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Well you did the dirty work for the mafia by getting the lynch onto me. I was correct in my suspicions of sprig and yet you did not listen to me. It was a shame we did not have enough people, since their might have been a chance for the town to get onto the mafia, but we did not have a chance. two killers for this small group is too many.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Townie MVP: Classical_heroQuote:
Originally Posted by classical_hero
I admit, I screwed this one up.
Yeah, I've never been very good it making strong cases against others. But making a case out of little while knowing it is wrong is even harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
As you probably know, roughly 50% of the actual cases I toss at mafia suspects while town are entirely contrived. I take a little bit of actual suspicious evidence and I combine it with other things which look suspicious but don't really conclude one way or another. I combine that with the usual emotional trickery and that usually sells it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
Even as townie you have to embellish and sell your case, otherwise it won't be popular. So one could say I do exactly what I do as townie when I am mafia... which is try to convince people based on a little bit of truth and a little bit of opinion and a lot of selling. That's why it is hard to tell when I am mafia or not (woe be upon me).
It always has to make sense as an accusation, though; if for example the case was I'm defending Sprig, then it has to hold up in the most dire example, which was his near-death experience. I didn't bat an eye. That's one of the reasons your case smelled wrong to me.
It was wrong enough to make me immediately suspect you; that's the kind of thing you have to avoid. If it is a lie you tell, you want to try to make it consistent for the entire game, no matter what it is. If at one point during the game it rings inconsistent, and someone remembers why, then you generally can get called out on it.
But Sprig's gambit fooled me. I don't like to take that kind of risk when I am mafia, and that's why it never registered. I started trying to look at the game from a Sprig is innocent viewpoint, and that's a bad foundation to work from.
Sprig let me implode, and that's a good strategy when mafia against me; get past my senses and then let me toss myself off a cliff.
I wanted to vote Joooray by then, too, but my :daisy: role hampered me. If I was right, but couldn't push it through in time, my chances of being killed and thus ending the game would have gone way up. I can't believe that one extraneous "a" is the reason I was killed. Argh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
You're absolutely right, though. And even more so from my perspective. I really did get a bit of BS whiff from your posts (up until your obvious frustration over CH, which changed my mind). But that's a reason peculiar to me, and I knew my own alignment. CH's vote was also understandable. But Joooray's was not. Although he did very well with his reasoning otherwise (even about Sprig), that vote was pure opportunism.
Regardless, a very strong game from Sprig and Joooray.
I disagree; we (collectively) just got outplayed. It happens. Kudos for calling out Sprig.Quote:
Originally Posted by classical_hero
Good, then the obviousness of Joooray's guilt wasn't just my imagination; and I felt by the end it should have been clear I was being genuine to those who were paying close attention. I'm glad you made the right judgment there. You get points for noticing I wasn't scum in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
I am having trouble telling classical as townie from classical as mafia. Game was too short and his posts were too few to get an accurate reading.
Yeah, but I didn't save him there either, not even in private with my ability to add one vote. Isn't saving someone from the lynch the most obvious way of showing a connection. That's why your argument of not having saved Sprig at that point didn't stick with me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Anyway, I have to put a some major work into my ability to play when I'm mafia. Here I apparently got lucky, but the Star Wars game over at the TWC was a disaster.
So Renata and ATPG, if we work together, we can do much damage against those who are mafia.
Heh. Unless I'm mafia, mwahahaha.
When Renata is mafia, I can accuse her all day long and be 100% right (as I have several times in the past) and people don't listen to me and she wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renata
She is the Teflon Don, and totally immune to mycharmspowers.
Renata has to teach me some of that, I become a nervous wreck as soon as pizza puts his attention towards me, which ultimately gets me lynched. :laugh4:
Meh, you're nearly as elusive as she is. I'll get you someday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
Yeah, I'm elusive as in, I remain unnoticed to you for longer than others maybe. But as soon as you focus your attention on me it's very bad news. Look at the Star Wars game over at TWC. Sure it was Rebel Jeb that got me lynched in the end, but for me the downfall started when you started to accuse me for flinching during the night. Not sure if that was part of why Rebel Jeb blocked me, but it most certainly made me look might suspicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I had actually forgotten about that, but yeah I baited you and you came out of hiding and I accused you of flinching, and called for a bounty hunter to take you out. When that didn't happen you were lynched the next day I think. I don't remember, though, that was when I was busy starting up this game and I was kind of phoning it in over there. I got more active at the end though, and that turned out.... okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray
Joooray - you havn't answered my pm... :(
Sorry, I was planning to and now I did. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprig
don't worry - i know it is tough fighting all those sith !!! nice battle btw :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Joooray