Next Total War game to be revealed at E3, will NOT focus on gunpowder era(s)

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The Creative Assembly sprung a significant pre-E3 leak today. From one source, EuroGamer was told of the studio's plans to create a 2012 Olympics title, and then, hours later, we received an email revealing that a new Total War title is to be announced at E3.

Though in possession of full details, our lives wouldn't be worth living if we divulged what we know, but let's just say that the new PC-only game eschews the gunpowder weaponry of recent Total War titles and gets back to basics. And if you need further reassurance of this information's veracity, check out this well-timed tweet from the developers.

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In addition, we have a couple of tweets from CA:

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"Do you like my custom tissue dispenser?"



The second tweet in particular would appear to be a fairly large hint.... :sweatdrop:

I hope that the new title isn't Sparta: Total War!

Judging from the helm...Rome 2 perhaps? Or was that a joke? Anyway, I'm glad they are working on something more h2h based versus gunpowder. Naval tactics if my assumption is correct would be interesting. Have to wait longer from STW2 I guess. Still happy though.

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

I hope that the new title isn't Sparta: Total War!

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I doubt that, if for no other reason than that it would be too close in name to their console title Spartan Total Warrior. Something more like Greece Total War or perhaps Hellas Total War -- and that's only if they're focusing on ancient Greece. If CA is making a game covering a larger region/era, then it could be named just about anything.

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Originally Posted by A Nerd

Judging from the helm...Rome 2 perhaps? Or was that a joke?

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I'm not sure if the helmet is specifically Spartan, but it's at least Greek for sure. And I'm reasonably certain the helmet is not a joke, but a (fairly large) clue.

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Originally Posted by A Nerd

Anyway, I'm glad they are working on something more h2h based versus gunpowder. Naval tactics if my assumption is correct would be interesting.

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Ditto that. Gunpowder-era combat just doesn't fit the Total War franchise very well IMO, so it's good to see CA returning to their "roots", so to speak.

And yes, the naval combat would certainly be different, since physical attacks (i.e., ramming and boarding) were the most common tactics used back then....which again, would play to the series' strength regarding melee fighting.

If its Rome, I will DO ANYTHING I CAN to own it and i will be so happy it won't be funny.

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If its Rome, I will DO ANYTHING I CAN to own it and i will be so happy it won't be funny.

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Oh, I think you jumping around like a child at Christmas time would be quite funny indeed!

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Something more like Greece Total War or perhaps Hellas Total War

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Perhaps even better than Rome! I would love a full Spartan roster! Athens might be interesting too! I know little about Greek history however!

What would I give for a new Shogun game...
Although, nothing will bring back the interesting and unpredictable mapboard experiences of STW and MTW. Where you could fight for a single province for 20 turns, and continue breathing after it was over...

i am cautiously optimistic

I sense a comeback.

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EB3, anyone?

Nubia: TotalWar, 7500 B.C. - 1400 A.D.

Forest, Desert, Jungle... Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Europeans

If it's Rome2, i'm gonna wet myself :O

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Originally Posted by hoetje

If it's Rome2, i'm gonna wet myself :O

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That is what I am hoping for too. :P Even if it is though, I am not gonna be buying it until it is confirmed that there are modding tools.

Have you guys seen the hour glass at www.totalwar.com ? It goes back to 1777 now, yesterday it was 1824, before that it was 1908. I believe the hour glass will drop each day until it reaches the date the game is built around, probably at the same time the official announcement is made at E3 :D

So thats like 60 years say, each day. 19 days until e3 starts... 637 AD.

If we say 80 years each day its still around 200 AD.

GO FASTER I WANT ROME DAMNIT

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So thats like 60 years say, each day. 19 days until e3 starts... 637 AD.

If we say 80 years each day its still around 200 AD.

