Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

[Andres]

For the record, my top suspects currently are:

Pannonian: As I said before, his posting habits are pretty far off norm - his posts are more frequent and longer, and he's jumping in more quickly. This suggests a role. He's given an explanation (trying to give the game some life) which may very well be legit.

AndresTheCunning: His posting habits also look rather different from Midgard Saga, when he was innocent. They're a lot closer to Capo, when he was a wise guy with a murderous streak (correct me if I'm wrong here). His posting is disturbingly regular, and he seems to be waiting longer than usual to jump in. These are things I look for in a mafioso.

A little less suspicious, but still people I'm watching out for, include:

CountArach: Originally he claimed to be having trouble keeping up with the game, but lately he's been voting based on logic that doesn't look much like him. I was suspicious of him early when his behavior looked slightly off norm numerically; however, it's not off by much.

Crazed Rabbit: His activity level is way down; he's doing just enough to avoid the wrath of GH. I don't think he'd actually behave this way if he were mafia, but still... Also, I know he's the ongoing story-teller type.

Sigurd Fafnesbane: His bizarre behavior has been well-noted. I think he'd act differently if he were mafia, but it's possible he's using that to fool us. Someone to watch out for.

Sasaki Kojiro: Always someone to watch. His behavior is very difficult to read, and he's good at staying consistent. Holmes hasn't turned up much on him, but that doesn't make him innocent...

A nice list.

I can understand why I am on it. My posting style here indeed differs from that in the Midgard Saga. But have you noticed where my posting style in Midgard got me? I was innocent, I claimed my innocence over and over and... it got me lynched and I was totally ignored later on in the game because everybody taught I was guilty

As for Capo, I posted alot more there than I do here I think, but that can be easily explained: much more participants, much more discussion, much more time on my hands in that period. My posting ratio posts by ATC/posts in total might be the same or even higher in this one, I don't know, I don't count it and make statistics about it, so I might be wrong

Kommodus, imo, the time on which players participate in the discussion shouldn't be used as a parameter in your system. It can be explained by other factors, i.e. different timezones + real life.

IIRC, weren't you the one who invented this system of analyzing number of posts, lenght of posts, vote behaviour etc. just to deceive that same system in aonother game where you were mafia? So allow me to put some questionmarks next to your results and counting systems. I think some scepticism towards the "system Kommodus" and the results it delivers is a healthy attitude.

Anyway, until now, Sigurd stays my main suspect. It also catches my eye how all of the sudden you pop up followed by Sigurd who jumps on your "über-system" (which has been deceived before, so it's not perfect), claiming to believe in it + starting to act "normal". It just seems a bit odd to me. On the other hand, the way how Sasaki was backing up Sigurd in the lynching round preceding the last one seems more suspicious to me (but he didn't back him up now..., Gah! Why are these games always so confusing).

[Lucjan]

Ah why not, I'll try this thing I've heard so much about. In.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Sorry Lucjan, you're a bit late. Perhaps you could sign up for another game that is still accepting people.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Ah why not, I'll try this thing I've heard so much about. In.

NOT!

Glad to have you in the Gameroom, sir, but this thread is mid-game and you may only join if you have been added in as a replacement [see mafia replacement thread]. The game host has not advised us to expect you to join.

We most certainly want you playing in other threads, however, as fresh meat new ideas and input are always enjoyable.

Welcome!

[GeneralHankerchief]

Actually, I do have one more person on the chopping block WoG-wise, so if he keeps up his posting behavior (or lack thereof) then you're in.

[Kommodus]

I can understand why I am on it. My posting style here indeed differs from that in the Midgard Saga. But have you noticed where my posting style in Midgard got me? I was innocent, I claimed my innocence over and over and... it got me lynched and I was totally ignored later on in the game because everybody taught I was guilty

And you certainly don't want to be lynched in this game, do you...?

As for Capo, I posted alot more there than I do here I think, but that can be easily explained: much more participants, much more discussion, much more time on my hands in that period.

Er... no. You are posting almost as frequently here as you were in Capo. And that's less frequently than you did during Midgard Saga.

Kommodus, imo, the time on which players participate in the discussion shouldn't be used as a parameter in your system. It can be explained by other factors, i.e. different timezones + real life.

