Cereal killer mafia

[Syn]

hello

[ladd]

part of why i thought monty was a villager overnight is specifically cause barto wagon looks pure and monty wagon looks like it has at least 2 wolves on it

if wagons were w/w, wolves would be bussing barto, not monty



anyway, i just wanna hear more from the PoE today but ender push on monty felt a RVS vote turned into a real push and reminded me of his push on syn that game where he was a wolf. this post:

Heya Monty.

Can I have some brief top town/top wolf reads from ya?

Just like... idk

First 3 names for either like Taffy did to pocket you.

felt like a classic post a wolf makes to the villager they ar epushing to make them think they still care to revalutate them


and this:

Ngl Visor hard-sussing me but not trying to actually build a wagon on me but also interacting with me to disagree with my Monty read is wolfy interesting.

is a pretty fun shroop of the wolfy kind IYAM

[Cape90]

Hey, so I am here, been feeling not the best just as a heads up

I have some notes that I made overnight though on where I am at.

[Cape90]

Fair warning I was really tired when making these reads and they may or may not actually reflect where I am at in the game like... however many posts from now I re-evaluate things, like I wanted to look at Syn again for instance cuz I wasn't following sus on him when the threadstate seemed to sus Syn a lot from what i recall.

#215 is a towny post on ladd from EnderWiggin

EnderWiggin has these sort of towny stream of thought posts #210

Kinda like Visor but not following the sus on EnderWiggin

Very sure Syn is town #164

#226

I hate literally everything Rask is saying and I don't know how to process that.

Wisdom is mega wolfy feeling just on how I have seen them treat Jan. Maybe also oppurtunistic on Montmorency

Montmorency being pushed for being Montmorency I see. I think they are maybe outed town for like this one comment on El Barto #247

There is something "mild" feeling about Jan and idk how to read it. Not with Wisdom is how i will read it for now LOL. But he is def town out of the 2 honestly, like I townread like... some of like the things i see

Sleep is the most obvious town I have read this game. Congratulations, especially if you are wolf!

ladd I would say is pretty towny. I saw ladd cast a kinda big net on potential suspects, but idk if that means anything esp day 1, El Barto dying d1 means threadstate was probably generally towny?

Suibian is very obvious town. I mean between this/ladd/jan/visor, wouldn't be surprised if 0 mafia in here.

Taffy feels more lazy then me and im typing this at night when i really shouldn't be... 1 in Taffy/Rask maybe?

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Sidenote: Please point me to posts that you want me to see/comment on for important post visibility, thanks

Also coming into today, I feel more like Jan is town

[Cape90]

I should have and meant to put asterisks around my Monty notes :p since he died. was too focused on hyperlinking some stuff that i kinda gave up on half way through

[Cape90]

My wolfrange is "Yes" if that helps.

I feel like this could be a scummy quote

Ngl Visor hard-sussing me but not trying to actually build a wagon on me but also interacting with me to disagree with my Monty read is wolfy interesting.

You are the same person that predicted Visor would die in the night aren't you?

Right I nearly forgot. But Taffy trying to bait people into scumreading them is actually towny I think.

This sounds like a towny thought to say, but I am unsure if it means anything for Taffy just because I have seen wolves do stuff like this (though I don't recall the context of this post, this isn't something I have noticed from Taffy, but I also checked them last before just crashing into bed).

Ladd feels mildly opportunistic in the way his reads have moved. I'm keeping this one in my back pocket but I'm also not gonna explain it because idk. I'm not calling this one a scumread so much as--

Actually yeah nm Ladd can be 4th on my list.

What do you mean it was supposed to only be 3 names??

Again, I do think this post is towny

Do you have the same feelings about ladd now? I mean you literally did say that ladd used a generic reason to push you and also said that the last time this happened ladd was wolf but also i dont think u voted ladd for any of this so...

Good luck getting as much effort about any of my other reads this phase.

My other sort of scumread rn is Jan.

Mostly cause (and this is going to sound self-centred I know), the following post:


It feels like the lame-duck style I see often used to shade people without directly attacking them.