GO FASTER I WANT ROME DAMNIT

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Your maath confuses me. Though I must agree, I too want Rome sooner than later! Greece would be nice, but based on the sizes of the maps since MTW, Greece might be somewhat resticted. Consider a map of greece the size of maps in newer TWs, cool, huh? Though I don't know if enough cities existed in ancient greece to make it feasable. But I digress. Perhaps the map will include ancient Greece and it's enemies/allies?? Who knows. I'd quote a battle cry to express my enthusiams that is period to the upcoming TW, but I am unfamiliar with such jargons. Anyway, until the counter thingie mentioned is clarified, I guess we will have to be contented with the mystery of fuzzy math! :)

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Originally Posted by hoetje

Have you guys seen the hour glass at www.totalwar.com ? It goes back to 1777 now, yesterday it was 1824, before that it was 1908. I believe the hour glass will drop each day until it reaches the date the game is built around, probably at the same time the official announcement is made at E3 :D

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Alright, so it is 1769 now. Let's say 9 years in 16 hours, or, how about we simplify that to 1/2 year per hour (but keep in mind that this is a low estimate). E3 2010 begins June 15, let's take 5/15/10 0:00 AM as the end time for the hourglass. That is almost exactly 15 days, or 360 hours.

Umm...that would be...the Wars of Religion? Well, the dates [B]hoetje[B] gave and the 1769 currently displayed on the site seem to indicate that the hourglass is slowing down; we'll need to check again every hour for the next 24 hours, create a trend plot, and find a line of best fit. Any volunteers?

Of course, it could just be that the whole E3 synchronocity hypothesis is bollocks.

Just saw this over at TWC. Not sure if it's legit; if it's not, then it's at least a pretty good fake:

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Title: Shogun 2: Total War™
Published by SEGA. Developed by The Creative Assembly.
Format: PC- DVD
1 to 8 players
Ratings: ESRB Teen, PEGI 16, OFLC M, USK 12 – All provisional
Release date: 2011
MASTER THE ART OF WAR TO BECOME THE UNDISPUTED RULER OF MEDIEVAL JAPAN
In 2000, the Creative Assembly re-invented the strategy genre with Shogun: Total War, an unprecedented blend of 3D real-time battles and turn-based management game and the first offering in the multi-award winning series. With over 7 million units sold and universal acclaim from the press and community, Total War has consistently been at the cutting edge of the genre and is today one of the most successful PC franchises of all time.
In 2011, the makers of Rome and Empire: Total War will release the sequel to the game that started it all. Shogun 2: Total War will take long-time veterans and newcomers alike to the next level of strategy gaming on PC. Based on 10 years of experience in making Total War, Shogun 2 is the perfection of the series with a new Artificial Intelligence (AI), revolutionary multiplayer modes, brand new campaign map options and epic 3D real-time battles.
It is the middle of the 16th century in Medieval Japan. The country, once ruled by a unified government, is now split into many warring clans. The player takes on the role of one Daimyo – the clan leader – and will use military engagements, economics and diplomacy to achieve the ultimate goal: re-unite Japan under his supreme command and become the new Shogun – the undisputed ruler of Japan.
Set during the golden age of Samurai warfare, Shogun 2 brings to life the most turbulent period of Japanese history.
Total War redefined
Shogun 2 is the ultimate refinement of the original formula with a new, cutting-edge AI, more polish and online functionality than ever before. The result is the perfect mix of real-time and turn-based strategy gaming that invites both veterans of Total War and new players to experience the enjoyment and depth of the series.
New character progression
Choose from 9 different clans and compete on and offline for the undisputed supremacy of Medieval Japan. Gain experience to level up your own character-warlord as well as your generals and agents.
A complete single and multiplayer offering
Play through the Main Campaign in single player or invite a friend online to play competitively or cooperatively in Campaign Multiplayer mode. Join 8-player multiplayer battles with your own upgradable avatar and climb the online Leaderboard to show the world who reigns supreme. Also including exciting new modes of team play for clans, a first in the Total War series.
New Generation AI system
Developed according to Sun Tzu’s principles in the Art of War, the Artificial Intelligence constantly analyses its situation and reacts to your every move with greater precision and variety.
Improved land and naval battle gameplay
Land battles never felt so realistic with new multi-staged castle sieges and terrain features changing according to the weather and time of the day - turning each engagement into a tactical challenge. Set buildings on fire to force garrisoned troops out and use your units’ special abilities to turn the tide of the battle.
Naval combat also offers more variety with the addition of coastal battles. Islands can work as effective cover for your ships, while sand bars and reefs can be used as traps against an enemy fleet.
Accessible and in-depth empire-building gameplay
A streamlined User Interface makes management of your kingdom much easier. Build and govern cities, recruit and train troops, conduct diplomacy and manage your agents – each feature is now introduced with comprehensive tutorials, gradually revealing the depth of the Shogun 2 campaign map – the heart and soul of the Total War experience.

