[SS 6.4] Clash of Gods! OOC - winners Silver Shield, LooseCannon1 and Mithridate

@SilverShield you're up, pm sent too so you get your email :)

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thats my very first naval blockade ever. JFK style. always been a fan of JFK he was a real :daisy: daddy he even had M Monroe man he was a real :daisy: dog

venice up
http://depositfiles.com/files/r5v35cbkw

wow @SilverShield, if I didn't know better I'd say you like forts. At least I get the satisfaction of knowing you are spending 2-3k on them /turn. In any case, brilliant move with that blockade.

Still, some good news for us as well. The army attacking Belgrade was beaten off, and the Moors have been destroyed.

Well played @LooseCannon1, you really help out quite a long time considering you had 4 factions going after you.

anyway, @Mithridate
seljuks up!
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Mithridate told me about a problem with the jihads. only two cities in spain are even eligible so thats a problem for us. is there any way that all the cities in the north are up too? im clueless but if i had Mith right there is a way. he probably is more aware of the problem and chimes in. just had it brought up here now so anyone knows whats up

aw man not again wt.:daisy. how that man. thats just. i knew about the power of balista gave me some good victories too for sure but never thought they even had enough ammo for all that infantry. man really. thats just bad. those balista :diasy: im clueless. man thats one of those wt went wrong here situations. wt went wrong there. thats those situations. daisy those. aw whatever but thats why i love football and basketball and whatever any sports. way less of those fuzy situations there

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wow @SilverShield, if I didn't know better I'd say you like forts. At least I get the satisfaction of knowing you are spending 2-3k on them /turn. In any case, brilliant move with that blockade.

Still, some good news for us as well. The army attacking Belgrade was beaten off, and the Moors have been destroyed.

Well played @LooseCannon1, you really help out quite a long time considering you had 4 factions going after you.

anyway, @Mithridate
seljuks up!
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...d=205&id=10022

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aw man not again wt.:daisy. how that man. thats just. i knew about the power of balista gave me some good victories too for sure but never thought they even had enough ammo for all that infantry. man really. thats just bad. those balista :diasy: im clueless. man thats one of those wt went wrong here situations. wt went wrong there. thats those situations. daisy those. aw whatever but thats why i love football and basketball and whatever any sports. way less of those fuzy situations there

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It wasn't just the ballista... :)

As to the Jihad's, I don't think any northern targets are on the list of possible targets, so they will never be available. I'm not sure how we can deal with that though as it does seem rather unfair. It is possible that venice is a possibility, but I wouldn't count on it.

Maybe you could mod whatever file the targets are listed in. Depends of course whether that file is read just once at the start of the campaign or whether it can be changed mid-way through

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Maybe you could mod whatever file the targets are listed in. Depends of course whether that file is read just once at the start of the campaign or whether it can be changed mid-way through

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I wish I could remember which file it is, but I have a feeling it is one that is read only at the start... :(

Will play my turn when i wake up

We cant call any Jihad unless you mod the targets or change the rules...
Btw all targets are neighbors in about the same unimportant area -.-'

All the rest of the targets are held by the crusader states!
If you dont mod the targets then at least allow us to Jihad a non-target region

I thought we already agreed you don't have to jihad a target? The last jihad/crusade weren't target settlements. You guys had toledo I believe and we crusaded against that small town in southwest iberia.

Although I think the crusader states would be a great place to jihad :P

Sorry it took so long

Playing my turn now and calling Jihad on non-target city, will make the best of it
Only possible target, IBERIA HERE I COME :D

France up @slysnake

England! @Myth

http://www.sendspace.com/file/pd85re

The Jihad is a more defensive mechanic. It's meant for you to reclaim the Catholic's target cities, while crusades are meant to help Catholics get their targets.

Turn 4 of holding Cordoba +5 points

Total Catholic points 30/100

Leon-Castile up. @Thanatos Eclipse

Crusaders @SilverShield

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i got this up later today

last shot at the city of venice. its a suicide mission with the balista and the catapult inside the city and if that was an regular game without the shot clock down against us that action was just total nonsense but whatever its game over for us anyway if we dont score now so its worth a shot. and those are brave crusaders they ready to die they ready to sacrifice. die in dignity my friends. those brave soldiers. but even if they down its way less bad than that terrain gaffe when i went for the city first. if it wasnt for that the game took a whole nother direction. but whatever u win one u lose one .tho my general got the holy lance with him so what about some lil miracle there

venice up

NB thats the new file. use this on pls in case u dont read ur mails before downloading

http://depositfiles.com/files/g1k8vp7eh

well, the army attacking venice was indeed destroyed by its brave defenders,

As to your men's bravery and the supposed Holy Lance. The Lance was clearly a fake, as god chose to have your general struck directly by a enormous flaming rock XD

After that, your men's confidence seemed to fail rather dramatically.