I also don't know Jan that well so this is a wild hipshot of a read but I feel good about it.

Eh.

His Wisdom vote felt like it could've been trying to not vote a partner idk.

Feels a little silly now he's flipped green.

Well I have looked far and wide but there isn't a read on Wisdom in your ISO, but what is your Wisdom read? I am curious

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I still think EnderWiggin is town after looking again though, thought he popped in today kinda towny too with the Mont sus with justifications... after the fact that they don't matter anymore

[EnderWiggin]

is a pretty fun shroop of the wolfy kind IYAM

"Wolfy interesting" is a specific call out to Pizza's guide. =P

[Syn]

vote: Taffy

[EnderWiggin]

You are the same person that predicted Visor would die in the night aren't you?

Yes. That was before he sniped the wolf at eod chaos.

It went from "Sus visor" to reading at night and nodding and then "Ah, town visor."

[Syn]

Yes. That was before he sniped the wolf at eod chaos.

It went from "Sus visor" to reading at night and nodding and then "Ah, town visor."

I would not be so quick to lock-town someone who voted out a 1-post slot

[Cape90]

Hi, I don't really get why the stuff I quoted from Syn I thought was towny, so I will look more and see if I missed something.

hello

That's all ur pop in? IDK I thought interesting things like ladd's EnderWiggin vote happened this SOD. speaking of

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part of why i thought monty was a villager overnight is specifically cause barto wagon looks pure and monty wagon looks like it has at least 2 wolves on it

if wagons were w/w, wolves would be bussing barto, not monty



anyway, i just wanna hear more from the PoE today but ender push on monty felt a RVS vote turned into a real push and reminded me of his push on syn that game where he was a wolf. this post:



felt like a classic post a wolf makes to the villager they ar epushing to make them think they still care to revalutate them


and this:



is a pretty fun shroop of the wolfy kind IYAM

1. I mean I guess, but it is an outlier in EnderWiggin's ISO, it isn't the norm and I have asked plenty a question like that to someone I suspect who I feel underwhelmed by as town. In other words IDK if that is really AI.

2. That's funny, I mean I will bounce between those words when describing things, but I don't usually put them both together (you are aware of this too as you called it a SHROOP). I don't put stock into SHROOP reads at all though.

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Anyways back to Syn

that's not why I unvoted him tbh

Thought this was towny at first glance, but it is one of those things that could be said to not seem like you have an agenda.

Just because Taffy obviously phrased it that way (the person Syn is responding too (I wish this site wouldn't do this with it's quotes tbh)). But it makes it so that there is only 1 right answer that Syn can give as either alignment.

outed tbh

logic does not parse

Yeah I kinda agree with Syn, though in the context of Syn revoting Rask, I think it might be towny for Taffy. Like if Syn wasn't voting Rask at all there, I would think it was wolfy tbh.

Jan is town and is very cute also

(are you watching, sleep)

What's the significance of Sleep here?

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Anyways I don't feel as strongly that Syn is town anymore.

They have a focus on Sleep that I found questionable

Pop in today wasn't great.

But Syn's POV seemed to be around the same area I was at when I was looking at things this game.

[EnderWiggin]

I would not be so quick to lock-town someone who voted out a 1-post slot

Eh maybe but I'm not going there today

[EnderWiggin]

Well I have looked far and wide but there isn't a read on Wisdom in your ISO, but what is your Wisdom read? I am curious

Forgot to respond to this. I kind've don't have one. Wisdom felt like they were doing something and I don't have the best track record and I didn't understand Visor's sus on me let alone Wisdom so I just sorta ignored it in favour of the person I thought was sus.

[Cape90]

Wanted to look back at the slots I feel like I have barely looked at.

So Suibian... even though they did kinda vote on El Barto... anyways

Are you saying me tone reading you is dumb because your scum range is that wide? Like you're going hahahaha I will make you paranoid! It's totally fine just fine. I'm good at reevaluating.

This is either really towny or really wolfy and IDK which XD

I want to believe in Visor and give Monty a day.