Yeah, I know - it's only one of the many metrics I use. It can be difficult to figure out which metrics are relevant in any given situation. But what I'm looking for with participation timing is someone who is paying closer attention to the thread and/or putting more thought into their posts than usual. The timezone thing is irrelevant.

IIRC, weren't you the one who invented this system of analyzing number of posts, lenght of posts, vote behaviour etc. just to deceive that same system in aonother game where you were mafia?

No, you misread the history. When I'm guilty I claim to be using my system(s) to help the town, but I don't invent entire new systems for that purpose. I invent new systems for the purpose of catching mafia.

So allow me to put some questionmarks next to your results and counting systems. I think some scepticism towards the "system Kommodus" and the results it delivers is a healthy attitude.

In this you are completely correct.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

No, you misread the history. When I'm guilty I claim to be using my system(s) to help the town, but I don't invent entire new systems for that purpose. I invent new systems for the purpose of catching mafia.

In this you are completely correct.

Kommodus:

So far, your list of potential suspects -- aside from your more developed eval of Andres -- has a sparseness similar to the effort you posted in Graffiti. Obviously, that does not inspire supreme confidence in me. Could you flesh out things a notch more -- and feel free to note some of the scores versus baseline scores stuff. You won't damage my lobes, promise.

[HughTower]

2. On multiple occasions you've gone after people for not being helpful. I'm not completely comfortable with this tactic. It's one thing to lodge a pressure vote to try to get a lurker to talk; it's another thing to vote for someone who's probably innocent simply because you don't like their logic. I'd rather us go for mafia than unhelpful villagers.

Kommodus - maybe then you can explain your reasoning a little on this. I have yet to be answered clearly on this.

Sasaki & Seamus both said something similar when I accused Sigurd & Ichigo in earlier rounds of being 'unhelpful' by bandwagoning, retaliating, vote-hopping etc. Sigurd & Ichigo have also admitted these accusations to some extent.

If you know someone to be a villager, then yes, I agree, they should not be lynched however unhelpful they are. But if you don't know this fact, then surely they are prime candidates for lynching? This is the point that I, Xiahou, Andres, Pannionian, & Redleg (to a smaller extent) have been trying to make all along, and it's got most of us killed or close to being killed for it.

An unhelpful player is, at best, a hindrance, &, at worst, a mafioso. Do you know that Sigurd & Ichigo are villagers? Your number crunching works on the principle of changed habits - the perfect camouflage then is to not change one's habits. Which is what my 2 suspects are more than capable & experienced enough to do.

[Csargo]

An unhelpful player is, at best, a hindrance, &, at worst, a mafioso. Do you know that Sigurd & Ichigo are villagers? Your number crunching works on the principle of changed habits - the perfect camouflage then is to not change one's habits. Which is what my 2 suspects are more than capable & experienced enough to do.

It's almost impossible for someone to completely keep the same style they have in the games where they are innocent. That's why Kommodus's system has worked well in the past with analyzing posting frequency, post length, etc.

[HughTower]

It's almost impossible for someone to completely keep the same style they have in the games where they are innocent. That's why Kommodus's system has worked well in the past with analyzing posting frequency, post length, etc.

Actually I don't think it would be that hard. Kommodus' methods may have worked when they were brand new, but people are more aware of it now.

Also, I think your frequent but concise posting, combined with opaque reasoning,
is the Mafia game equivalent of a poker face. Sigurd can play the 'crazy townie', tell everyone he's playing the crazy townie, & could equally mask his true nature.

Those of us who are wordier & more logical will find it harder to deceive.

[Csargo]

Actually I don't think it would be that hard. Kommodus' methods may have worked when they were brand new, but people are more aware of it now.

Also, I think your frequent but concise posting, combined with opaque reasoning,
is the Mafia game equivalent of a poker face. Sigurd can play the 'crazy townie', tell everyone he's playing the crazy townie, & could equally mask his true nature.

Those of us who are wordier & more logical will find it harder to deceive.

Just because people are aware of it doesn't mean they can make the exact same posting style they have when there innocent. Just because they're aware of the system doesn't mean they can completely fool it.

Your entitled to your opnion, but even I the great and experienced I didn't even have the same posting style when I was guilty, GFII anyone?

