Preview: The Boii

[moonburn]

amazing work ^^ so the naked spearman and gaesatae will most likely be one of their units considering their regions map and the batle of telamon

the lack of cavalery seems a bit troubling but i guess i will just have to wait for the other 2 previews (note i haven´t seen the video yet)

as for the boii empire one can remember brennus when he went to delphi who created alot of small celtic kingdoms in the balkans so the empire can refear to conquering the regions with keltic populations in it such as scordasci tyles transalpine gaul and ofc the alps (or even going all the way to galatia and reuniting the eastern celtic population into a powerfull confederation)

will the boii be able to build 2nd tier mines or just the basic mines ? i mean if they can build 2nd tier mines considering their previledged position to take over the alps and the balkans they will be in no time a true superpower with all the metals coming from the balkans and the alps and thus the richest faction in the game in less then 60 turns for a decent general (and all of this without the need for trading ports nonetheless)

one small remark ... lusitania and therefore lusitanian was not a celtic language

i got the boi right now lets see if the belgiums and the celtiberians will be included ^^ i suspect western europe will be one hell of a interesting place to be in only problem is that if the belgiums appear then the chattii won´t most likely

[Khazar_Dahvos]

great preview i had a feeling the boii would be included!!! Cant wait to see if another or two more new celtic factions are going to make an appearance!!!

[Glewas]

Noticed that the carnyx blower's helmet is a little odd:

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I think I've seen the "horn" part before in a text that I have buried away, but I did find something that is similar:

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I've not seen anything in regards to Celtic helmets with such a protrusion in the back however...

Can anyone share some info, or will that be part of an upcoming preview?

[Tux]

Noticed that the carnyx blower's helmet is a little odd:

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I think I've seen the "horn" part before in a text that I have buried away, but I did find something that is similar:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Can anyone share some info, or will that be part of an upcoming preview?
I've not seen anything in regards to Celtic helmets with such a protrusion in the back however...

A little?! It's a freaking xenomorph with hundreds of matrioskas heads:


As a side not, that is not the carnyx for the boii which will feature a bull that has been done recently and it's the britsh carnyx that was used as a template. In conclusion each celtic faction will get they own carnyx.

[anubis88]

Well this helmets are really insane... Had i've not seen the evidence that they existed, i would think it's a vanilla thing :)

[MeinPanzer]

A little?! It's a freaking xenomorph with hundreds of matrioskas heads:


As a side not, that is not the carnyx for the boii which will feature a bull that has been done recently and it's the britsh carnyx that was used as a template. In conclusion each celtic faction will get they own carnyx.

So is this the helmet for all Celtic carnyx-players, or will the different factions get helmets with different decoration? Not to nitpick, but the Tintignac finds are unique to France, whereas something like the Ciumesti helmet might be more appropriate for an eastern-Celtic unit.

[Tux]

Where did I say it will be for all the factions?! It will be used accordingly by the correct factions.

[eddy_purpus]

I am loving this Faction selection !


Thanks F0ot And EB...
You are making my days happier than ever :3

[BerkeleyBoi]

Looks really good! Thanks for the preview!

[athanaric]

Where did I say it will be for all the factions?! It will be used accordingly by the correct factions.

Given the region where it was found, would it be more appropriate for Arverni or for Aedui?

[TheTank]

Guys,
The Tintignac helmet is just a place holder.
The Boii helmet is just not made yet.

[Tux]

Given the region where it was found, would it be more appropriate for Arverni or for Aedui?

Yes, exactly. With carnyx that was found with.

[bobbin]

the lack of cavalery seems a bit troubling but i guess i will just have to wait for the other 2 previews (note i haven´t seen the video yet)

Two cavalry units are shown in the preview.

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as for the boii empire one can remember brennus when he went to delphi who created alot of small celtic kingdoms in the balkans so the empire can refear to conquering the regions with keltic populations in it such as scordasci tyles transalpine gaul and ofc the alps (or even going all the way to galatia and reuniting the eastern celtic population into a powerfull confederation)

see this.

Really just a little poetic license- a reference to the Hallstatt homeland of all Celtic material culture that the Boii remained close to. 'Empire' is a bit of an exaggeration but sounds cool, and it's not like the Irish or Scots never embellish stories in the telling...

one small remark ... lusitania and therefore lusitanian was not a celtic language

Its debated a lot but little is known about the language, it was certainly Indo-European and the celts were the only indo-european tirbes in the area, it did have some noticable differences from celtic languages though.

[Knight of Ne]

Wow i have just read the preview and wow. We will finally get a faction to the north of italy and wow they look good. Thank you so much EB2 team, i think i have just fallen in love with the Boii.

Ne

[antisocialmunky]

Many wuvs 4 EB team.