I don't want to follow on ender though even though I should probably accept that he has more experience and my early tone read might be dumb and wrong, but I still like it right now.

I will follow onto wisdom. Their posts seem fine but I don't have an actual read there.

Suibian did say this... kinda generic, but also explains why they wouldn't go Monty there

Kind of like the subtle paranoia of Taffy expecting to be pushed but not being pushed. Makes the thinking I accepted a town read I shouldn't and ignored make more sense.

Sleep - I was kinda expecting your vote to end up on Monty based on your posting so your wisdom vote was a surprise. I didn't remember anything they posted, so I read through their iso to see if I should sheep you and they seem fine? How strong is your meta read there?

Another thing that I also read as either really towny or really wolfy.

Same. I was considering voting Monty but his more recent posts have me feeling like maybe I'm confused by him rather than I scum read him. Don't know.

I agree with this too. When Ladd asked me what I liked about the posts and went back I realized that it was mostly emojis and what I liked were a couple sentences that aren't really all that alignment indicative but I had a knee-jerk maybe I'm just confused by him reaction.

I don't really like this given the Monty flip, like they both very much bother me and Sleep looks good IMO bringing attention to this.

Indeed I do! Will you teach me?

And Ender's post that follows this one makes me feel like my earlier thoughts about Monty were on target and not just confusion. hrm

#203
I get pocket-y vibes here...

His 166 and 167 felt a bit more natural? Looking back there's not a huge reason why and scum could definitely feel a bit more natural as they settle in from early awkwardness, but I liked I liked the scary mind meld with a catch response to taffy and your read's posts, and I liked the bit about bracing himself for humiliatingly misreading ender or kage.

So, yeah not enough to go this guy is town, but enough for me to consider that I might just be confused by his earlier approach.

#166

#167

These posts are fine, I could see how one could townread the second thing, less so the first thing. Also all the things Suibian pointed out are from 167 and not 166 at all, just wanted to point that fact out.

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Yeah let's pretend the obvious town part never happened, though I see where I got that read. I kinda gutread their ISO as wolfy though just looking at it and seeing also how post length also kinda took a back seat (this was mentioning that they didn't like posting like that) (but they did anyways which is )

Don't like their Monty treatment really, if there is a busser, I think it's here more so then Visor

[Syn]

That's all ur pop in?

I don't play the game during the night so yeah

What's the significance of Sleep here?

Sleep said I was pocketing Jan

[Cape90]

Ladd and Ender because they're posting the way I'm used to them posting when town, and none of the things that usually tell me they're wolf are present

Wisdom for extensive mindmelding in her reactions to Jan's posts

Jan and Syn because they seem to be compulsively pushing on every bit of misyeet bait available

Suib because she completely ignored my slot after I gave her a cheap townread for something nobody should ever townread anyone for

The Visor line

1. to take a dig at him for what he said about me in his readslist
2. to show I've read it
3. to let him know I think it's weaksauce

I think ur town upon just kinda plain looking again but i do pose a question

You said later on in the game that you expected to be pushed by people that didn't know you

It's D1 and I'm playing with a bunch of people who have never played with me before, from experience my expectation is to get pushed.

All of you cannot be experts in reading awkward lowposters. And mostly I'm trying to push Visor for a read but well...

you have also confirmed this is what u meant so I can't really take it any other way

Sooooo if you are misyeet bait and you expect to be pushed for being that by Visor for instance, why are Jan and Syn wolfy for pushing on misyeet bait???

[Cape90]

I don't play the game during the night so yeah



Sleep said I was pocketing Jan

idk I just thought you might have at least had a comment on EnderWiggin/ladd since I at least found that interesting SOD, I don't come in with the expectation that you have read over night.

Didn't realize u were still around though when I posted and it had been like a half an hour so I had just assumed you were gonna leave for a while until u came back

[Syn]

idk I just thought you might have at least had a comment on EnderWiggin/ladd since I at least found that interesting SOD, I don't come in with the expectation that you have read over night.

