mont wasn't a PR

If you aren't mafia, someone else might have picked up on this

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Originally Posted by Syn

wisdom is a wolf imo if the team is exactly barto/wisdom/cape. don't think they would be this low energy otherwise. I could see it if both of their teammates were no-shows

villager who isn't super invested feels more of a fit

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I didn't really get that impression and they also said their activity is NAI since they had exams

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Originally Posted by ladd

@Visor how strongly do you feel about ender being a villager?

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i am feeling reasonably confident, enough to not go there today at least

Visor

Totally not Taffy - claimed pr
Syn - claimed pr

EnderWiggin - doesn't make sense to turbo team as a wolf

Jan - possibility of bussing inactive partner, but otherwise decent
Suibian - i can see a wolf with jan world where tehy bus inactive partner and ride cred, but otherwise, did not need to make the vote at eod to put barto in danger

ladd - voted barto, but also possibly likeliest busser? idk
Cape90 - haven't minded his posting so far tbh

Raskolnikov
Sleep
Wisdom

is what i am left with, basically.

Votal 2.1

Ender (2) - ladd (#311), Sleep (#358)
Rask (1) - Cape (#352)

https://media.tenor.com/dgQTk4ZIWioA...ust-a-dash.gif

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Originally Posted by Visor

EnderWiggin - doesn't make sense to turbo team as a wolf

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I am not sure if we speak the same language. The individual words sound familiar, but they just don't fit together like that in my head.

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Originally Posted by Jan

I am not sure if we speak the same language. The individual words sound familiar, but they just don't fit together like that in my head.

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or rather what does

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to turbo team

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mean? great alliteration, but I don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Jan

or rather what does



mean? great alliteration, but I don't get it.

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basically ender committing to saving barto at eod doesn't make a lot of sense

for one, if it fails it just kills him the next day (and people were village reading him)

or at least makes it hard for him to survive the day (and if he succeeds, low odds of barto livign the game and if he dies, ender always dies)

basically his end goal if voting to save barto is to give him one more day - but it also relies upon barto being able to talk his way out of dying

just feel like the safe option is to bus your partner there and think ender would know that

comes across as a move devoid of ulterior motives, basically