(seriously, I think I had a lot of luck on my side, after the lucky catapult hit, all your troops started running whenever my cavalry so much as got near them, it was very unusual.)

Still, Ancona is sure to fall as my men couldn't make it there to save their friends. Still, it is sure to be reclaimed soon. :)
I must say, every turn is feeling like a desperate struggle to hold on Silver. You really are doing an amazing job.

Also, I see those three jihad armies in the balkans @Mithridate. :) remember that now makes them ineligible to fight any of my forces there.

Seljuks up!
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France

England! @Myth

http://www.sendspace.com/file/94p6qd

man too bad had some faith there for a miracle but nothing so thats about it. that rock thing tho kinda made me laugh man that holy lance did nothing and im dead serious that kid really had the holy lance with him in his inventory where the duke of or king of and all those governor emblems are but whatever that thing was worth nothing the first rock and kid went down straight come on man aw whatever last instance tho i sent my men straight into death thats for sure that was just bad if thad was ordinary game i d never done that but that whole score thing u know but whatever its over basically its just some rearguard action from now on and thats about it but whatever to the last bullet Davy Crockett man

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well, the army attacking venice was indeed destroyed by its brave defenders,

As to your men's bravery and the supposed Holy Lance. The Lance was clearly a fake, as god chose to have your general struck directly by a enormous flaming rock XD

After that, your men's confidence seemed to fail rather dramatically.

(seriously, I think I had a lot of luck on my side, after the lucky catapult hit, all your troops started running whenever my cavalry so much as got near them, it was very unusual.)

Still, Ancona is sure to fall as my men couldn't make it there to save their friends. Still, it is sure to be reclaimed soon. :)
I must say, every turn is feeling like a desperate struggle to hold on Silver. You really are doing an amazing job.

Also, I see those three jihad armies in the balkans @Mithridate. :) remember that now makes them ineligible to fight any of my forces there.

Seljuks up!
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Leon up. @Thanatos Eclipse

I'm learning the good and bad things from this fist game and already I have an idea for a sequel that will keep the team battles and target cities which make this game interesting but will balance out the factions more and remove crusades/jihads as a mechanic (but still there might be some benefits added for simulating them).

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man my poor crusaders they just got slaughtered. had them off to death straight on purpose almost. shame

venice up
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Clever try silver, but I found it :)
I thought to look because of what you said about that general earlier.

anyway, Seljuks up!
@Mithridate
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France

@slysnake

England! @Myth

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hlae7k

Someone will have to sub me.

I'm taking it. :)

@Thanatos Eclipse
leon up!
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whats up here 4 days already. anyone?

Sorry, forgot about this one, I'll do it in just a sec

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bump..

venice up
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whats ur problem thats 2 days and 2 hours. so what. the spanish turn was up 4 days. if u feel like bumping do it after 3 days been passed not after 2 days and 2 hours

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bump..

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whats ur problem thats 2 days and 2 hours. so what. the spanish turn was up 4 days. if u feel like bumping do it after 3 days been passed not after 2 days and 2 hours

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I think sly was just trying to be helpful - he bumps all the threads when the deadlines are passed, it's not personal to you

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I think sly was just trying to be helpful - he bumps all the threads when the deadlines are passed, it's not personal to you

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I always bump because I use 'browsing the .org' as an excuse for putting off doing work as long as possible :D

(But then it does also help if games have a fast-pace to them!)

Curse your catapult Silver!
Anyway, seljuks up!
@Mithridate https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...d=205&id=10068

@Myth can sub me if I don't play my next turn (if I miss the 48 hour deadline, assume I have no wifi and need to be subbed) - he probably has a good ideas as what to do :)

@Mithridate Bump

@slysnake no problem!

