Guide for Beginners on High Difficulty: Selling Military Access

[Maltz]

Sorry - important correction of the original post (now edited).

When an AI declares war on you while they have your military access, their units will NOT be bumped to the border of your provinces. There are still things we can do to prevent that from happening (please refer to the edited firts post).

[aimlesswanderer]

Hmm, I started doing this about 60 turns in, but I got the "unreliable ally" penalty with my ally the Ouichi. Not quite sure when it appeared though.

I made peace with the Ikko for $, then went to the Ouichi and offered to help them against the Ikko for 1k. I don't think I've done anything else to annoy them. Have always joined them when they declared, and they have joined me when people have come after me.

[Maltz]

Were you asked to choose between two allies when they go to war against each other? That could make you an unreliable ally for one of them.

But AIs love to break alliance without no reason. So the unreliable ally may be them, not you. Diplomatic relationship in Shogun 2 is the same number that goes both ways, so even if you are a saint to your ally, your ally may still hate you because it behaves like a jerk.

For example, when an AI attacks its ally, all clans in Japan acquire a big negative modifier "dishonor treaties" to the aggressor. I wonder whether Ouchi is a unreliable ally to some other clan, and somehow that penalty is now applied to you as well. Is Ouchi's relationship with other clans suddenly turning red, too?

[Fagar]

If the Ouchi were at war with Ikko and you too were at war with Ikko while holding an alliance with Ouchi, the minute you signed a peace treaty with Ikko would have caused the unreliable ally stat..
I would have thought that when you then resumed war with Ikko this does not negate the unreliable ally stat, as there is no diplomatic loading for this event.. especially considering it was a deal for Koku as well..That is pretty much a straight business deal..
In fact I would be interested to know if you got diplomatic minuses across the other clans for breaking the new found peace with Ikko?

[aimlesswanderer]

The Ikko declared on me (Mori), and the Ouichi joined me. The Ouichi have been allies with me all game, and have been very peaceful. I think that "unreliable ally" only appeared recently, and I recently started getting $ from making peace and declaring.

Don't think I got the penalty with any other clans.

[Fagar]

I just tested as similar a scenario as I could in my Oda campaign and yep my Takeda allies now see me as an unreliable ally..but none of the other allied clans have done the same..
So I guess it is a matter of weighing up the potential diplomatic penalties VS the Koku influx.. :-)