The Senate [Concluded]

The Senate

I got the idea for this game actually from Europa Universalis: Rome.

The basic idea is to make sure your faction wins. There are 5 factions: Military, Civic, Mercantile, Religious, Populist. When signing up players must choose one of the factions and by adding 1 senator into your faction while reducing another factions senator.

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+1 Military
-1 Populist

Military: 21
Civic: 20
Religious: 20
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 19

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Yes, I know that there have been games like these before. However, there are other features in this game that will be revealed during the game.

I can tell you that players popularity is just as important as the number of senators in the players faction.

I will reveal more about the game when each faction have at least one player.
I wish to start this on Monday if there is enough interest.

The Rules

1. There are turns that last 24 hours.
2. Player can vote once per hour.
3. Each turn Consul must be elected. To do it player must post Vote: Name.
4. Consuls powers:
1) Can once a day* give +2 to his faction while reducing the power of another faction by -2.
2) Can once a day* declare someones vote invalid.
3) Being a Consul will give some personal popularity.
5. Personal popularity shows how popular you are among the citizens. Higher popularity will give more power for that player.
6. Each faction will give certain bonuses to the players.
7. It is possible to kill other players. So, don't be surprised if you get PM stating that you are dead.
8. Killed players can join the game again 1 turn after they died.
9. It is possible for new people to join the game all the time but they can start voting only after I have accepted them.
10. There is more but that will be revealed during the game.
11. PM's from me can not be posted in the thread.

* - This should be read "once a turn". Consul can use that power once per his term and that is 1 turn.

Players:
ATPG - Mercantile
slashandburn - Mercantile
Double A - Military
Secura - Military
Diamondeye - Populist
Romanic - Populist
God Emperor - Religious
robbiecon - Civic
Yoyoma1910 - Civic
Subotan - ?

Start revealing, bub :beatnik:

Well, we really need some more people showing interest.

Ibn, it's not your fault that this subforum is GAY.

Beside the usual voting for your faction in order to gain control over Senate there is also personal popularity feature in this game. The more you help your faction the more you gain popularity. Higher popularity gives more options for players. What exactly you can do I will leave as a secret.

So, you have the main goal to help your faction gain power but also personal goals you must achieve. The winner of this game is the player who manage to fulfill all his goals fastest.

Sounds pretty interesting, consider me in.

That means we need 3 more players to start the game. Though, 10-15 players(that is 2-3 per faction) would be much more interesting. ~:)

GAY isn't for sign-ups, it's to see if anyone is interested :tongue:

In that case I shall ask the thread to be moved into the Gameroom.

I would like to try it as well..

Not sure that I get the concept. It seems that the obvious strategy would be to give +1 to your team every time (and you get more popularity from it, whatever that does),

But, okay I'll try.

+1 Mercantile
-1 Civic

Military: 20
Civic: 19
Religious: 20
Mercantile: 21
Populist: 20


FOR THE MERCANTILE FACTION!

MORE TRADE ROUTES, LESS TAXES, AND FEWER ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS!!!

The poor already have government grain, and can bathe in the river, and sleep in a big pile for warmth. All they ever do is browse and steal, they never buy anything.

Lousy Civic faction is always trying to take my money and build things for them. Bleeding heart tax-and-spend-o-crats.

Or +1 Populist for more.... babies. :smug2:

So are you in, ATPG?

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Or +1 Populist for more.... babies. :smug2:

So are you in, ATPG?

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POPULISTS?

*shudder*

Those political extremists will be the death of this Republic. They'll stop at nothing, not even civil war, to get what they want. And what they want changes by the day. A bunch of unwashed hooligans is all they are. Flighty, incompetent peasant folk! They should all be crucified. And they would, if I had my way.

I sell wooden crosses, you know.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

+1 Mercantile
-1 Civic

Military: 20
Civic: 19
Religious: 20
Mercantile: 21
Populist: 20


FOR THE MERCANTILE FACTION!

MORE TRADE ROUTES, LESS TAXES, AND FEWER ENTITLEMENT PROGRAMS!!!

The poor already have government grain, and can bathe in the river, and sleep in a big pile for warmth. All they ever do is browse and steal, they never buy anything.

Lousy Civic faction is always trying to take my money and build things for them. Bleeding heart tax-and-spend-o-crats.