[Pannonian]

Alright. Two main ones:

1. You seem particularly keen on proving your points, and your innocence, based on anecdotes from past games. That wouldn't be suspicious by itself, except that it's reminiscent of tactics other mafiosi, including me, have used - using specific examples from the past to try to prove a present point. Everyone does it, but you've done it a lot in this game, and it just doesn't sit very well with me.

The obvious answer is that I draw more from the past because there is more of a past to draw from. Look at Capo, and you'll find I referred a lot to examples from past games in that one. Look at Mafia V, and there were a few references to the past (which probably prompted you to vote for me before I was murdered the following night). Then look at Mafia III, my first game, where my observations were entirely theoretical.

2. On multiple occasions you've gone after people for not being helpful. I'm not completely comfortable with this tactic. It's one thing to lodge a pressure vote to try to get a lurker to talk; it's another thing to vote for someone who's probably innocent simply because you don't like their logic. I'd rather us go for mafia than unhelpful villagers.

What multiple occasions are these? I've already explained the situation with Faust. That's the only occasion where I pursued someone whom I was sure was pro-town, and I've already explained why I did so, and Faust AFAIK is satisfied with the explanation. So tell me what those other occasions were, and I'll take another look at them.

And... er... I'm afraid I must make a self-correction, now that I check my stats a second time. Your main discrepancy, P, is not your post length or frequency - those seem pretty consistent. (Highlighted because I want everyone to see that.) The number that twigged my radar onto you was actually the speed at which you've been jumping into the discussion at the start of each turn (see, I check quite a few metrics). Sorry about that - I mis-remembered my observations.

I was interested in this accusation that I was jumping into the thread too early to be normal, and was therefore likely to be hiding a role. So I went through the thread myself to look at these things he talked about. Dates are in dd/m, hh:mm form.

Note: Even if you're not interested in this particular argument, some of the details may be useful for easier reference.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

R.1
Murder post #63, posted 13/2, 00:09
My first subsequent post #78, 13/2, 03:52
Lynch post #154 (HughTower)

R.2
Murder post #181, 15/2, 14:04
My first subsequent post #200, 15/2, 22:08
Lynch post #263 (discovery1)

R.3
Murder post #300, 17/2, 20:58
My first subsequent post #302, 17/2, 22:00
Lynch post #374

R.4
Murder post ##418, 20/2, 03:35
My first subsequent post #424, 20/2, 04:12
Lynch post #573

R.5
Murder post #613, 23/2, 23:11
My first subsequent post #615, 24/2, 00:26

Which pretty much fits what I remembered. I raised some questions about Caius Flaminius in the interim period after round 2, and was further pointed in that direction by HughTower. Once the killings had been posted, and Caius wasn't one of them, I had an argument ready to post. Then followed a slow round, where there was little debate and half the players absent. I noted after that round that, while it may have been gratifying to have 4 other players (Stig, CountArach, Ichigo, Sir Moody) following me without debate, it wasn't good for the town, and it certainly wasn't good for the game. So afterward I made an extra effort to start discussion early, and to keep it going. Discussion is good for the town, and more importantly, it's good for the game.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay, the previous execution (see page 22) is finally up.

[Csargo]

Okay, the previous execution (see page 22) is finally up.

You forgot to move Sigurd from alive to executed.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Thanks, fixed.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Sorry for not voting. I was skiing all yesterday at a ski resort 2 1/2 hours away, didn't really have time to do anything besides collapse when I got back.

Right now I am inclined towards trusting Kommodus, when comparing his behavior to that of M3. Sasaki - well let's not forget rule #1 (his sig line).

Pannonian is behaving oddly, also.

There may be clues in GH's post:

"Gentlemen," he began, "you have hereby found Sigurd Fafnesbane guilty of repeated murder. Sigurd, have you any last words?"

Sigurd, an honorable warrior of Odin, shook his head. He would not endanger his chances of going to Valhalla with petty begging that would not work anyway. He did not even fuel himself with Beserkr rage and kill the townies that had voted for him, even though he was imbued with the power to do so.

Once Sigurd had made his way to the platform and completed his non-speech, Beirut concluded the ritual by feeding the condemned with the poison. Immediately, Sigurd fell onto the ground twitching, but no sound of pain escaped his lips.