[Power2the1]

amazing work ^^ so the naked spearman and gaesatae will most likely be one of their units considering their regions map and the batle of telamon

the lack of cavalery seems a bit troubling but i guess i will just have to wait for the other 2 previews (note i haven´t seen the video yet)

as for the boii empire one can remember brennus when he went to delphi who created alot of small celtic kingdoms in the balkans so the empire can refear to conquering the regions with keltic populations in it such as scordasci tyles transalpine gaul and ofc the alps (or even going all the way to galatia and reuniting the eastern celtic population into a powerfull confederation)

will the boii be able to build 2nd tier mines or just the basic mines ? i mean if they can build 2nd tier mines considering their previledged position to take over the alps and the balkans they will be in no time a true superpower with all the metals coming from the balkans and the alps and thus the richest faction in the game in less then 60 turns for a decent general (and all of this without the need for trading ports nonetheless)

one small remark ... lusitania and therefore lusitanian was not a celtic language

i got the boi right now lets see if the belgiums and the celtiberians will be included ^^ i suspect western europe will be one hell of a interesting place to be in only problem is that if the belgiums appear then the chattii won´t most likely

There was 2 naked units in EB1. I think theres 3 in EB2 in different geographical locations as having 1 or 2 covering all locales wouldn't work. The Gaesatae and the ritual naked guys are included but under Gallicized names, as well as another one that will probably be shown in a future preview.

As mentioned previously, there are 2 cvalry units shown in the preview, but theres going to be plenty of Celtic cavalry in EB2. The Celts were famous for their cavalry and equestrian abilities, so this is certainly an emphasis for EB2. Right now I think there are 5 different types, heavy, medium, and light cavalry, split between Eastern and Western Celts. More to come though!

The Cel;tic invasion/expedition/migration in Greece was a success and a failure. It depends on how you look at it. They failed in conquering Greec, if that was their aim, but succeeded in coming away with a lot of treasure, if one thinks Delphi was looted and treasure taken away by the Textosages to southern Gaul. Still, this resulted in the Galatians entering the history of Anatolia and the merc activity of the east was certainly a success there.

As for what they will build, thats not been decided just yet

The Belgae will certainly be represented in EB2!

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

The Belgae will certainly be represented in EB2!

Interesting..

[jazstl]

Great work!

Thanks.

[moonburn]

Interesting..

remember the respresented doesn´t include a faction per se altough it´s one of my big hopes that sentence hardly confirms the inclusion of the belgae if anything and analysing the teams behaviour prior to this (they abuse the desinformation agents aka as moros) it makes for a stronger case for the chattii being included (someone hates the sweaboz in here it seems )

The Cel;tic invasion/expedition/migration in Greece was a success and a failure. It depends on how you look at it. They failed in conquering Greec, if that was their aim, but succeeded in coming away with a lot of treasure, if one thinks Delphi was looted and treasure taken away by the Textosages to southern Gaul. Still, this resulted in the Galatians entering the history of Anatolia and the merc activity of the east was certainly a success there.

the books that i´ve read claim that the acheans or achaens had already pillaged the temples themselfs prior to the keltic invasion and used the kelts as an excuse for the treasure disapeiring

the scordasci and several other groups where partly celtic as was most of thrakia after the invasion so when we talk about a boii empire one as to presume they are refering to the areas where so many boii where present so the balkans northern italy and the alps are all places where the boii are always mentioned to have been and therefore one must consider those are areas as of a future boii empire and probably victory conditions for them (boiii empire would therefore constitute the balkans without the epirote dacian makedonian kallattis and kh lands being included all the way to the bosphorus strait and maybe even into galatia then the eastern alps and the eastern part of nothern italy)

the sweaboz are ofc screwed with this since now they have competition in their imediate area of influence and expansion and considering they are far poorer more then never a sweaboz player will have to make use of their forest advantage to survive the dacians will have a nice competition for them and the same for the sauromatae and depending if the boii make a push to northern italy or not a more interesting roman gameplay (one can even argue that maybe the boii could be given bologne with a type3 goverment or even type4 but thats for the team to decide)
another issue is the aulete illirians at this time their lands had been ravished by the boii previously so they are probably going to be an easy picking for them unleass an illirian faction shows up but if an illirian faction appears how would they be viable ? they where extremely weakened in terms of manpower even tough they piracy ports and expecially mines (dalmatia (L) ) make them economicaly viable so it might be viable with an extreme use and abuse of mercenaries

overall this a far better faction then many that managed to enter eb1 and will spice things tremendously ingame

[Arthur, king of the Britons]

remember the respresented doesn´t include a faction per se altough it´s one of my big hopes that sentence hardly confirms the inclusion of the belgae if anything and analysing the teams behaviour prior to this (they abuse the desinformation agents aka as moros) it makes for a stronger case for the chattii being included (someone hates the sweaboz in here it seems )

Lulz yeah I figured but it would make for a nice faction.

[Ludens]

There just doesn't seem to be any evidence of massive divergence- to the extent, of course, that there is much evidence at all. And we do have to consider that personal names might well persist longer than other parts of speech. But still, the Italian Boii aren't reported as speaking a language incomprehensible to the Senones, for example. The most divergent seems to be Celtiberian, at least in its written form.

The truth is there are many equally plausible scenarios. One critique to raise to my minimal divergence theory is how then is language congruency maintained?

Yes, that's what I was wondering about. Thanks for explaining.