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No link to original source, so I remain skeptical. Still, 'twould be interesting if true.

Fake.

New Generation AI system
Developed according to Sun Tzu’s principles in the Art of War, the Artificial Intelligence constantly analyses its situation and reacts to your every move with greater precision and variety.

It would reference the older games and say its improved on them.

New character progression
Choose from 9 different clans and compete on and offline for the undisputed supremacy of Medieval Japan. Gain experience to level up your own character-warlord as well as your generals and agents.

This aint no RPG. Would not happen.

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Originally Posted by Martok

Just saw this over at TWC. Not sure if it's legit; if it's not, then it's at least a pretty good fake:






No link to original source, so I remain skeptical. Still, 'twould be interesting if true.

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I would love it if it was a LIE. but, it's worth a try, since I'm getting bored playing Modern Warfare 2,
I can play just like anything.
i tell you
ANYTHING
Whammy!

Darnnit, looks like it is real. I was really hoping for Rome 2. I don't know, that description sounded mentally retarded. I hope that they are not turning Total War into an RPG.

No Rome and a Shogun 2 instead?! I am actually pleased. The first description I didn't quite beleive, the second, well, still makes me a little skeptical for some reason. Perhaps I am aprehensive that Shogun 2 will not live up to the original. I think any RPGy feel to the TW series won't be that bad an idea. I've always thought it would improve upon the series. As long as the strategy and tactical battles are relatively the same.

For fans of the era, such as myself, I'm sure this will be a visually stunning gameplay experience. But for fans of the original STW gameplay, it will simply be "STW's M2TW". I remain optimistic for now, but because the game will require steam, I will probably pass anyway.

To be honest I have very little/no interest at all in Japanese culture and warfare. (from the perspective of having it represent me in a game I mean) I wish that since they decided to do it Asian themed they would include the Chinese and Koreans. I would really go for that, as I am very interested in Chinese and Korean warfare and culture. (who doesn't love the Hwarang after all? :P)
When they made Rome: Total War they did not JUST include Rome, which was a good thing, as I really am not interested in playing as Rome and do not like Rome very much. I still loved the game though because I got to play as other countries in the period that I did like. Who would want to play as a Roman faction and just fight civil wars? I don't understand why they don't do that with this one. That way if someone (like me) is not interested in playing as the Japanese, they could still play as their neighbors and conquer them. :beam:
This will be a Total War that I am not getting, as I have no interest in it at all.

Well as it's the game that launched the franchise, someone must have been interested in it and I think will be again. Just as Medieval, Rome and Empire covered different regions and periods to Shogun and in doing so brought in more players, so will Shogun II.

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Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa

Well as it's the game that launched the franchise, someone must have been interested in it and I think will be again. Just as Medieval, Rome and Empire covered different regions and periods to Shogun and in doing so brought in more players, so will Shogun II.

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Yeah, I know that people will be interested in it, but it is a niche audience. It kind of leaves those who are not interested in the civil wars of one country with nothing. And it is not just that, but in the West people are crazy over Samurai and Ninjas, and they have been done to death. No one knows anything about them, but there is an internet cult built around them. It is much the same as with Spartans. People don't know taff about them, so they fill in the blanks with absurdity. I think that is important, because CA has proven that they care more about making a game for the ignorant masses of high-school students than they do about historical accuracy, which means that if it is Shogun 2, it will probably be nothing but a Ninja and Samurai fantasy. It would be the same thing if they made a Sparta: Total War focusing only on the Spartans and their Greek neighbors. That is why I say that it holds no interest for me. If I hear one more person calling Chuck Norris a ninja, I am gonna tear the hair out of my head.
I may be wrong, they may surprise me and have it at least somewhat grounded in reality, but knowing CA, I doubt it.