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oh damn :( you picked the commercial one? that's a pity, everybody knows the backbone of any power in the world is a booming economy. Guess I must be the crazy religious people then

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

POPULISTS?

*shudder*

Those political extremists will be the death of this Republic. They'll stop at nothing, not even civil war, to get what they want. And what they want changes by the day. A bunch of unwashed hooligans is all they are. Flighty, incompetent peasant folk! They should all be crucified. And they would, if I had my way.

I sell wooden crosses, you know.

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I'll gladly hire me, my army, and our pointy swords out to do away with these uncooth ruffians.

You know what they say money makes the world go round.
Mercantile 22
Military 19
Populist 19
Religious 20
Civic 20

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

POPULISTS?

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Panem et Circenses, boys! Preach it!
Military: 19
Civic: 19
Religious: 19 (-1)
Mercantile: 22
Populist: 21 (+1)

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Originally Posted by slashandburn

You know what they say money makes the world go round.
Mercantile 22
Military 19
Populist 19
Religious 20
Civic 20

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If that's true, I'll just help myself to some.

Mercantile 21
Military 20
Populist 19
Religious 19
Civic 21

Wow.. The game started without me knowing about it.

Anyway, is this correct?

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ATPG - Mercantile
Double A - Military
Diamondeye - Populist
slashandburn - Mercantile
God Emperor - Religious
Romanic - Populist

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Would like to see someone in the Civic faction as well..

I promised to reveal more if there is enough interest. So, here I go..

The Rules

1. There are turns that last 24 hours.
2. Player can vote once per hour.
3. Each turn Consul must be elected. To do it player must post Vote: Name.
4. Consuls powers:
1) Can once a day give +2 to his faction while reducing the power of another faction by -2.
2) Can once a day declare someones vote invalid.
3) Being a Consul will give some personal popularity.
5. Personal popularity shows how popular you are among the citizens. Higher popularity will give more power for that player.
6. Each faction will give certain bonuses to the players.
7. It is possible to kill other players. So, don't be surprised if you get PM stating that you are dead.
8. Killed players can join the game again 1 turn after they died.
9. It is possible for new people to join the game all the time but they can start voting only after I have accepted them.
10. There is more but that will be revealed during the game.
11. PM's from me can not be posted in the thread.

I'll start the game in the morning and send out PM's(factions bonuses, popularity). If more people want to join then let me know.

I didn't realize we had to pick a side, but Populist is fine.

Won't factions with more players have an advantage?

True. But that means factions with less people have to work with someone else if they want to fight against larger faction.

Edit: Also, you should consider that no one is here all the time. People live in different timezones so.. use that advantage. ~;)

First of all, someone's been messing with the tally. It's inconsistent from slashandburn on.

But that doesn't actually matter, for now, cos I assume you'll reset it for tomorrow's start, Si?

Anywho I'll be Civic.

:laugh4: I'm here all the time! The end is nigh, peasants!

Also, Romanic needs to remove one vote from someone, he only added.


Vote for Consul: God Emperor

I'd settle for nothing less than a Godlike Emperor.

The game have started
Turn 1

Players:
ATPG - Mercantile
slashandburn - Mercantile
Double A - Military
Secura - Military
Diamondeye - Populist
Romanic - Populist
God Emperor - Religious
robbiecon - Civic
Subotan - ?

I consider ATPG's vote valid. If he wants to vote some one else then he should unvote first.

The official Tally:
Military: 20
Civic: 20
Religious: 20
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 20

I will send out PM's to you within the next few hours.
This turn will end ~24 hours from this post.

Military: 20
Civic: 20
Religious: 19 -1
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 21 +1

Counterweighing the vote for GE as Consule. Personally, I think Vote: Robbiecon is fine, for now.

Am I too late to sign up?

I'd go Military with everyone's 'favourite' thread spammer, if not. :3

Secura - No, you are not too late. ~:) I'll add you to the military faction.

Edit: Diamondeye - This turn there is no Consul. The first Consul will assume his/her position next turn.

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Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

Secura - No, you are not too late. ~:) I'll add you to the military faction.

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Excellent! I'll wait for the PM before I post further. :bow:

Me too please!

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Originally Posted by Subotan

Me too please!

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What faction will you choose?

Power to the People!