Would the poor townspeople of the Frontroom (who now numbered fourteen, not counting the mafia members that may still be in their midst) have to go through with this ancient ritual again tomorrow? Only time would tell.

Does that sound like a mafia member? A 'noble' mafioso, or someone who is innocent?

Pannanion and CountArach both vote me - a lurker not really gathering suspicion. If they got their way, that means the towns wastes a lynch and leaves more suspicious people for later lynching, and the mafia doesn't have to spend half a night killing me.

Crazed Rabbit

[GeneralHankerchief]

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. Like many villagers, Seamus Fermanagh had been up all night, although his forced insomnia had a purpose aside from defending himself from any possible attack. He was actually trying to find the scourge of the town.

He had been at his computer for the past several hours, inputting all the data of who was killed, etc. But most importantly, he had a list of names on that computer. A list of suspects. He had put a large amount of work into that list and was quite confident with his results, but the problem would be keeping it out of the mafia's hands.

Another thing stored on that computer, equally (if not more) important, was some data that he knew the mafia would kill for. It was this reason why he had moved his trusty handgun to his work room from its usual hiding spot where it was difficult for anyone to access, especially in a time of need.

An alert Seamus heard a doorknob being turned. Someone was trying to enter his house via the front door! He was expecting nobody, so that left only one real possible outcome.

He could hear loud footsteps nearing his location. This mafioso obviously was concerned about speed over secrecy. However, he was slightly too late, and when he entered the work room he found Seamus, his target, pointing a handgun at him.

He smiled. Jackpot.

"It ends here, mafioso," he said triumphantly. "You'll never get it - it would be foolish to think you would."

However, the mafioso smiled at this, which unnerved Seamus. "Seamus, Seamus, Seamus," he said, almost in the tone one takes when chiding a child, "We've known each other for quite a long time now, and you know as well as I do that I'm no fool."

Seamus said nothing. Obviously this mafioso was bluffing. He hoped.

"You don't think that gun is actually loaded, do you? I made sure of that when I broke into your house (secretly, of course) while you were out working earlier. I couldn't take what I needed, since your computer was pretty well-encrypted, but now you've been so kind to just access what I need for me." During this last speech, Seamus started to sweat more and more. At the last "me," he erupted.

"ENOUGH," he yelled, "Stop bluffing!"

He fired his gun.

Click.

Damn.

The mafioso chuckled. "Well, you've outlived your usefulness to me, Seamus," he said bemusedly. "I can't have you running around telling everyone who I am, now can I?" He said this while fixing a silencer on his own gun.

Seamus, in a last desperate attempt, reached for a button on his laptop that would shut everything down. However, the mafioso was too quick, and Seamus was dead before he could do anything.

The mafioso walked over to the laptop, eyeing the names listed. Taking the laptop (still on) with his left arm, he pulled out a cell phone with his right and proceeded to dial a number.

"Yes, everything's going to plan. Let's pay Redleg a visit. You know why."

Meanwhile, the pale mafioso was sitting in his home, reading the newspaper about the previous night's lynching. The paper had given Sigurd a nice obit and everything. Shame, really. However, he couldn't finish the article as his phone rang.

"...okay, I'll pay him a visit."

Thirty minutes later, Redleg woke up. He felt rather dizzy, so it took a little while before he realized that the buzzing sound was his doorbell ringing. He stumbled towards his front door, still half-dreaming. He had been paid a visit by that familiar nightmare, the one that had been haunting him for years. Although he had quit the Marine Corps ages ago, the spirits of those dead children still haunted him.

Finally, he reached the door, absentmindedly opening it. Mistake. If he was fully aware of what he was doing he never would have done that.

"Cable guy," said the pale man at the door, "There was a call about your television a while ago. I'm here to fix it."

Redleg wasn't buying it. "I didn't call for any cable guy," he protested. "I don't even have cable, I cancelled my subscription a while ago." The mafioso just grinned.

"Come on Redleg, don't act stupid. You know who I am."

Redleg took another look at the pale man, now fully awake. His eyes widened. "B-but... what? It's y-YOU? How is it possible?"

The mafioso chuckled. "Heh, you were stupid to believe that I couldn't swim. Well, I got news for you - you were fooled. I am an excellent swimmer, I just faked it. But enough about water. Let's get down to business. You made a big mistake working together with Seamus. Oh, you Marines always like messing around with stuff which is above your heads. So foolish, so unnecessary, so... deadly."