Mmmm.

Will hold my opinion and wait for a lot more detail.

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Yeah, I know that people will be interested in it, but it is a niche audience. It kind of leaves those who are not interested in the civil wars of one country with nothing. And it is not just that, but in the West people are crazy over Samurai and Ninjas, and they have been done to death. No one knows anything about them, but there is an internet cult built around them. It is much the same as with Spartans. People don't know taff about them, so they fill in the blanks with absurdity. I think that is important, because CA has proven that they care more about making a game for the ignorant masses of high-school students than they do about historical accuracy, which means that if it is Shogun 2, it will probably be nothing but a Ninja and Samurai fantasy. It would be the same thing if they made a Sparta: Total War focusing only on the Spartans and their Greek neighbors. That is why I say that it holds no interest for me. If I hear one more person calling Chuck Norris a ninja, I am gonna tear the hair out of my head.
I may be wrong, they may surprise me and have it at least somewhat grounded in reality, but knowing CA, I doubt it.

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I repect you opinion, but for a company to flourish, it needs to make money. I was 23 when I bought the first TW, quite young. Now I am 34 and I still enjoy the game despite it being perhaps directed at younger players. Younger players are who tend to buy and have more time to play video games. I don't think the company is selling out because it gears it's games toward the younger and larger demographic. Historical (excessive) accuracy is fine for the classroom, but video games, even those based on historical events, need a little space to expand upon the topic and make the game a lttle more open ended. Total world domination, which is the theme of these games, never really took place in history. It was attempted but never suceeded. A nice combination of fantasy and reality make for an attractive game in my opinion. Again, I respect your opinion and don't want a heated argument. Please don't call me a 'fan boy' either!!!

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Originally Posted by A Nerd

I repect you opinion, but for a company to flourish, it needs to make money. I was 23 when I bought the first TW, quite young. Now I am 34 and I still enjoy the game despite it being perhaps directed at younger players. Younger players are who tend to buy and have more time to play video games. I don't think the company is selling out because it gears it's games toward the younger and larger demographic. Historical (excessive) accuracy is fine for the classroom, but video games, even those based on historical events, need a little space to expand upon the topic and make the game a lttle more open ended. Total world domination, which is the theme of these games, never really took place in history. It was attempted but never suceeded. A nice combination of fantasy and reality make for an attractive game in my opinion. Again, I respect your opinion and don't want a heated argument. Please don't call me a 'fan boy' either!!!

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lol, I won't call you a fanboy. :P
I know what you mean, and I am not saying that they have to strive for 100% total accuracy, which is not even possible in a video game. What i am saying though, is that since they advertise that they are making games as historically accurate as possible, they should not perpetuate ridiculous, long ago disproven myths, which they love to do in their games. Also, while game mechanics have to be simple for the average person to be able to enjoy the game, that does not mean that you have to denigrate history to satisfy a bunch of clueless...individuals...who know nothing about history aside from what they have seen on TV! If you are going to go for fantasy based on reality, then they should advertise it that way.

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Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

Yeah, I know that people will be interested in it, but it is a niche audience.

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TW is a niche genre. It's not really RTS, certainly not FPS, nor is it RPG.

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Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

And it is not just that, but in the West people are crazy over Samurai and Ninjas, and they have been done to death. No one knows anything about them, but there is an internet cult built around them. It is much the same as with Spartans. People don't know taff about them, so they fill in the blanks with absurdity.

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Exactly, though this has been/is the case with all TW games, from Samurai through Knights, Legionaries, etc. We could argue the same for R2TW. CA would probably bring back the screeching women, arcani, flaming pigs, chanting druids and super legionaries - only this time around no one would be able to mod it...

