KotR - Unanswered Questions

[Privateerkev]

Still, I think I might not have changed anything because of partial OOC unwillingness of people to go against who the game designates as emperor.

That, and from the Tales of the Illuminati, it seems they already decided on Siegfried.

[OverKnight]

Hans was a known quantity, the Order thought that if he took the throne, he would be more of a threat, possibly even resurrect the Heinrichian concept of Executive Primacy. Since the Throne was outside the direct influence of the Order, this was viewed warily.

Siegfried was viewed as an unknown quantity with less of a power base than Hans. He was deemed less of a threat. Still the Order didn't lead the charge on this one, rather different members questioned both claims to cover all the bases. We did however end up backing Siegfried.

In hindsight, this was a poor decision. Certainly ranking with helping get Chancellor Hummel elected. Of course much of Siegfried's more disastrous decisions were dictated to bring forth the Cataclysm, since Ituralde was leaving the game anyway.

Of course the headache of tracking a royal line separate from the game's might have factored in too.

Edit: In hindsight, I've always been amused that it was Matthias, considering future events, that arranged Siegfried's marriage to Theodora. Odds were even that the Kaiser would have ended up married to the English Princess.

[AussieGiant]

GH, I assume you didn't like the guy because of the amount of in Diet pressure I was trying to exert regarding the inequalities of the situation back then. Correct?

In my opinion the House armies where the real back breaker for the Kaiser.

What brought about the house armies initially was that everyone realised how helpless they where defending their own holdings without the ability to marshal forces and command them for local defense you where really in trouble.

GH's papal smack down was a precursor, to the precursor to the call for a Republic in my mind. It was the first edition of Kaiser's going and doing what they wanted with little regard for everyone else...very Kaiser like in my mind

What was a little unfair to me (and I was guilty of this), was using the Cataclysm lead in against the Kaiser's as it was scripted OOC. Having said that GH's Pope smacking was always a great reference point of IC Kaiser semantics leading us to oblivion.

[gibsonsg91921]

Yo Illuminatoes:

Did the Illuminati like or respect Peter at all other than his hellbent drive to snuff them out, bearing in mind that Peter was within his power until he had an invisible demonic society that ate babies against him?

[AussieGiant]

Yo Illuminatoes:

Did the Illuminati like or respect Peter at all other than his hellbent drive to snuff them out, bearing in mind that Peter was within his power until he had an invisible demonic society that ate babies against him?

God I really should have gone the whole hog with Arnold...channeling, scrying, sacrifices to the pagan gods for his invincibility in battle etc etc.

And unfortunately Gibbo, GH is correct. We could not have asked for a better Kaiser at the time...of course that was to further our own ends not anyone else's.

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Did anyone think Arnold wasn't evil? That goes for all the guys inside the Order too. Was he regarded as the arch typical "bad guy" or something a little more than that?

And just to make me feel a bit better, I assume that wasn't 'bad' from a role play perspective. Did anyone enjoy him?

[Privateerkev]

Did anyone think Arnold wasn't evil? That goes for all the guys inside the Order too. Was he regarded as the arch typical "bad guy" or something a little more than that?

And just to make me feel a bit better, I assume that wasn't 'bad' from a role play perspective. Did anyone enjoy him?

Jan was convinced that Arnold was "evil" but not in any supernatural sense of the word. Since Jan had stabbed Arnold a few times, Jan knew that Arnold was very much human.

As for how he was played, he was quite enjoyable to interact with. Once we figured out how to keep contact with each other OOC, interacting IC was a real treat.

[gibsonsg91921]

I get the sense that Peter was really kind of a Biff Loman character. Anyone else?

[Cecil XIX]

Did anyone think Arnold wasn't evil? That goes for all the guys inside the Order too. Was he regarded as the arch typical "bad guy" or something a little more than that?

After the Hummel incident, Sigismund definitely didn't think Arnold was evil. Edmund always respected him as one of the Reich's most reasonable and wise rulers, and was very dissapointed to learn he was the Grand Master of the Illuminati.

Incidentally, did Sigismund really come off as groveling when he apologized to Arnold? He was actually pretty happy when he wrote that.

[AussieGiant]

After the Hummel incident, Sigismund definitely didn't think Arnold was evil. Edmund always respected him as one of the Reich's most reasonable and wise rulers, and was very dissapointed to learn he was the Grand Master of the Illuminati.

Incidentally, did Sigismund really come off as groveling when he apologized to Arnold? He was actually pretty happy when he wrote that.

That's good to hear Cecil...both from Sigismund and Edmund's point of view.

I can't remember what that apology was exactly about? Can you provide more details?

[Northnovas]

Yes the mercy rule. I think I was one of the first characters releasing prisoners and for the early game it kept AI armies around. I was trying to purposely build a character with chivalry rather then dread.
I was planning to always use the mercy rule I think seeing it legislated was the bug personally so in that sense there was no pretending.

[GeneralHankerchief]

GH, I assume you didn't like the guy because of the amount of in Diet pressure I was trying to exert regarding the inequalities of the situation back then. Correct?

Pretty much.

Yo Illuminatoes:

Did the Illuminati like or respect Peter at all other than his hellbent drive to snuff them out, bearing in mind that Peter was within his power until he had an invisible demonic society that ate babies against him?

Not really, since you were actually doing exactly what we wanted you to do.