Military: 20
Civic: 19 -1
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 22 +1



And I'll vote for a random guy on turn 1.

Vote: Diamondeye

:smug2:

Romanic seems to have wanted to subtract from Civic, not Religious. No matter, I'll even it out:

Military: 20
Civic: 19
Religious: 18 -1
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 23 +1

The bolded are my changes, already incorporated into the tally.

Also; Bread and circuses every hour, guys.

(Thanks DE, I fixed my previous post).

Military: 20
Civic: 18 -1
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 24 +1

The world belongs to those who wake up early.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

(Thanks DE, I fixed my previous post).

Military: 20
Civic: 18 -1
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 24 +1

The world belongs to those who wake up early.

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... And have nothing better to do :laugh4:

Military: 20
Civic: 18
Religious: 17 -1
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 25 +1

would someone mind explaining to me what the point of lowering / raising the military/civic/religious etc. It isn't really explained anywhere, so I am really surprised how you guys know what to do :p

Also to the people who will vote for me, I am deeply honoured. Now outrightly saying that I would be a corrupt Consul doesn't sit well with that many people, So I will say this: if you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours :bow:

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Originally Posted by God Emperor

would someone mind explaining to me what the point of lowering / raising the military/civic/religious etc. It isn't really explained anywhere, so I am really surprised how you guys know what to do :p

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You need your own faction to be the largest possible, but in order to gain influence for it, you need to remove it from someone else. Tactics as to who to make enemies of may be applied at leisure.

I don't know what to do, I'm just adding and removing points randomly until we get better explanations.

I think something great happens when a side reaches 0. Let's find out what it is! Would you mind helping Diamondeye by lowering Religious by 1 point?

Edit: Duh another x-post with DE, at the same time.

That number behind military/civic/etc shows the power of that faction. By lowering other factions power you increase yours.
There were other games like this.. I'll try to search them out for you.

Edit: If factions power reaches 0 then those factions will be removed from the game.

No I see it now. I clearly see how you guys decide to all bandwagon my faction by going against religion:O Romanic I am so deeply disappointed. Look how DE is feeding his own populists while taking away their religion.. the foundation of their existence.

Military: 20
Civic: 18
Religious: 18 +1
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 24 - 1

Also Vote: God Emperor

Found this game: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...me-4th-edition

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Originally Posted by God Emperor

No I see it now. I clearly see how you guys decide to all bandwagon my faction by going against religion:O Romanic I am so deeply disappointed. Look how DE is feeding his own populists while taking away their religion.. the foundation of their existence.

Military: 20
Civic: 18
Religious: 18 +1
Mercantile: 20
Populist: 24 - 1

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I thought it would be a kind of compromise to lower your faction's power in return for not openly working against your candidacy for the Consulate. but no! Unvote; Vote:Diamondeye. I genuinely believe him to be the best candidate and the candidate who knows best how to accomodate to my needs ("power! Unlimited POWER!")!

Also; Romanic is also a Populist; Why would he not help me? :tongue:

Look God Emperor, I'm sure this is a misunderstanding. My colleague Diamondeye didn't mean to lower the religion, which is an important part of our society. I blame it on bureaucracy, things get mixed up all the time, you know how it is.

Let all have a beer and discuss this like civilized people.

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Originally Posted by Diamondeye

I thought it would be a kind of compromise to lower your faction's power in return for not openly working against your candidacy for the Consulate. but no! Unvote; Vote:Diamondeye. I genuinely believe him to be the best candidate and the candidate who knows best how to accomodate to my needs ("power! Unlimited POWER!")!

Also; Romanic is also a Populist; Why would he not help me? :tongue:

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:laugh4: I just saw that after I posted what I did. I don't like being alone in this big game :p

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Let all have a beer and discuss this like civilized people.

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Actually, I arranged heard that there's free bread and circus today and every day henceforth.

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Originally Posted by God Emperor

:laugh4: I just saw that after I posted what I did. I don't like being alone in this big game :p

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Then it's a good idea to ask forgiveness when you step on the toes of one of the big boys. I've heard. Somewhere. Anyway, don't quote me for it.

