Caesar in Gaul DLC

Edit2:


It's now official, link below:

http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...217#post980217



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19WWiCkJjz8

Attachment 11350


Attachment 11351


Seems like some factions like Bactria will be patched in with the dlc.

This reminds me of the Penninsular Campaign for Napoleon.

Also supposedly there are also new general types for MP.

3 new factions+ Bactria (As said above) patched in.

~To be honest this is obviously leaked footage~ (From the same people in my previous thread I believe)

Source: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...in-Gaul-quot-)

Posted by the Russian community for TW. (I know that stereotype some are thinking as they read.... :shame: )



Discuss.

Very interesting. Im wondering if there will be added features that will be added into the main game. Like a family tree!

Lol video got removed already.

Reminds me of how the leaked intro got removed too. :inquisitive:

Edit:

Not to sure about family tree, but with a more focused campaign like this one imo it needs something like that. Perhaps a political tree or something that shows the political members of Rome/ Gallic council with the ability to change roles for each person sort of like Shogun 2's family/general tree jobs. (Building, Tax, Soldiers, etc)

I found another link, edited OP.

I don't understand a word of Russian but for some reason, I still turned up the volume to hear him better...

I'm Bulgarian so I understand about 60-70% of spoken Russian. I'll try to translate (take it with a grain of salt - very loose translation!):

Hello everyone. I am about to tell you more details about the first major expansion of Rome II called "Caesar in Gaul" which is expected to finish the closed beta test (using CA beta testers from all around the world) stage any moment now. Following this beta test some screenshots have made it into circulation and I have gotten some myself and I will now share them with you. As you can see the background (of the menu background) is green for this addon and the whole interface has been thematically changed as well. This update will be telling the story of Caesar's conquests in Gaul. Gaul if you don't know, is a kingdom which used to be situated on the territory of modern France. Anyway. This will be an interesting addon for those folk who enjoy single player campaigns. No major changes are expected for multiplayer.

Now on to the first screenshot. Four factions are available in this addon and they each have their own campaigns, as is customary for the total war titles. Now you can see the campaign for Rome, the Avernii, the Suebi and the new faction - Nervii (?). You can see their icon it is a horn on a beige background. Anyway.

The first faction is the Nervii. They hail from the Belgae tribal group (?) and are located in northern Gaul, where modern day Belgium is located. Now you can see the faction description, which is quite interesting.

Translation of faction details:

Citizen Valour - PO bonus for the presence of Gaelic culture (max +4)
Belgian Asceticism - Trade income from all buildings -50%
Brave Belgians - + 10% morale when fighting in your own territory or that of your allies.

Rome is the second faction you can see it's bonuses and also the starting position. You can see they start with 5 provinces (I think he means settlements).

Rome faction details:

Cultural Aversion - +25% unrest for the presence of foreign cultures.
Romanisation + 2 Roman culture spread
Exemplary Civilization - +10% morale when fighting in neutral or enemy territories.

The same with the Arvernii (Avernii), you can see their bonuses and starting provinces.

Translation of Avernii faction details:

Gaelic Warriors - +10% melee attack in own or allied territories.
Noble Rivalry - Reduced PO for the presence of Gaelic culture (max -4)
Gaelic Hegemony - diplomacy bonus with gaelic tribes (same culture)

The last is the Suebi, located in modern Germany, and you can see the details and description.

Translation of Suebi faction details:

Warrior Society - +1 PO for each war with a neighboring faction.
Limited Agriculture - -50% income from agricultural buildings.
Germanic Invaders - +10% melee damage when fighting in neutral or enemy territories.


Something interesting in this addon is the new type of general available in multiplayer battles. You will see that Caesar has appeared in the Roman screen. There used to be 3 types of generals, and now we have a fourth one. He has two unique skills:

Translation of skill names:

- Loyalty of the 10th Legion
- Personal (Commanding) Presence

I can't give you details on the abilities themselves as this is all the information i have been provided with.

You can see the new general for the Avernii too, named Vercingetorix (he has trouble reading it lol)

You can see his unique abilites (he goes on explaining that these abilities are unique to the new generals for this addon)

Translation of skill names:

- Unified tribe
- Merciless

The Nervii have their new general too, named Boduognat

Translation of Skills:

- Concentrated force
- Morale

The only faction which has not received a new general is the Suebi (something about not receiving one as of now but it might come in a later build of the addon)

Onward.