Didn't realize u were still around though when I posted and it had been like a half an hour so I had just assumed you were gonna leave for a while until u came back

always watching babeeeeey

[Cape90]

Uh this is a post about Wisdom

Sorry to burst your reasonings but this week have been hecking busy, currently playing because I'm guarding an exam at work which is kind of chill, but yeah, I'm busy as a bee atm. It's NAI

I kinda wolfread this, but idk if those reasons are at all good.

Kinda vibing with this. I can't remember montmercy's meta but this makes both ladd look more v and monty look more w.

eh I don't like this post very much

<3 Vote me you coward!

Good thing you're voting me then!

So I saw other people townreading Taffy for this similar thing, but not townreading you for it

Opinions on that Wisdom?

I mean sure, in a vaccuum I get it, it's just that statistically wolves are way more prone to call me town early than town are (when I'm town at least), so I'm being cautious. ^^

And, I mean, you're right, so a point to you if you're town here!

idk how to feel about this

I'd say Rask is the closest I have to a town read because his approach to me is exactly what I expect v!Rask's approach to be. Problem is that he is aware, so it coooould be calculated.

So, no, I don't really have a town read that I strongly believe in.

Ender kinda vibes like I remember v!him to be?

I dunno, I want more heat in general from everyone at the moment.

i see a lot of townreads on Rask and I just remember looking at his posts and having a negative reaction to most of them LOL

I hereby proclaim that both Rask and Syn are town!
Reason: Gut instinct

Gut wolves
Jan
Syn

I hope you can steer me the right way if I'm wrong here friend!

Syn is more jokey than snarky which I tend to find wolfy from him
Jan is only gut, didn't vibe with how easy he called me town, but I haven't actually tried to read him properly in years (I think we've only played mashes) so I have no clue.

So the 1 slot Wisdom has been inconsistent on is Syn so I will keep that in mind.

IDK I have found Syn jokey as town before i think

[Cape90]

that's because i did! i got the notice i was replacing in, then procrastinated for a few hours, and by that time it was 1 AM but i didn't feel like leaving the thread with nothing before i went to sleep (no pun intended). call it self-conscious if you like, i knew if i just made an intro post and dipped i was probably going to catch shit for it and then i wind up getting into arguments with people and it completely kills my ability to actually get reads.

i feel that honestly :p

what are you seeing with syn that i'm not

tammy hates wolfing and everytime i've seen jan draw wolf in a mash he's phoned it in. obviously vastly different game environments but for someone who has been semi-retired for a long time he seemed eager to get into the thick of it in a way that is way more likely town

i kinda like this post though tbh

im not necessarily asking about worldviews but montys whole game basically has been built around criticizing rask and it feels like ur not actually trying to analyze what hes saying so much as you decided to call him scum on page 1 and then use any reason to justify it, i would expect a townie to try to reduce cognitive dissonance there but it looks like a very vague generic attack rather than anything based on his actual content

this seemed like a v/v thing with Sleep/Syn tbh (with how Syn responded to this point later on tbh) (and those are the townpoints I award Syn), but kinda looks better for Sleep

I don't get the unvote though a whole post later. Vibe thing?

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Sleep im still calling town

[Cape90]

Vote on Visor no longer valid I guess?

Monty, where is your head at?

Thoughts on Visor anyone?

generically wolfy questioning (more so the 2nd/3rd).

I agree with this read

Yeah, I also felt this when looking at Ender.

Rasko jumping into the fray and basically leaving rvs 1 seconds in should read good but ..

I have trouble agreeing with several takes tbh.


Let's start with this one. Wisdom doesn't really strike me as a player who will start the game as a wolf basically asking for heat.
Which is what the initial post does.

Maybe I am missing some inside joke between the two, but Rasko has not really joked and instead played an early aggression game.


Second take is this:

In reference to this:


And I am scratching my head because Montys post in both worlds is not serious.
Copy/pasta is shitposting and partners with cuth is shitposting because cuth is not in the game.

If this was a toan read or something like that I could accept it, but that reason makes so little sense to me.

This does outline my problems I had with Raskol's postings pretty well honestly.

what would that do for you?