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Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

I think that is important, because CA has proven that they care more about making a game for the ignorant masses of high-school students than they do about historical accuracy, which means that if it is Shogun 2, it will probably be nothing but a Ninja and Samurai fantasy. It would be the same thing if they made a Sparta: Total War focusing only on the Spartans and their Greek neighbors. That is why I say that it holds no interest for me. If I hear one more person calling Chuck Norris a ninja, I am gonna tear the hair out of my head.
I may be wrong, they may surprise me and have it at least somewhat grounded in reality, but knowing CA, I doubt it.

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I don't think the games are targeted particularly at "high school students", more so the "casual gamer" (supposedly anyway). A sparta total war would actually be a good idea. A huge map encompassing as many cultures as possible does not necessarily equate to a better game. Sometimes less is more.

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Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

a bunch of clueless...individuals...who know nothing about history aside from what they have seen on TV! If you are going to go for fantasy based on reality, then they should advertise it that way.

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I don't think the game(s) is really marketed at history buffs.

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lol, I won't call you a fanboy.

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Thanks! :)

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What i am saying though, is that since they advertise that they are making games as historically accurate as possible, they should not perpetuate ridiculous, long ago disproven myths, which they love to do in their games.

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I understand this. But the AI, which occasionally thinks irrationally, might be incapable. It is up to the player to adhere to historical accuracty if possible. Granted some of the units have been ahistorical; Roman ninjas, flaming pigs, head hurlers, etc., the bulk of the game has been rather true to their claim.

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Also, while game mechanics have to be simple for the average person to be able to enjoy the game, that does not mean that you have to denigrate history to satisfy a bunch of clueless...individuals...who know nothing about history aside from what they have seen on TV!

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Dumbing down the game to suit the console crowd would be a definate mistake indeed. However, the game has to be accesable and easy to manage such that the core gameplay, strat and battles are fluid, fun and rather frequent. Many, my case included, especially the young, don't have the benefit of extensive history of the topic at hand. Those jobs are left to modders, which sadly, CA (or Sega) seems to have neglected recently.

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If you are going to go for fantasy based on reality, then they should advertise it that way

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Definately. This is the best way to keep the TW purists happy. Which they should make some attempt to do, for they built the franchise when it was young and vulnerable.

I actually think I am starting to sound like a fan boy! :P

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/se...hogun-2-reveal

Looking possibly like the return of my favorite era of pwnage, I will be sharpening my blades if its even half decent.

:P

It better have a MP chat room though.

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Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa

TW is a niche genre. It's not really RTS, certainly not FPS, nor is it RPG.


Exactly, though this has been/is the case with all TW games, from Samurai through Knights, Legionaries, etc. We could argue the same for R2TW. CA would probably bring back the screeching women, arcani, flaming pigs, chanting druids and super legionaries - only this time around no one would be able to mod it...

You forgot the Spartans with no armour whose shields did almost nothing and who had almost no defensive skill, but had millions of hitpoints. :P

I don't think the games are targeted particularly at "high school students", more so the "casual gamer" (supposedly anyway). A sparta total war would actually be a good idea. A huge map encompassing as many cultures as possible does not necessarily equate to a better game. Sometimes less is more.


I don't think the game(s) is really marketed at history buffs.

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Yeah, I do get what you and A Nerd are saying, but to me, making a game like Sparta Total War, or Shogun Total War would be like making a bi-op of Chuck Norris. While there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, there are ridiculous and inaccurate expectations that your fan base is going to have that will hurt the chances of your game/movie selling well. Therefore it is highly likely (as i say, esp considering CA's record) that rather than portray something at least somewhat accurately, they will give their fans what they expect. When the first Shogun was made there wasn't nearly as much an internet cult around ninjas and samurais and stuff as there is now (and I think that younger people were smarter then than the younger people now), so you had a much better chance of getting something real then.
Like I say, I hope that I am wrong, but I am not gonna bet a lot on it. I am really not that into Japanese history, but if I hear that they did a good job on it, and (most importantly) it is moddable, I will buy it. If it is not moddable though, or if they have battlefield units of ninjas, I am definitely not going to. :P

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Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

You forgot the Spartans with no armour whose shields did almost nothing and who had almost no defensive skill, but had millions of hitpoints. :P

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I also forgot to mention the armour piercing head throwers.