You can see the faction menu and how it is set up. You can notice three new factions - Boii, Galatia and the Nervii. You can also see Bactria but we covered it already and you more or less know all about it now. But this addon gives us three brand new factions, as you know the Suiebi, Rome and Avernii were already in the game.

Little more can be said of the new factions, you can see and you probably know that the barbarian factions are quite similar to one another (talking about the rosters). You can see that the Boii are almost identical to the Avernii. You can see the unit prices are the same, even the names are identical - Celtic Slingers, Noble Cav etc. You can see their stats on the right of the screen. Basically they are a copy of the Avernii units. Some names are different - Followers of the Sword instead of (the unit before Oathsworn).

He mentions that usually Avernii infantry lacks armour but this second tier swordsman has a respectable 65 in armour whcih makes it a satisfactory unit for a barb faction because of price and quality. The spear units are identical etc.

The next faction is Galatia, their general unit is a spear band, not a sword band. You can see they lack top tier sword units. Something like Egypt, they are more spear focused than shock infantry focused. They also have Galatian Legionnaires. Their other units are more or less carbon copies of the Avernii units. (goes on showing spears/skirmishers/cav)

Now we see the Galatian Brigands which are a horse archer unit, which is the first time those are added for a Barbarian faction (ie. not a steppe faction).

On to the Nervii you can see they have 4 types of swordsmen but they have some lackluster spears. They are coloured in yellow instead of the Avernii green but everything else is more or less the same. They have some Viscious Sworsmen, you can see their stats (similar to Naked Warriors) and the Guerrilla Swords who have the ability to be deployed almost anywhere on the tactical map (he explains the deployment method).

Onward. You can see the spearmen are very weak, based on stats and price. Now ranged units, you can see celtic archers in addition to the slinger and javelin units. You can pause the video and compare unit stats if you are interested. This was a brief overview of the leaked information on patch 1.8and the new addon (DLC). This should be released soon, before new years. It will probably be a paid DLC.

Well, they just formally announced it: http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...217#post980217

Ahem, sorry to be negative, but this is probably something I definitely won't be buying unless they fix the glaring bugs with the grand campaign... AND put some challenge in mid-to-late game for SP campaigns (on legendary difficulty at least).

I do like the tight focus and 24 turns per year.

I for one am confident that CA will get stuff fixed (perhaps later rather than sooner) so I will be gifting myself this one for Xmas.

Well idk about gifting it for myself for Christmas..... I just bought a razer gaming keyboard for that...... but I will definitely keep an eye on it... I just like when they add new factions to play.

oh btw myth ty for the translation

I waited a month to buy Rome II, and find it a great game, really have no problems with it and don't understand other's problems. I guess it is perspective difference. My brother and uncle have since purchased the game and love it too. We trade off coop campaigns.

I am quite excited for this!

It has seasons and Caesar. I'm definitely getting it on day 1 minute 1.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Myth

It has seasons and Caesar. I'm definitely getting it on day 1 minute 1.

---

BOOM

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Myth

It has seasons and Caesar. I'm definitely getting it on day 1 minute 1.

---

They're gonna make a family tree and campaign depth DLC soon and within a couple of months, you will have paid 100 whatever currency you like on top of the original price of the game so you can have what you wanted in the main game :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sp4

They're gonna make a family tree and campaign depth DLC soon and within a couple of months, you will have paid 100 whatever currency you like on top of the original price of the game so you can have what you wanted in the main game :D

---

Yea. :shrug:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mhantra

I waited a month to buy Rome II, and find it a great game, really have no problems with it and don't understand other's problems. I guess it is perspective difference. My brother and uncle have since purchased the game and love it too.

---

You say perspective, I say perception, let's call the whole thing off. :dizzy2:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mhantra

I waited a month to buy Rome II, and find it a great game, really have no problems with it and don't understand other's problems. I guess it is perspective difference. My brother and uncle have since purchased the game and love it too. We trade off coop campaigns.

I am quite excited for this!