:laugh4: what you heard was the dreamworks movie - the prince of egypt, with the song, you are playing with the big boys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv3h57S3Rhw

You are asking me to bow down? Should I?, Could I? .. It is obvious that you and Romanic race for the top, trashing every house minor in your way, but we will put up a fight.
I don't know where the military faction stands in this feud, but the The Combine Honnete Ober Advancer Mercantiles (CHOAM(From the Dune universe)), will with a little luck put another vote in my factions favour. Hopefully Robbiecon will see the light as well and support the little man.

I heard a terrible story. A merchant obtained a monopoly on cows in the north, and he raised the price of milk to 10 times its normal value. The poorest people cannot afford this, therefore cannot feed their children, but the vile merchant doesn't care, he's making profits like never before.

We gotta do something about this crook!

Military: 20
Civic: 18
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19 - 1
Populist: 25 + 1

you already spent the two points you had this round Romanic :)

or am I wrong? I thought it had a limit

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Originally Posted by God Emperor

you already spent the two points you had this round Romanic :)

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Originally Posted by Rules

2. Player can vote once per hour.

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No, we can vote every hour.

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1) Can once a day give +2 to his faction while reducing the power of another faction by -2.

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^ This is a Senator Consul ability, if that's why you think there's a 2 points limit per day.

Civic +1
Populist -1

Military: 20
Civic: 19
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 24


Vote : God Emperor for Consul. We smaller factions have to watch each others backs.

Well yes that was indeed where I had that 2 from :P I wasn't aware that lowering / raising was = voting.
thanks for the reply Romanic :) here is my answer

Military: 20
Civic: 19
Religious: 19 + 1
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 23 - 1

don't touch the dear merchants :P

I see how it is. Nobody cares about our citizens oppressed by this opportunistic merchant. So typical of politicians, but I must say that I didn't expect this coming from a man of the Church!!!

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Commander Secura
of the Military Faction

Lords and ladies of the Senate!

While there will surely be no doubts that our glorious nation will eventually succumb to the hegemony of a single faction, it is obvious that such responsibility cannot be bestowed upon the Populists and their anarchic notions of equality among all our citizens!

These are not the soldiers who keep our lands safe, gladly offering their lives in defence of our people. Nor are they the clergy who provide the solice and faith of our Lord to those who seek it.

They are not the bureaucrats who keep the clockwork of our society well-oiled, nor are they the merchants who ensure we remain a beacon of free trade to our neighbours and fill the state's coffers with gold.

No, they are the so-called ordinary folk; the farmers, blacksmiths, servants, courtesans... these people should not be meddling in politics and I suggest we create a motion to remove this faction from the Senate entirely!

I would like to concur with previous representatives and add that it is often our faith in the Lord that helps us overcome great trials in life, and thus I am also willing to support the pious God Emperor in his bid for Consul!


vote: God Emperor

Military: 21
Civic: 19
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 22

"Also, dear senators, as I'm sure you will all feel is obvious and self-evident, there is no Rome without the people of Rome and-
"was that a fly? Could someone do me the favour to swat it? Please, I will have silence when I speak."

Military: 21
Civic: 18 -1
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 23 +1

OOC Aside: So this is what politics feel like..!

I thank thee Robbiecon. It will not soon be forgotten :bow:

and welcome lady Secura! only poetry can explain the feelings that were awakened in me, when I saw you return to the senate halls. 'Arise, fair sun, and kill the envious moon,/Who is already sick and pale with grief' - From Romeo and Juliet

Senator Diamondeye, your faction's beliefs hold equality and unity among citizens of our glorious nation above all else, and yet you talk down to fellow members of the Senate?

Your behaviour serves only to highlight the shortcomings of your ideology, and the very reasons why the Senate should move to reduce your influence.

Shakespeare. I can't believe this.

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Originally Posted by Secura

Senator Diamondeye, your faction's beliefs hold equality and unity among all citizens of our glorious nation above all else, and yet you talk down to fellow members of the Senate?

Your behaviour serves only to highlight the shortcomings of your ideology, and the very reasons why the Senate should move to reduce your influence.

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"Milady, I have done no such thing! I was merely cut short in my speech by what was surely a buzzing insect somewhere. Isn't it the job of people of your profession to kill things? What are you waiting for, then?
"Furthermore, I would like to point out that we as senators are the voice of the public. We speak with the voice of the people, and our speech should be respected as such.
"Surely, one has seen too many wars if he cannot believe in our ideology, the good of man! I dare not think what brutal episodes that have misshapen your outlook so severely, respected collegue.
"Now, however, I have bread in the oven and circuses to arrange. I fly, but will be back if my people need me!"

