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On another note; why on earth shouldn't people be allowed to divorce(or annul) a marriage for whatever reason they may please?
What gives us(as in; the society) the right to decide which reason are valid and which are not, what gives us the right to force 2 people to live together?
http://www.sullivan-county.com/wcva/...gang_rapes.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Viking
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/2102...ic-hate-speech (Not about hate rapes, but gives an interesting background on the mindset)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...pe-421803.html
A few isolated cases here and there, sure thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Come off it old chum surely the tribal custom would have been to kill the bride then maim the familly then apply to the elders for financial retribution for the expense of the wedding and the "humiliation" their son sufered:yes:Quote:
It all doesn't make sense, old chum, until you realise that she is defending tribal custom; that she is, like our friend here said, throwing a bone to North African migrants who are stuck in the old ways.
Instead like a good "westernised" family they called in the lawyers and went to the district court all legal like:2thumbsup:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles...7-2AD9C7BED66BQuote:
Originally Posted by Viking
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles...7-2AD9C7BED66B
http://patdollard.com/2007/04/13/epi...blame-provoca/
http://majorityrights.com/index.php/...ave_in_sweden/
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1937
http://errantmind.wordpress.com/2007...raping-europe/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatc...ves/005412.php
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-.../1372959/posts
http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/07...vering-up.html
http://www.truthandgrace.com/muslimhateinNorway.htm (mainly paragraph eight, though the whole article is relevant)
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/a...or-sex-attacks
Coming from you, that's as good as an admission that maybe Frags and me and others aren't entirely bolloxed tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman
That's quite possible the funniest piece of complete nonsense I have ever read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Thanks!
That is true, yes definatily. But we aren't angry Tribesman, just a little dissapointed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adrian II
hehe
I take it you read the relevant paragraph and links?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Which? The forged quotes, the outright lies, the undocumented claims, the things taken out of context or the things the author has misunderstood completely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
EMFM, what you need is quality of links, not quantity. All you've really managed to establish is that there are a lot of nutters on the internet, and I think we were all already aware of that.
Anything from a credible source? (Hint: Some far-right loony's blog doesn't count as a credible source)
The Brussels Journal is a perfectly fine source, in my opinion. The freerepublic.com link is also quite good. I also fail to see a problem with FrontPage Magazine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Bloody Infantry
A site being conservative does not make it unreliable.
All of those sources are about as biased as a source could possible be. Why can you not provide a primary source, or source that's more well known, like BBC? I'll answer: it's because all of this is original research and doubtful; it doesn't take anything to host such websites, anyone can.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
As for over-representation for immigrants; that doesn't surprise me, any minority within a country will do.
Furthermore, by the over-representation logic; if one find that people with little education are also over-represented, then we should kick them all out of the country, since the likelyhood of one of them committing rape it is greater than for an average person. And probably you'll find a link between alcohol and rapes, that those who drink alcohol are more likely to commit rape, such that all non-teetotals should be kicked out of the country. It's all in the statistics anyway.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1754 <-Like that one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
A good tip on how to ruin your credibility: start your article with an outright lie. Always a winner.Quote:
The number of rapes in the Norwegian capital Oslo is six times as high as in New York City.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
There's a problem with original research? Anyhow, I've listed three sites from there that I believe are reliable enough. Of course they're biased - get used to the media.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Thank you. ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
So in your opinion, people making up numbers are "reliable enough"....? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Regarding the proportion of the rapes, is this good enough for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...icle190268.ece
It gets even better there: 111 rapes. Multiply that with 36, and you get just a little more than New York.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
I'm still waiting to hear whether you think people making up numbers are reliable, or that you show me where it says the number of rapes are 6 times higher per capita in oslo than new york.
The proportion committed by immigrants is the important part, not the amount of rapes that there are in New York. The proportion committed by immigrants is high and the number of rapes are rising.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
No, your "reliable source" stated that the number of rapes were 6 times higher in oslo than in new york.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Bah. 72 rapes committed from a population of some 50.000 immigrants. Why on earth should we let the actions of 72 idiots affect the situation of the 49.928 other immigrants?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Which is irrelevant to my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Because, proportionally, these people are raping more than non-immigrants, meaning some sort of reform or change is needed. Rape charges are increasing fairly dramatically, and not all cases make it to prosecution, and not every rape has charges filed.Quote:
Bah. 72 rapes committed from a population of some 50.000 immigrants. Why on earth should we let the actions of 72 idiots affect the situation of the 49.928 other immigrants?
[QUOTE=Evil_Maniac From Mars;1943285]Which is irrelevant to my point.
It's pretty relevant to your point that the blog you pointed to is a reliable source.
Bah. As I said, 72 rapes. How on earth can you justify reforms for 50.000 innocent people based on 72 dolts? That's like saying that Norway should've made some huge reforms for our population in 1945 because a few traitors joined the germans when they invaded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
As they say, there are 2 kinds of lies; small lies, and statistics. Put the numbers in percentage, and the numbers are dramatic. Look at the actual headcount, and the increase is minimal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
And just how do you know that the increase isn't caused simply by more people reporting rapes as opposed to more rapes occurring? And how do you know that immigrants are not over-represented because they get reported more often than non-immigrants?Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
After careful consideration, I've decided to change my answer from 'Yes, I'm a virgin' to 'No . . . no, I'm not.' ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
Pics soon to follow*
Ajax
*of the wedding, you sickos!
The point is that most rapes are committed by a population that makes up a small percentage of the population.Quote:
Bah. As I said, 72 rapes. How on earth can you justify reforms for 50.000 innocent people based on 72 dolts?
The increase is proportionally dramatic. Good enough for you?Quote:
Put the numbers in percentage, and the numbers are dramatic. Look at the actual headcount, and the increase is minimal.
You don't, but you're just speculating, the article uses data.Quote:
And just how do you know that the increase isn't caused simply by more people reporting rapes as opposed to more rapes occurring? And how do you know that immigrants are not over-represented because they get reported more often than non-immigrants?
And neither do you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars
Well, at least I have the article to back me up. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
Can we please, please stop with the racist, xenophobic, and utterly laughable blogs? All they're doing is make my brains rot. I much prefer the actual subject of the topic, namely the curious (and in my opinion, wrongful) application of modern Western judicial systems in the defense of the practices of archaic tribal traditions, which form a major part in the everyday lives of many north-African (muslim) immigrants.
Well, we already have, see. We're on the second-largest newspaper in Norway now, to my knowledge. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoffrey S
well Mars you really are proving Vikings point .
Leaving aside the absolute fruitcake nature of some of those sites , lets just look
Viking wrote....You respond with a pile of links :yes:Quote:
A few isolated cases here and there, sure thing.
OK so far ?
No then , of that pile of links how many how many are using exactly the same incident/news report/survey for their whole gamut ?
Now if as is the case they are all linking to the same thing then that is a big reporting of isolated cases not as you wish to portray a big incidence of cases .
BTW......Jihadwtch is part of frontpage , the US government describes that as a racist hate site.... Do you see the problem there ?:idea2:Quote:
I also fail to see a problem with FrontPage Magazine.
Not at all , you are bolloxed until either you or Frag can show that the post before that was in any way wrong .Quote:
Coming from you, that's as good as an admission that maybe Frags and me and others aren't entirely bolloxed tonight.
We're on the second largest newspaper of Norway, which shows nothing more shocking than that of the roughly 100.000 non-western immigrants, less than eighty commit rape per year. Looks like you're on something else entirely... ~;p