---

You didn't see the launch of this game. Your first impression and a lot of other people's are very different. If the game was released in its current state, I think I'd be happier about it too.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sp4

They're gonna make a family tree and campaign depth DLC soon and within a couple of months, you will have paid 100 whatever currency you like on top of the original price of the game so you can have what you wanted in the main game :D

---

Really? Haven't heard about that yet. Can you give me a link? Or it's just a rumor? Mind you I'd love a family tree. I think it should be a free DLC however. Caesar should be paid as it's an optional new campaign like RotS.

Sure, i paid full price but I got to play the game from pretty early on. Plus I'm a mod here so I kind of have to have it :laugh4:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Myth

Really? Haven't heard about that yet. Can you give me a link? Or it's just a rumor? Mind you I'd love a family tree. I think it should be a free DLC however. Caesar should be paid as it's an optional new campaign like RotS.

Sure, i paid full price but I got to play the game from pretty early on. Plus I'm a mod here so I kind of have to have it :laugh4:

---

It's not a rumour or a story, it's kind of what has been happening with most games the last couple of years.

It's just a joke. :clown:

Also Caesar in Gaul resembles something more like the Penninsular Dlc for Napoleon. It's a small map covering one area (Spain in that case, France in this one) has added some new stuff and that's about it.

So far there are three more dlc planned. Free or not I have no clue.

Source: http://steamdb.info/app/214950/#section_dlc

Edit: Ninja'd

Yes but are you just taking a jab at CA based on assumptions or do you have info on a family tree DLC? Cause I'd love some info...

Honestly, I feel sorry for some of you. So miserable :*(

To be fair, its very calm here compared to other forums.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Myth

Yes but are you just taking a jab at CA based on assumptions or do you have info on a family tree DLC? Cause I'd love some info...

---

I already said there is no info because I made it up. I am not even assuming anything but I wouldn't be surprised if they pull off something like that. I don't care if you buy the DLC or not, why would I?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

To be fair, its very calm here compared to other forums.

---

This is true, and why I came here. But honestly, I meant it. I get such enjoyment out of the game that I am bummed others are not getting that same experience.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sp4

I already said there is no info because I made it up. I am not even assuming anything but I wouldn't be surprised if they pull off something like that. I don't care if you buy the DLC or not, why would I?

---

Didn't try to make you buy anything. I wanted clarification on whether you had info or not, that's all. You can be like BroskiDerpman and wait for 99% off from GoG. :clown:

But TBH if they charge for the family tree they'd be shooting themselves in the foot, because that was the #1 most requested feature to make it back into Rome 2. With the amount of hate they've received from the botched up launch (thanks SEGA) I really doubt they'd charge us for something like this. Also, since they said it has no place in Rome 2 I really doubt we'd be seeing it, although one can hope.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Myth

You can be like BroskiDerpman and wait for 99% off from GoG. :clown:

---

:2thumbsup:

I can be like Sp4 and not bother. Developers/publishers/salespeople have shot themselves in the foot before and it worked.

Though it also hurts to shoot yourself.

I think.

I myself am still awaiting CA to patch ETW some more. Sigh...

Though with mods like APE:TI ETW is ok, certainly most innovating mechanics for TW; the scripts is like a ghetto ui but it works. :clown:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BroskiDerpman

I myself am still awaiting CA to patch ETW some more. Sigh...

---

Wait, seriously? Its not going to happen, We are four games past ETW, patching time for the game is long gone.

Once upon a time there was this thing called dry humor. (I attempted :2thumbsup: )

Even then CA essentially ditched ETW. CA could have patched before Napoleon but they of course didn't. Hence why you're taking it too literally but think of it; Empire was released several years ago yet there's still numerous major bugs and glitches that need to be resolved. It's a joke and statement poking fun at CA never wrapping up ETW.

Most Americans aren't good with dry humor lol.

Watch them watch some of the English comedies sometime. Blank faces...lol

Dont get me wrong, I love dry humor, much prefer it over other types, but that form isnt very well communicated over the internet.

Well I suppose there is the matter of what price it is. I don't think they can realistically charge more than 5 euro for this.

You might be disappointed then, its just a bit over $13, or around 9-10 euros.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BroskiDerpman

Once upon a time there was this thing called dry humor. (I attempted :2thumbsup: )

Even then CA essentially ditched ETW. CA could have patched before Napoleon but they of course didn't. Hence why you're taking it too literally but think of it; Empire was released several years ago yet there's still numerous major bugs and glitches that need to be resolved. It's a joke and statement poking fun at CA never wrapping up ETW.