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Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

If it is not moddable though, or if they have battlefield units of ninjas, I am definitely not going to. :P

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Then I doubt you'll be buying it. The CA seem to be moving away from "modability" and the fantasy units such as Kensai and Battlefield Nnja are almost certainly going to be in there. I hope not, but knowing CA, well... no doubt we shall see.

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Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa

I also forgot to mention the armour piercing head throwers.

lol, yeah. They were always the first thing that I modded out.

Then I doubt you'll be buying it. The CA seem to be moving away from "modability" and the fantasy units such as Kensai and Battlefield Nnja are almost certainly going to be in there. I hope not, but knowing CA, well... no doubt we shall see.

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Yeah, I probably won't. I don't mind the fantasy units so much, as long as I can mod them into oblivion :beam:, but I refuse to support another Total War game without modding tools. I hope that others will too. The moddability of Total War games is what always has given them such value. You take that away and they are not worth the money that you spend on them.

The key word here is moddablity, if CA cares about the older gamers, it will be included. If not, and they are merely addressing this newer, younger crowd with all the before mentioned dislikes (fantasy, ahistoricality, etc), then they don't and it is up to the consumer to decide whether he will support CA or not. Unfortunately, the purists seem to be in the minority.

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and the fantasy units such as Kensai and Battlefield Nnja are almost certainly going to be in there

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I actually liked these units. I hope the Kensai is included, though I could do without the BNs. Just need some balancing issues to be resolved. An RPG diaymo and/or kensai...oooooh *salivating*!

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Originally Posted by Asai Nagamasa

but because the game will require steam, I will probably pass anyway.

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This remains a huge sticking point for me as well; I really, really do not like Steam at all. I almost didn't get Empire because I was concerned about the program's invasiveness and download speeds....and it turned out I was right to worry.

Even if CA actually gets everything right with this next TW title (not bloody likely, given their track record), I'd still be extremely reluctant to get it, if only because of needing to have Steam to run the game. I won't say I absolutely wouldn't purchase it, but it does make my doing so much less likely.


Of course, it's probably a moot point anyway. Given how Rome, Medieval 2, and Empire turned out, I'm pretty pessimistic about CA's ability to do pull this off. I would dearly love to be proven wrong, but it's very hard for me to be hopeful at this point.

The press release is clearly a fake; it promises AI. [/cynicism]

CR

Hmm. The evidence for Shogun 2 seems to be mounting....


Go to IGN PC Games and check out the "mystery trailer": Watch what image appears when you place your cursor over it. Then listen to the music as the trailer plays; some of us will find it very familiar indeed!

Finally, CA has posted this haiku (which is originally a form of Japanese poetry) on their Twitter account: "In Spring it roams not. / Maybe eastern sun rises / Nor will it show guns".


I have to say, this certainly does seem to be pointing towards a sequel to STW. If it's not, then it's a superb piece of misdirection on CA's part.

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The press release is clearly a fake; it promises AI. [/cynicism]

CR

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Heh. Wish I wasn't so inclined to agree with you....

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Originally Posted by Martok

Go to IGN PC Games and check out the "mystery trailer": Watch what image appears when you place your cursor over it. Then listen to the music as the trailer plays; some of us will find it very familiar indeed!

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I just lost respect for IGN.

It is impossible for me to view that page. I cannot get to any non AU part of ign. I click on its international links: United States, and it redirects me to... au.ign.com

Its not featured on the main page here. :laugh4:

I'd say its all but confirmed.

mystery-game-teaser-trailer/videos/shogun_trl_shodo_52710.html

I'm going to ask Beefy to see if he can read what some of the pages say.

I'm hoping for STW2. Vuk, before STW, Japanese culture and history were at or near the bottom of my "things that interest me" list. STW changed all that.

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before STW, Japanese culture and history were at or near the bottom of my "things that interest me" list. STW changed all that.

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I agree. Before STW the only thing samurai related I knew or enjoyed were in a Kurisawa film. Once I bought and played this game, I felt like I was a samurai. Here's to rekindlilng that memory in my imagination! Let's hope the game lives up to expectations!