Ty for the bump, this was being overlooked

playing as soon as i find time, prolly tonight

France @slysnake

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France @slysnake

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Considering I have an hour before my plane boards, I think I will play my turn now!! :)

Almost missed my flight playing this turn, so never got a chance to upload it at the airport. Here it is now! @Myth

http://www.sendspace.com/file/srjpmp

Turn 7 for the Catholics who are holding Cordoba (accumulated 15 points since last update which was at turn 4 of holding the city) + 15 points
Total Catholic points - 45/100

Warning: Cordoba has passed the 90% Catholic mark and will give additional points to the team at 100%


Leon up. @Thanatos Eclipse

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venice
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gah, forgot about this, will try to get it done ASAP

Seljuks up! @Mithridate
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/local...d=205&id=10103

However, I have discovered a problem in the game @Myth
I am unable to build ports. My settlements all along the north african coast have no port, and building one is not an option in the construction browser. This is severely limiting my ability to build up a navy of any significance. The only settlement where i have any sort of naval building as an option is venice where i can build a merchants warf or whatever it is called.

France

@slysnake

@Nightbringer I'll check it out.

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France

@slysnake

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EDIT: Was ill earlier in the week and fell asleep at the computer - computer did an auto-shutdown so I didn't remember I was meant to upload a save when I woke up lol..

Here it is @Myth, England up! http://www.sendspace.com/file/j5t894

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However, I have discovered a problem in the game @Myth
I am unable to build ports. My settlements all along the north african coast have no port, and building one is not an option in the construction browser. This is severely limiting my ability to build up a navy of any significance. The only settlement where i have any sort of naval building as an option is venice where i can build a merchants warf or whatever it is called.

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I had a similar problem in a KGCM hotseat where as Byzantium I couldn't build anything above a certain level. Only noticed the problem when my shipwright never completed construction. It froze halfway. The only thing that solved it was after playing another hotseat as Byzantium and when it went past the turn when it started the building browser corrected itself. I was in other hotseats at the time with other factions and we tried turning the faction AI for a turn but nothing else helped. You might want to try a singleplayer game playing past the turn you first noticed the problem to see if that works.

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EDIT: Was ill earlier in the week and fell asleep at the computer - computer did an auto-shutdown so I didn't remember I was meant to upload a save when I woke up lol..

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Worst excuse I've ever heard :laugh4:

"My dog ate my hotseat turn"

Can't play it. One of my three Catholic allies will need to sub me.

whats up anyone doing this or what

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whats up anyone doing this or what

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@Myth is back I think.. If's he can't play it be tonight I'll play it if I can find some time ^^ @Nightbringer are you free to play it?

I could do it tomorrow night if myth hasn't by then.

Leon up. @Thanatos Eclipse

Turn 8 for the Catholics who are holding Cordoba + 5 points
Total Catholic points - 50/100

@Nightbringer I checked your previous save out. It seems to me that your settlements lack the necessary population levels to get the docks? You need Large Town level or equivalent minimum, if I read the building browser correctly.\

To the Muslim team: please let me know when you capture a target city so that I can verify and start counting.

No, I'm not talking about docks. I'm talking about ports. The basic building that can be built in anything above a village. @Myth

I'll get this done tomorrow, three finals in one day has worn me out too much tonight :/

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No, I'm not talking about docks. I'm talking about ports. The basic building that can be built in anything above a village. @Myth

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You sure about that in SS? I have to double check the building requirements.

I took a look and I guess they require a large town to build. Been a while since I played early ss 6.4 I guess. And I'm pretty sure that town is enough in all other mods I've played.

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man what a sausage fest there in italy french english spanish venetian. thats 8 armies for sure

venice up
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man what a sausage fest there in italy french english spanish venetian. thats 8 armies for sure

venice up
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Sausage fest? But the French are here!

Will play the turn later tonight :)

nice one made me laugh

its old but anyway - legendary french field sign in ww2 - white cross on white ground

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Sausage fest? But the French are here!

Will play the turn later tonight :)

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Lol :laugh4:

Silver, did you by chance destroy any armies this turn?

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Lol :laugh4:

Silver, did you by chance destroy any armies this turn?

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Last time I checked, Silver had by far enough stacks, near or approaching Italy, to do some serious damage to our own stacks there... :no:

When my turn came, I saw that the HRE decided to attack Venice, so I besieged them with my best stack and protected the siege with a fort. Hopefully the CS was far away enough to not be able to reach me.