---

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the last ETW patch AFTER the release of Napoleon. If I remember correctly, the best campaign AI came out with that very last patch. Too bad it came just about when everybody was already utterly bored with the game.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Wait, seriously? Its not going to happen, We are four games past ETW, patching time for the game is long gone.

---

I think it's safe to assume he was kidding.

Although I still get real enjoyment out of ETW now and then. Something about the time period and the stupidly large ambition of the game really gets me in the groats.

So, to get back on track. I have been checking out the factions and started thinking about the starting locations of the Galacians. Ouch! The cultural differences in the area are going to be a killer. Is there any other Celtic faction in the area without passing across the straights into Thracia? I mean, moving south or east is going to take forever to stabilize with the complete lack of Celtic culture.

Is it possible to make good with the Hellenic factions (they get a bonus), including Selucids and Pontus, to cover your east/south side, the Greek states on your west, then cross into Thracia/Dacia, then blow across that strip of Celtic factions in a lateral strip across the north of Italia. It would be easier to remain stable and move your armies forward, but man, your nothern border across that strip would be a huge front to protect.

Just be nice to everyone and the AI will ignore you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sp4

Just be nice to everyone and the AI will ignore you.

---

That is not in my nature. If I want the land, I take it. I will let them know, too, declaring war on anyone I consider enemy.

Makes for fun games.

And man, I have gotten some stiff retribution from the AI playing this way.

Not having people coming down on your fronts seems like a good way to keep them secure. You can almost safely conquer stuff you want without starting wars with everyone in the area. Then the AI will ignore you.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Mhantra

So, to get back on track. I have been checking out the factions and started thinking about the starting locations of the Galacians. Ouch! The cultural differences in the area are going to be a killer. Is there any other Celtic faction in the area without passing across the straights into Thracia? I mean, moving south or east is going to take forever to stabilize with the complete lack of Celtic culture.

Is it possible to make good with the Hellenic factions (they get a bonus), including Selucids and Pontus, to cover your east/south side, the Greek states on your west, then cross into Thracia/Dacia, then blow across that strip of Celtic factions in a lateral strip across the north of Italia. It would be easier to remain stable and move your armies forward, but man, your nothern border across that strip would be a huge front to protect.

---

I suppose, rushing Bithynia (and Pontus) makes sense for Galatia. Pontus is at war with Cappadocia from the game start and does not field much more than slingers and eastern spearmen. Bithynia won't have much in the city at the start either: so, rush it with mercenaries and such and go from there. In a sense, Galatia is in a better position than Pontus at the game start. Pontus has to deal with the alliance they have with Bithinya before they can unite the province. Galatia, however, does not have to concern itself with such nuisances.

Probably, CA will slap Galatia with some pre-existing truce to limit this rush.

By the way, those pre-existing truces are broken at the moment. Seleucids have a truce with Cyprus, but declaring a war on Cyprus on the first turn does not incur any diplomatic penalties. There is also a pre-existing truce in place for Carthage (with Syracuse). However, declaring a war on Syracuse on turn one does not incur any diplomatic reputation penalties either.

This is out already, so is anyone playing? While I do quite fancy it, I'll wait a few months as I've still got plenty of campaigning to do! It's worth noting that I'm really pleased CA have gone this new route with the DLC, as it's so much more interesting than the existing 'new clans' DLC.

The game really is solid for me now - though it does need a few enhancements, it's nothing like the game that the magazine's reviewed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Wilbo

This is out already, so is anyone playing? While I do quite fancy it, I'll wait a few months as I've still got plenty of campaigning to do! It's worth noting that I'm really pleased CA have gone this new route with the DLC, as it's so much more interesting than the existing 'new clans' DLC.

The game really is solid for me now - though it does need a few enhancements, it's nothing like the game that the magazine's reviewed.

---

Um, what is the biggest AI opponent you have had to contend with in mid-game? :)

At 180 hours and about 3 or 4 campaigns so far I doubt I've ever encountered any other faction larger than maybe about 10 settlements tops. Not that it matters, the AI has no clue how manage development or defense in this province system. And with no time limit, I can leisurely go about developing for as long as I want should the need arise.