Redleg was panicking now. "I swear, Seamus hasn't told me anything about it yet, he doesn't trust me enough! I swear!" Redleg was pretty spooked at this point. No, "spooked" doesn't cut it. "Terrified" is a better choice.

The mafioso let this sink in for a minute. "Good point, I daresay Seamus wouldn't be so trusting..."

Redleg was getting a bit of his color in his face back, this was going fairly well. "So, let's just call it a day then, I'd never tell anyone about this, I won't reveal your identity. On my word," he added subtlely.

That last bit caught the mafioso's attention. "You'd never reveal me, eh ? On your word? Nice try sucker, but the last time I trusted someone on his word was when my boss promised me a raise, which he never give me. I had to kill him, you know." The mafioso said this with a slight smile.

Redleg quickly lost the little color he had regained in his face. He was even paler than his soon-to-be killer. The mafioso continued, not really caring about Red's facial condition.

"So, no. I'm afraid we can't come to an arrangement. Pity." A trigger was pulled, and the number of living villagers in the Frontroom decreased by one. The living pale man went home.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut gathered the remaining (and there were few) villagers to the town center in order to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began, "by continuing to choose wrongly you seal your own fate. If you wish to break this trend of going home only to come back tomorrow, I suggest you choose properly this time." With this ominous words, voting began once again.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Still alive: (12)
Kagemusha
Sasaki Kojiro
Stig
Ichigo
Pannonian
Crazed Rabbit
Reenk Roink
CountArach
ByzantineKnight
AndresTheCunning
Dutch_guy
Kommodus

Wrath of God:
Ignoramus
Lord Motep of Kendermore
Warluster
JimBob
Fenring
pevergreen

Killed:
UltraWar
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Zalmoxis
Orb
Rythmic
sapi
Sir Boo
Sir Moody
ChuggtheSquirrel
Faust| (replaces Destroyer of Hope who suicided)
Seamus Fermanagh
Redleg

Executed:
HughTower
discovery1
Caius Flaminius
Xiahou
Sigurd Fafnesbane

[Redleg]

Thanks for killing me Sasaki. Going to have a very busy day tomorrow and I don't have time to really watch and read this thread.

[Csargo]

I'm going with Kage. Vote:Kagemusha

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=131

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=342

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...30#post1437130

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=642

All of his votes are one liners not really adding anything. He has lurked pretty much this entire game, and I'll be the first to ask him why?

[Xiahou]

I'm glad that Seamus is cleared- his comments will be much more valuable now that he's confirmed innocent.

Suspicious people? Right now, CR would be near the top of my list. Still nothing resembling a denial of being mafia and he's been lurking heavily. Additionally, Kommodus' seem... I dont know.. half-hearted? Of course, Sasaki is highly suspicious as well.

[Andres]

And you certainly don't want to be lynched in this game, do you...?

And a mafioso would certainly like to see a townie lynched. Less killing for him to do.

Er... no. You are posting almost as frequently here as you were in Capo. And that's less frequently than you did during Midgard Saga.

Well, a change in posting style can be explained by several other elements, e.g. getting more experience in mafia games (learning from the past, which I should, because I didn't particularly well in previous mafia games ), real life issues (I haven't been home much in the last week-ends + recently I had to work a few times out of office, which is rather unusual for me), etc.

Yeah, I know - it's only one of the many metrics I use. It can be difficult to figure out which metrics are relevant in any given situation. But what I'm looking for with participation timing is someone who is paying closer attention to the thread and/or putting more thought into their posts than usual. The timezone thing is irrelevant.

Ok, thanks for elaborating.

No, you misread the history. When I'm guilty I claim to be using my system(s) to help the town, but I don't invent entire new systems for that purpose. I invent new systems for the purpose of catching mafia.

Off course, it can also be a change of tactics, not? Besides, other, more experienced players noticed you were posting alot less now than in other games. Off course, this can be explained by real life. But now you pop up with a lengthy list of suspects, trying to convince the town. Weren't you detected by your own system? Did your system notice something different regarding your posting style and behaviour in this particular game? An honest answer please

But for now, I noticed that Sasaki is posting alot less than usual. It's not 'normal' for him at all. So, Sasaki, what are you up to? You backed up Sigurd and casted enough accusations towards Xiahou to get him lynched. Afterwards you let Sigurd down by not posting anything in favour of him anymore and he got lynched...