???

ok I will actually provide you with something more (outside my ironclad read on Synchan):

there is a real disconnection between the content of that Monty post and the vote on me. Like if he felt the need to justify making me a wagon (third vote iirc).

Dumb read but that's actually why I posted what I posted. Lettuce see how it unfolds during toDay.

This post also bothered me, but i also recognize it was very early on in the day

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I am actually just more neutral now on Rask though, there just isn't enough there for me to feel strongly on

[Cape90]

Vote: Raskolnikov

Eh why not, I could see the tryhard accusations coming off of #35 I guess. It was an argument I have seen regarding w!Rask

Kinda expecting wolves this game to just kinda feel defeated for some reason just after day 1 tbh

[ladd]

"Wolfy interesting" is a specific call out to Pizza's guide. =P

Fair enuf

[Totally not Taffy]

Changed my mind Taffy is a wolf.

lol

outed tbh

You all really thought I'd end the day still parked on the RVS vote I made in my first post? You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Especially Ender.

ender or wisdom pls

dont kill monty or rask

a four way tie is acceptable

So we're not supposed to kill Monty or Raskolnikov, but a 4-way tie that includes both is fine? Explain yourself and make it good, I find a lot of your EoD/SoD posts incredibly lamist but I'm tired of misyeeting you.



Stay tuned for my second post where I tmi why Monty died.

[EnderWiggin]

You all really thought I'd end the day still parked on the RVS vote I made in my first post? You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Especially Ender.

My post there was a joke.

[Sleep]

sup

sorry for missing out on the deadline when i said i'd be here but uh good job with the vote i guess. always feels a bit lucky whenthe day 1 vote on someone who barely posted turns up mafia but i'll take it

[Totally not Taffy]

Part two bc multiquote sucks.

I'm JOAT, and I will be deciding the wagons today. Proof:

I am awake because I make bad choices.

In my first post I'm saying I wish I was VT (listen to the lyrics) because I'm afraid I'm going to whiff my night actions (which I did, because I docced wrong. Sorry Monty). This is the end of my second post:

This post is a Taffy hardclaim.

And then Monty's very next post is him fpsing:

You asked?

Allez, venez, Milord!
Vous asseoir à ma table
Il fait si froid, dehors
Ici c'est confortable
Laissez-vous faire, Milord
Et prenez bien vos aises
Vos peines sur mon cœur
Et vos pieds sur une cuvette laiteuse
Je vous connais, Milord
Vous n'm'avez jamais vue
Je n'suis qu'une louve du fourr(é)
Qu'une ombre de la rue

I thought it was bloody obvious what with his replying to my song with a song, but apparently not.

So one of today's wagons is going to be Syn for trying to create an extra counterwagon to a wolf voting with people he was scumreading for someone he'd previously unvoted. I also hate the dismissive not-quite-responses I'm getting from him.

The others I'm still choosing from (Wisdom Visor Ender). Wisdom because at EoD I actually felt like there was a wolf in danger before Barto became a wagon. But I'm hoping my initial read was correct and that she'll come out today and post herself clear.

Visor because if Wisdom is town he has fantastic wolf equity pushing her and when that not quite works bussing a dud wolfbuddy.

Ender gets another post because I need more quotes.

[Sleep]

idk i just dont think monty would play that eod as w/w like that

moot point anyway

jan, is tammy a busser? only recall playing turbos really with her and no memory lol

my memory of tammy as mafia was mostly her rolling over and dying but this was over a decade ago now (i will never stop trolling her about this)

don't think she'd be the type to bus but hard to defend a person who barely posted anything. i have played with her more recently than anyone here and think she's just town though



if someone bussed i'm not gonna be able to find them today and every time i try to do something like that it ends up being a throw


vote: ender

sheeping ladd tbh

[Sleep]

I'm JOAT, and I will be deciding the wagons today. Proof:

is there a reason you felt the need to claim? not doubting it but just, like, why

[Sleep]

do not have time to digest multiple wallposts tonite, i was told this would be a chill game! back at it tomorrow i guess