WoW....what a difference a day makes. Thanks to all who took time to respond. First, I've been doing custom battles for practice and ALLOWING the computer to set my formations. Second, I've been reading BUT not listening. Third, I'm using a laptop and finally figured out how to get some of the "keys" to work, especially for viewing. I just played a custom with the Gauls on their countryside. I picked more cav w/general and skipped the archers, scorpions etc. I put the hvy cav w/gen out on the wings and then I reformed my infantry with hastati in front w/ velites supporting. Then principes on the next line with triarii on each flank with one in the center for reserve. I made the gauls cross the entire field chasing my cav auxilia with some cat and mouse. The gaul cav chased my cav on the right wing which i pulled back and then turned to hit me flanks w/infantry but ran into my positioned triarii. I hit them from behind with the cav on that side and they all broke. In the center the hastati engaged his infantry with velite support and just about the time they were going to break I committed the principes with my left wing cav hitting their flanks. Finally I committed my triarii reserve and then let my general run around and kill isolated gauls. All in all, what a kick in the pants Then I saved it for re-play and watched it all over again. (I think the "p" key is going to get worn out but if thats what it takes to keep everything under control so be it) The only aggravating thing though, if you don't watch out some units take off chasing only to get isolated themselves and wiped out (ouch!) Now I battle (with a little too much micro managing) but save it and then view it. This thing is a blast...and the best thing...if your not careful...you might just learn something. Thanx