Are you a mafioso enjoying to see how the town has lynched two of their own (Xiahou and Sigurd)?

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro

You have been at the Org frequently the last couple of days, so I would like to know why you suddenly switched to lurking in this game.

[Kagemusha]

I'm going with Kage. Vote:Kagemusha

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=131

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=342

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...30#post1437130

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=642

All of his votes are one liners not really adding anything. He has lurked pretty much this entire game, and I'll be the first to ask him why?

Becouse i have been busy and posted at all,only becouse respect towards GH. I intend to take a break from Mafia games after this one is finished.

[Stig]

I'm going for Reenk, the only person he has been voting for is Sasaki ... ofcourse he might be right that Sasaki is mafia, but he could be mafia himself too.

It could even be a trick with them both being mafia, I think both are easely able to do that.

Vote: Reenk Roink

[CountArach]

Vote: Sasaki

He's been quiet... too quiet...

[Dutch_guy]

Vote: Sasaki

He's been quiet... too quiet...

Well, maybe a bit indeed. Although he still accounts for a little over 10 percent of the totall amount of posts, which I think is quite normal for him.

[Pannonian]

Vote: Crazed Rabbit

Look at his vote count for why. Why hasn't he been wogged?

[HughTower]

Pannanion and CountArach both vote me - a lurker not really gathering suspicion. If they got their way, that means the towns wastes a lynch and leaves more suspicious people for later lynching, and the mafia doesn't have to spend half a night killing me.

Lurkers gather suspicion by just lurking. Of the (3 incl. this one) games played, I've seen Prole, Reenk (CdiT), & AtPG (Midgard) all lurk with conspicuous success.

I find it strange that you question this. You were voted to draw you out of the shadows (which incidentally it has done), & you chose to defend yourself by casting a shadow over your accusers, rather than the explanatory mea culpa defence that was required.

Reenk, Kagemusha &, to a lesser extent, Stig, have similarly suspicious posting & voting patterns.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Another mafia death. So far, I have survived exactly one game (requiring the status of a god to do so) and in that game I helped lead the town's self destruction with efficiency and dispatch.

Nevertheless, I am so constituted that I can't help analyzing, so here goes:


Posting Activity Level = (# posts) [posts/page {40 ea.}]

AndresTheCunning = (22) [1.22]

ByzantineKnight = (18) [1.0]

CountArach = (19) [1.06]

Crazed Rabbit = (4) [0.22]

Dutch_guy = (13) [0.72]

Ichigo = (85) [4.72]

Kagemusha = (9) [0.5]

Kommodus = (13) [0.72]

Pannonian = (58) [3.22]

Sasaki Kojiro = (66) [3.67]

Stig = (34) [1.89]

Reenk Roink = (17) [0.94]


For comparison, using M5, Midgard, & Graffiti, the

Average Mafioso/Jotun = [1.89]

Average Det/Doc/God = [1.08]

Average "Vanilla" townie = [1.11]


NOTES

All townies seem to be about the same, but mafiosi seem to be about 70% more active than the average townie - in part because they survive longer into the game.

Big Time Lurks...[0.5] and under... who do not end up dead or wogged by the mid-game usually DO HAVE ACTIVE ROLES. However, I see no trend for good/bad in this -- seems about evenly split.

Sasaki and Ichigo usually have double the total number of posts of any other participant, usually with Sasaki having the higher count by a margin of less than 20.

[Stig]

Stig = (34) [1.89]
Average Mafioso/Jotun = [1.89]

****

[Reenk Roink]

I'm going for Reenk, the only person he has been voting for is Sasaki ... ofcourse he might be right that Sasaki is mafia, but he could be mafia himself too.

It could even be a trick with them both being mafia, I think both are easely able to do that.

Vote: Reenk Roink

Of course, I could be a human, but also a super intelligent dog, perhaps a giant half dog-half human!

Many people have voted for Sasaki Kojiro. Here's another one:

Vote: Sasaki Kojiro