I hope you all know that if it is Shogun 2 and they manage to kill it as they did with Empire, this franchise and our forum might as well be dead.

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I hope you all know that if it is Shogun 2 and they manage to kill it as they did with Empire, this franchise and our forum might as well be dead.

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Now why would you have to go and have those negative thoughts man.... Think positive thoughts and karma will carry us through in the end.

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Originally Posted by Gregoshi

before STW, Japanese culture and history were at or near the bottom of my "things that interest me" list. STW changed all that.

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Same here. For a long time, I'd had absolutely no interest in Japanese or Eastern culture. That changed with the release of Shogun; suddenly I found I couldn't get enough of it!

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Now why would you have to go and have those negative thoughts man.... Think positive thoughts and karma will carry us through in the end.

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I'm sorry, E:TW turned me into a pessimist.

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Originally Posted by Gregoshi

I'm hoping for STW2. Vuk, before STW, Japanese culture and history were at or near the bottom of my "things that interest me" list. STW changed all that.

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Well, assuming that the game is moddable, I will give it the chance to change my mind. ~;)
(I still wish it was Korea: Total War though :beam:)

Well then, if this is the case, fingers crossed that Ming China's in it and you can stomp on Japan.

I've made a thread about what players would like to see in the next Total War on Gamespot...it's clear that fans want a Rome 2 and something that focuses on Asian Warfare..Something like Dynasty: Total War

I haven't seen this posted yet. Sounds real to me.

Shogun 2: Total War Leaked Announcement

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Originally Posted by Martok

Just saw this over at TWC. Not sure if it's legit; if it's not, then it's at least a pretty good fake:






No link to original source, so I remain skeptical. Still, 'twould be interesting if true.

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Ituralde, falling behind my friend. :wink:

Phew, that's rather embarassing. Guess just skimming through the thread scanning for any IGN links wasn't enough. My bad.

At least there's some kind of source for it. Also if you follow the link and look into the comments they guy who posted the info claims that there's more to come:

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/55...aks-Out#197283

I guess we'll see once E3 starts.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

I just lost respect for IGN.

It is impossible for me to view that page. I cannot get to any non AU part of ign. I click on its international links: United States, and it redirects me to... au.ign.com

Its not featured on the main page here. :laugh4:

I'd say its all but confirmed.

mystery-game-teaser-trailer/videos/shogun_trl_shodo_52710.html

I'm going to ask Beefy to see if he can read what some of the pages say.

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His talking about quality to be a good Shogun. And he wrote shogun on those papers.

I'm willing to go and buy S2:TW regardless of the quality of the recent releases just because of the setting. And hopefully the game after this one will be Rome 2. :2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

I'm willing to go and buy S2:TW regardless of the quality of the recent releases just because of the setting. And hopefully the game after this one will be Rome 2. :2thumbsup:

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:yes:

Yeah, I was really hoping for a Rome 2 as well. :P

Interesting..

I sense a revival of our Org Samurai in here if STW2 is out... :bow:

I'm all in for an STW2. I just hope it brings back the feel of the original.

In other news, from Creative Assembley's official twitter:

It doesn't end at zero.
7:10 AM May 31st via Twitterrific

DAH DAH DUUUMMMM.

http://twitter.com/CAGames

It's Shogun 2 TW, the hourglass will end along with PC Gamer's Revelation tomorrow...

First game I've been looking forward to since RTW.

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Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

It's Shogun 2 TW, the hourglass will end along with PC Gamer's Revelation tomorrow...

First game I've been looking forward to since RTW.

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Everything seems to point towards it. Or as on the .com says, Mongol: Total War?

As beefy said though, the video on IGN has the guy writing 'shogun' and talking about what it takes to be a strong leader.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/shogu...fo_leaked.html

Shogun Total War started in 1530 didn't it?

The hourglass on totalwar.com is at 1545, and set to stop tomorrow :)

On a more serious note; Haven't they already discounted Rome and Shogun and said it may be Eastern?

First trailer.

http://www.eurogamer.pt/videos/shogu...l-war-revelado

Shogun total *** too. What a disappointment.

I'm still waiting for Mughal Total War...