Hey, I was starting my turn and, @Mithridate, I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to be attacking HRE settlements with that jihading stack. Is that correct @Myth?

Just the target city for the Jihad or an actual target city from the Muslim list. Also, any armies that might prevent or endanger either siege. Going on a landgrab along the way is not allowed, else we can just call one on Baghdad and eat the CS Egyptian lands and the Levante all in one Crusade.

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Just the target city for the Jihad or an actual target city from the Muslim list. Also, any armies that might prevent or endanger either siege. Going on a landgrab along the way is not allowed, else we can just call one on Baghdad and eat the CS Egyptian lands and the Levante all in one Crusade.

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Well, that city isn't a target, and it looks like a couple other regions have been captured as well... :/

I'm guessing it is just an oversight, but I would like to work this out before playing my turn as it will likely impact my moves.

alright guys i had this crusade thing wrong too i also took settlements with the kwarz on the road but Myth is right this way this thing is just too strong of a vehicle. i think its best if i ll abandon the cities i took and have them gone rebel

alright its 4 settlements i took over the last 3 rounds i ll abandon them next round. had the whole crusade thing wrong. was the first time i used the crusade jihad thing

yea i took out one army and yea ironically it was a french army. tho what made me laugh was my disgust over that sausage fest in italy and NBs argument that the french are there - so less of a sausage fest altogether coz french are pussies so no sausage and thus less of a sausage fest. at least i guess thats what he meant but anyway i had a laugh


and yea that fort there blocking the path towards that city u are besieging somewhat saved that armys ass. tho u guys outnumber me by far. thats no secret. even with that one french army gone there still is 7 or 8 of urs that i counted. my forces are pretty limited but if i get a good shot alright i ll for sure take it like with this french army

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Lol :laugh4:

Silver, did you by chance destroy any armies this turn?

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I'm alright with the settlements just being abandoned.

As to the french comment, yes, that is what I meant. (I honestly have nothing against the French though, and actually found them quite kind and hospitable during my visits to their fine country.) But, you know... :)

yea no offence to the actual french people just an old running joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjOE09TJXUo

still fun tho





btw u still up in wotk

ive been away from this forum a lot, reading up on stuff now

I have captured regions on the path indeed. Ive marched in an arch, intent on hamburg mostly.

regarding Jihads, jihading armies have not been used to capture non-target settlements
Correction: The Cuman castle North of Byzantion was taken by a jihading army i think -.-'
For that i should be punished, but by/with what? It was off the course i used for most other forces, and it ended where i took the castle. 8 units i think, all of crapquality^^




Question: from way earlier in the thread, cant find atm. But did you guys not use a Crusade on the moors taking other regions?
Or am i simply mistaken? :P

I wasn't in the crusade, but I believe it was only used on Cordoba, and some of the armies guarding the bridge to it, a very direct obstacle. As with Silver, I understand it is just a mistake and think simply having the cities rebel, or gifting them to their original owner, is probably the best thing to do. I don't have any hard feeling over it, I had to check myself to see if this was legal. :)
Of course, it is ultimately Myth's decision.

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I wasn't in the crusade, but I believe it was only used on Cordoba, and some of the armies guarding the bridge to it, a very direct obstacle. As with Silver, I understand it is just a mistake and think simply having the cities rebel, or gifting them to their original owner, is probably the best thing to do. I don't have any hard feeling over it, I had to check myself to see if this was legal. :)
Of course, it is ultimately Myth's decision.

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Wrong. wrong, wrong. The first crusade was called on Silves but the first attacks were directed at Murcia which is in the totally opposite direction for the Spanish armies to march to from Toledo. Since this was allowed even though I protested it is fair for Mithridate to attach any cities/armies along the way. Any other decision is simply hypocritical. Also there were at least 4 stacks of Spanish origin under crusade flags during the course of the war. As one "Muslim" faction can join neither jihad or Crusade this put our side at a total disadvantage.

I joined the crusade for MP only and just joined the siege of the Crusade's actual target. I was not aware that armies that were no obstacle to the crusading forces were attacked, seriously. I say, for the purpose of peace, have things proceed as they are and from now on we are clear on the rules.

oh, ok, I guess I had it wrong. In that case, shall we just say no additional capturing of cities? Is it all fair game? Are both silver and mithri keeping their conquests? Is mithri allowed to continue taking HRE territory?