Net result: there are fewer consequences (read none) to my decisions in an entire campaign of Rome 2 than there are in 5 minutes of any xcom mission on classic/ironman.

Might I suggest a CAI mod? The Radious AI mod for the campaign has enhanced it quite a lot.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...4#post13221084

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lemur

Although I still get real enjoyment out of ETW now and then. Something about the time period and the stupidly large ambition of the game really gets me in the groats.

---

Dammit, now Im reinstalling ETW/Darthmod again...

The DLC costs 15 euro. Not that I don't have them but I could have gotten (and did) complete full games from the Autumn Sale for that kind of money! Since my GF is coming over for a few days I won't be able to play anyway, so I'll wait until the christmas sale which should be starting around mid December.

Edit: everyone is saying it's already available but it isn't. It's out there for pre-purchasing. It will be out on Dec 12, ie. 2-3 days before the Christmas sale.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Might I suggest a CAI mod? The Radious AI mod for the campaign has enhanced it quite a lot.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...4#post13221084



Dammit, now Im reinstalling ETW/Darthmod again...

---

If you still use Darthmod like the majority of people who search for mods (To be honest all they did was read Thomas' claims and immediately chewed it in :shrug: ) them I highly suggest Bran Mc born's sub mods, preferably the one that disables fire by rank as it's notorious for being bugged out, unresponsive, etc. Instead he (And many people before him) enable skirmish for line infantry then use tighter spacing to give 2-3 ranks fire at will which works really well. (Lines never skirmished with this tweak so it's good).

If you are interested in discovering other mods there's some good ones: WIP Victorian mod, Imperial Splendor which makes much better units than CA (Wait for upcoming version), APE:TI which has many ai tweaks (Well all the mods do) and tons of gameplay change notably manpower and supply, Empire Realism; enough said, most realistic battles for TW, The Blue and the Gray ACW mod, and some more I forgot.

JaM told me that he's going to release Rome 2 Realism pretty soon, the main problem for him is that it's much harder to make battles realistic compared to Empire and Rome 1. (He was working on an EB1 edu sub mod)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Slaists

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the last ETW patch AFTER the release of Napoleon. If I remember correctly, the best campaign AI came out with that very last patch. Too bad it came just about when everybody was already utterly bored with the game.

---

Yes, it was right after NTW's release. I myself never played Empire until the last few months. (I just bought it with all dlcs few months ago for lulz)

just to clarify... the extra faction(s) added with this dlc will add to the main campaign or no?

Heres a Lets play that CA did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJTaaGA_P4

Recruiting from client states: that's a nice add to the main campaign.

Plus it would give another incentive to create client states.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

Heres a Lets play that CA did:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpJTaaGA_P4

---

Wow. That was desperate...

I was kind of expecting the campaign map in the vanilla game to be that big and detailed when they went all blargh whaaargaa!!!! Biggest campaign map evaaaarrr!

It looks a little like the one in FotS though... all boring and empty but so does the one in the vanilla game.

I'll chime in my opinion on map scale.

I was thinking of around 15-20 provinces for Gaul in grand campaign. Then 60-80 provinces for the mini campaigns.

If done right taking over a large amount of provinces would not be snore fest but it would be much funner; note on the "if".

15-20 for Gaul in the main campaign? If Gaul has that many, that would mean doubling the number of provinces in general for the whole campaign map. Thats a lot of provinces to take. Though thats assuming we are working with the current system. It would be even worse if it was the older TW system where every province had a walled city. Then it would really be Siege Total War.

So why do you think that more provinces mean a more enjoyable campaign, or as you put it, "it would be much funner"?

Yeah, so what if it doubles the amount of provinces to take. If you include some extra diplomatic functions or from what some twcers suggested something like a warscore or public opinion on wars then taking those settlements won't be a snore fest. Then add in decent BAI for sieges then sieges would be much more enjoyable. (M2TW had the most satisfying sieges with RBAI or XAI added in with the multi layer defenses, ai attacking from multiple angles, using siege equipment, etc) Having more provinces also acan allow for more accuracy in the map, more precision in AoR recruitment, more local region stuff, and if CA implements having several provinces being tied under one governor with management based on region level (Several provinces tied to one tab with a governor or some sort of council, etc) that would lessen the amount of micromanagement.