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Shakespeare. I can't believe this.

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Want me to get my copy of his "Julius Caesar" and rebuke this man as to classical literature?

Being the voice of the people is all well and good, we are a nation of free speech after all... but the common man has no idea how to run the state.

He has no knowledge of warfare and the tactical nous required to best the opposition, no idea about the subtle economics that our merchants use to monopolise the global market in our favour and no inclinations towards the inner-working of our nation's administration.

He is, however, aware of the right amount of time required to bake the perfect loaf of bread, the precise angle to cleave calf meat from the bone while minimising waste or the exact distance from his home to the public baths.

Knowing such things is all well and good when it comes to their own lives, but such knowledge is useless in the face of running an entire nation.

Lady Secura, this aggressive stance toward my faction is totally uncalled for. We haven't done anything against the military, and in fact I believe that you should be the force driving our nation. :sweetheart:

Now I feel so betrayed by your words. I... I am speechless.... :bigcry:

Military: 21
Civic: 17 -1
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 24 +1

Senator, I am merely being practical.

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Shakespeare. I can't believe this.

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Shakespeare indeed. If I am to be the spiritual leader of our people, I would say it's expectable that I can touch their hearts and souls.

Again attack the weak and innocent Romanic :o you and your partner are tyrrants ! Secura was absolutely right when she said you were dangerous

Military: 21
Civic: 18 + 1
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 23 - 1

to rebuild what you destroyed and to show good faith to my dear friend Robbiecon

Without having a state which can run proficiently, and without error, you shall all be lost. It is the bureaucrats who hold the true power over the running of the land.

Civic +1
Populist -1

Military: 21
Civic: 19
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 22

Another subtle move by Senator GE, to creep into your heart before the fatal attack.

Fact is, he's a religious man, yet he's quoting some poet instead of the holy scriptures. He's a fake, with a hidden agenda, please thread carefully around this evil man.

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Originally Posted by Secura

Being the voice of the people is all well and good, we are a nation of free speech after all... but the common man has no idea how to run the state.

He has no knowledge of warfare and the tactical nous required to best the opposition, no idea about the subtle economics that our merchants use to monopolise the global market in our favour and no inclinations towards the inner-working of our nation's administration.

He is, however, aware of the right amount of time required to bake the perfect loaf of bread, the precise angle to cleave calf meat from the bone while minimising waste or the exact distance from his home to the public baths.

Knowing such things is all well and good when it comes to their own lives, but such knowledge is useless in the face of running an entire nation.

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When it comes to what the people in power of this nation knows their ways around, I prefer bread to blood any day of the week (and both this sunday, where our new gladiatorial games, "The Brief, Brutal and Bloody Battle of the Bavarian Bridge (Bread Baskets and Booths Backstage)", is running!).

That's some of the finest alliteration I've ever seen Diamondeye!

Also, voting time.

Military: 21
Civic: 19
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 23

Let the God Emperor sell out his own people to win over an ally. A True Roman would never turn his back on the People.
Also, free tickets for this sunday's games for everyone! If you behave, you can be a spectator instead of a contestant! :beam:

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Commander Secura
of the Military Faction

Lords and ladies of the Senate!

While the Populist movement continues to gather momentum and grow in popularity with the people, it is here in these very halls that their true contributions to the state are shown.

Thus far we have seen their representatives willing to denounce our holy men with slanderous calls of heresy and evil... are these truly the words of the common man? Or, for that matter, the words of those we can entrust the running of our vast empire?

What say you, the merchants of our fine empire? Your silence does you no credit or justice here.

Military: 22
Civic: 19
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 22

Was the org down for everyone?


Military: 22
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 21

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Commander Secura
of the Military Faction

Lords and ladies of the Senate!

The recent celestial movements that led to a temporary blackout over our beloved nation has led to silence in these halls of late, let them fill once more with discussion!

Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

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Yup, the Org was down for a little while; I think CFC had similar problems, so it might've been vBulletin acting up.

Yep CFC was down for me too.

So that's what those Gaullian barbarians were referring to, when they kept worrying about "the sky falling on their heads"

the page is back up ? wonderful !

Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 19 + 1
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 19 - 1

(OOC: I know we had a good start, but now you're overdoing it, Secura and Robbiecon EDIT: And GE! :tongue:)

"I see that in my absence those who would wish me ill has spent the time buzzing around like busy bees. Yet I am back now, and I will not tolerate this recent development.
"My voice may be my only ressource, unlike those here who are sponsored by their trade, be it peaceful or warlike, but it is the voice of the people and I know it to be enough."

"I have no reason to act against you openly, Secura, but that which you have so adequately described for acting against me and my honored colleague. We must make sure to rein in those who would wish the Senate to become as their puppet theatre, seeking to drag around the Republic by the threads. This is a People's Republic, not the kingdom of some barbaric warlord like those in the Far North."

Military: 22
Civic: 20
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

Military: 21
Civic: 21
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

Happy now?

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Commander Secura
of the Military Faction

Representative of the Populists!

You say that the people require a voice, but to what end? Are they not content with everything that we have provided?

Their lands are bountiful with produce, kept safe from barbarians by the military and their goods bought by our merchants. Criminality is a non-issue, taxation has been at a constant low for years now and societal laws are more lenient than ever!

These halls discuss diplomatic, administrative and religious matters beyond the common man; so why the requirement for a voice?

Additionally, your concerns about my interest in the Senate are unwarranted and, if I didn't know any better, sound highly accusational. And I had hoped that you would have stopped at our clergy, how foolish of me!

I am a protector of the realm, and it is largely thanks to the efforts of my soldiers and I that this proud republic stands, in addition to the fine work of the administration, our merchants and the church.

I have no designs on controlling or dissolving the Senate, or any other nonsensical notions like it; the Republic will remain as such until the Senate and the people decide otherwise.

Military: 22
Civic: 20
Religious: 19
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20

"Commander Secura,

"It is the duty of myself and my colleagues of my party to make sure that senate never loses touch with that which is its raison d'etre; The People. Need I remind my fellow senators why we are here? The Senate represents the people! We are here to act out the will of the people. That is our privilege and our duty. And I am here on behalf of those who are not lucky enough to have the law, the sword, the gold or the gods to speak for them; I am here to see to it that the Head of the Republic, the Senate, never loses its connection to its body, The People.

"You are right that many of the people whom I represent would not know how to fare in these halls, which is what makes my presence here important; It is through I that the common man speaks. I am who grants him his voice in the matters that will surely shape his life and that of his family for generations to come.

"I apologize if I have used a rough tone with some of you, fellow colleagues, but it angers me to see the ideals of the Republic of Rome so questioned. On that note, allow me to add that I pay the same thanks to our proud soldiers that I do to our priests, our judges and tribunes, our merchants of all trades, and all other good Roman citizens; They serve the republic through each their own required role, and as you are here on behalf of our legions, so am I here on behalf of all those men who makes Rome what it is each day; from the lowliest cobbler and fisherman to the very top of society amongst the nobilitia, their voice lends mine its strength.

"I am still of the opinion that reining in God Emperor's common influence in the senate will help to balance the scales of power should he be elected Consule today."

Military: 22
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 21

Damn populists. Using my perfectly good elephants for their smelly circuses. They've turned them into beasts of entertainment, not of war.

I'm going to change that.

Military: 23+
Civic: 20
Religious: 18
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 20-

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Am I too late to sign up?

I'd go Military with everyone's 'favourite' thread spammer, if not. :3

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"Oh and someone should burn down that Carthage village, by the way. Secura?"

You still dare steal representatives of the religious house minor?! An investigation should soon commence to find out if the house of populists even pay hommage to our Gods


Military: 23
Civic: 20
Religious: 19 + 1
Mercantile: 19
Populist: 19 - 1

Taking back what is rightfully mine

Representative Diamondeye:

It is your duty, first and foremost, to uphold the integrity of the state; the lives of our people are certainly of the upmost importance, but they are nothing compared to the sacrosanctity of Roma itself.

You mention priveleges, but that is not why we're here; we are here because we are the greatest minds in our respective fields, which is precisely what is required to run our glorious republic. The common man would be here himself, if he was only a patron of the collegia rather than the taverna.

I do not oppose the common man making his opinions known to the Senate, but dictating the course of diplomacy, economics or the bureaucracy? That is a different matter altogether.