If you're arguing about Siege Total War: In Europe wars revolved around non decisive actions around strongholds such as castles, months-years long sieges, etc. What I suggest isn't even close to that. (Though it would be cool if CA even bothers to think of that idea)

Also please read the statement carefully:

" If done right taking over a large amount of provinces would not be snore fest but it would be much funner; note on the "if". "

It's not like Pre Warscape with the 199 settlements wasn't fun, it was fun too with the large amounts of battles near settlements, attacking settlements, back and forth, reflected by 1648 mod, Broken Crescent, etc. It's just that it was too simple, nothing fancy like what I suggested above.

Also if you think it's really hard and time consuming for CA to make balancing, or minor mechanic changes I got a little story:

The MP community after the release of Rome 2 essentially died save for a few major tournaments with cash prize, mostly because of the same old replay bugs, insane balance issues, poor map design, bugs in mechanics, etc.
Some people like Wicked Pirate and Aggony Duck, decided to create balance mods, and fix some bugs and quirks of Rome 2.

Guess what:

In one day Aggony Duck managed to create a more balanced and less annoying MP experience compared to CA's 3 months of work.

So I think CA is capable of implementing at least some minor changes if I use something like this as a comparison.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

15-20 for Gaul in the main campaign? If Gaul has that many, that would mean doubling the number of provinces in general for the whole campaign map. Thats a lot of provinces to take. Though thats assuming we are working with the current system. It would be even worse if it was the older TW system where every province had a walled city. Then it would really be Siege Total War.

So why do you think that more provinces mean a more enjoyable campaign, or as you put it, "it would be much funner"?

---

On second thought, I think you are right. The game might do better with a map this small, maybe even smaller, given that they managed to make 9575896579586 generic :daisy: factions and if the map was larger, there would be 579565769685789^10 generic :daisy: factions with an equal number of settlements to conquer in boring siege battles that the AI can't handle.

I think I figured out where their 40% bigger budget they had for this game went to... they hired people to do research on :daisy: little generic mini factions to put into the most epic and huge TW game ever and then paid some more money to hype it up.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by BroskiDerpman

If done right taking over a large amount of provinces would not be snore fest but it would be much funner; note on the "if".

---

Sorry to correct your grammar but its more fun... funner isn't a word...

but as I asked before does this apply the new faction to the grand campaign? And this aforementioned levy from client states, does that only apply with the purchase of this dlc?

No need to correct it, I don't even proof read anymore as I find it too tedious to be worth it when I'm posting casually.

Ok, New Gallic factions ain't going to be on grand campaign unless if they exist on the map. Levy from client applies with patch without need for purchase of this dlc.

So the nervii will be playable without the DLC then?

I am dismayed. This DLC is seriously overpriced for what it offers. How can they charge 15 euro for this? It doesn't make sense.

By the way, with the upcoming sequel to 300 i'm thinking they'l be making a Sparta DLC, possibly covering the greco-persian wars and adding a few units to the spartan roster.

@Kam

Unless if you buy the $$DLC$$ (Wait make it triple blingeeeeee)

@Myth

I myself would love to see a campaign set earlier focusing on the Middle East. You have Persia (Parsa?) Medians, Babylonians, Egypt (They can recruit reformed stuff) etc. The map could cut Western and Central Europe, then it starts from Illyria/Greece. The map would go north to Bulgaria and such. The map would stretch east to the Indus River and cover slightly right of it. Then there would be even more land below Egypt, you then have more of the Indian Ocean, that's a second theatre to explore!

Techs can focused more on society changes, government reform paths, military progression, etc. Due to increased map size several provinces would be tied under one management, by one governor, you can't control each settlement individually in a sense but you change the overall things. There would be things such as disputes for the throne if the leader has crappy authority (More punishing than before if leader is horrid) something like a public opinion on war which can force you to make piece or face rebellions, dethrones, and stuff like that.

I really do wish... :shame:

This dlc seems a bit overpriced to me.. but I may get it just for the new faction

If any of you guys were actually waiting for this dlc than you should know that CA has announced that it has been delayed to 17th december. They claim that they will make new bug fixes with the accompanying patch 8...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by The Outsider

If any of you guys were actually waiting for this dlc than you should know that CA has announced that it has been delayed to 17th december. They claim that they will make new bug fixes with the accompanying patch 8...

---

Oh, that is excellent, it will allow me to complete my Legendary Baktria campaign.

Oh, Baktria is pretty easy faction, if anyone is interested. Unlike Legendary Averni or Carthage.

sounds awesome, but i wont fall for it again...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Myth

I am dismayed. This DLC is seriously overpriced for what it offers. How can they charge 15 euro for this? It doesn't make sense.

By the way, with the upcoming sequel to 300 i'm thinking they'l be making a Sparta DLC, possibly covering the greco-persian wars and adding a few units to the spartan roster.

---

and it will also cost 300.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by The Stranger

sounds awesome, but i wont fall for it again...

---

$15.00!

I'm a bit shocked to be honest, that is a lot of money for a small expansion campaign and a few factions. I think I will pass on this one, unless it turns out to be spectacular.

I have to agree, I have to pass this up, $15 is way too much for this. Maybe if they added in the family tree or something like that I would consider it at full price. The Peninsular Campaign was $10 and I think that had more features.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by fallen851

$15.00!

I'm a bit shocked to be honest, that is a lot of money for a small expansion campaign and a few factions. I think I will pass on this one, unless it turns out to be spectacular.

---

tbh america is off best and mainland europe is screwed the most because €15 is like what, 200 dollar? And 15$ is only 10 euros. it probably costs like a billion dollars in australia.

its not even out yet, but you can pre-order with 10% off. thugs

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

I have to agree, I have to pass this up, $15 is way too much for this. Maybe if they added in the family tree or something like that I would consider it at full price. The Peninsular Campaign was $10 and I think that had more features.

---

There will never be a family tree.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sp4

There will never be a family tree.

---

No, say it isnt true!

:drama2:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by The Stranger

tbh america is off best and mainland europe is screwed the most because €15 is like what, 200 dollar? And 15$ is only 10 euros. it probably costs like a billion dollars in australia.

its not even out yet, but you can pre-order with 10% off. thugs

---

I doubt the conversion rate is that lopsided

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

No, say it isnt true!

:drama2:

---

Not sure what you are trying to say. If they're gonna make what everyone wants and then sell it to us... fine I guess that is how industry works but that wont help me feeling anything other than pissed off about them.

I still remember that comment from some CA person when they went like ohhhhh we had no idea people liked family trees so much, this is interesting stuff!

At that point I thought... I don't really know what I thought. The people working the game today probably weren't born 8 years ago.

It was kind of sarcasm.

Anyways the family tree wasnt in ETW (or if it is I cant find it) and people didnt seem to care nearly as much then as they are now. Probably because the royal family werent really commanding generals as I recall and it made no difference whether or not you knew who your cousin. But here it actually does matter especially with the political system which is probably why they didnt think people cared about it so much, which is probably why it doesnt make an appearance in this game.

So we got some exclusive content courtesy of Trish!

Quote:

---

“One of the features that Caesar in Gaul brings is a new historical battle. The battle of Alesia was the final decisive action of Caesar’s Gallic war, and saw Caesar defeat Vercingetorix, the leader of the alliance of barbarian tribes that had gathered to oust the Romans from Gaul.

Set from Caesar’s perspective, the battle of Alesia tasks the player with maintaining the siege of Vercingetorix's Gallic stronghold. The battle begins with the Roman forces deployed within their own fortifications outside the hill-fort. The player must guide the Romans as they weather attacks from within the fort itself, and from the huge Gallic relief force without.

This screenshot depicts the battle map, and you can clearly see the hilltop fort of Alesia, surrounded by Caeser’s fortifications. We’ll make no bones about it – it’s a very challenging battle!”

---

And heres the tactical map for the battle. Clicking on it will enlarge it.

Attachment 11437

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kamakazi

I doubt the conversion rate is that lopsided

---

i meant 20 dollar. aka in europe u pay 25% more. its dumb

The prices are not equalized. It costs $15 in the USA and 15 euro here, so Europe is boned but that is to be expected. Autodesk products are about 20% cheaper in the USA too. Europe is the most mature market so we get screwed constantly. I'm not paying 15 euro for this and that's that. I was really looking forward to some new content but I hadn't considered they'd charge so much.