The AI makes me sick...

[Lazul]

Ok, i havent complained much.... but now i really feel like it.

Im playing as the germanians at the moment, as my selucid campaign was so easy that it was boring. As a selucid, you only need a few elephants... and you win.

But, as a germanian, I ended up being at war with, almost since turn 5; the Britts, Gauls, Sarmatians and Dacians.
I could estimate that i have ratio of loosing 1 warrior for every 10 enemy.

And, how come the Gauls, can raise 1 full stack army almost everyturn, and i have problem recruting a spear warband!? It is a bit confusing.

But, never mind that, its the AI that is driving me mad. I can hardly see any improvement in the AI since MTW.

Example one: When attacking a city or attacking an army, they allways use the same tacitc, it doesnt matter if they have a general or not, or how good he is. They never do anything unexpected and so on.
And even when they see that their tactic (wich they have used since battle #1) isnt working, they dont try anything different.

Example two: It is Impossible to get a cease fire!? The Gauls attacks, I crush them in battle after battle, i threaten 3 of their major cities and still they dont agree to a cease fire... a cease fire with no other demands.



Now, is it really that hard to program an AI with atleast some sense of logic!?

otherwise... great game!

[HopAlongBunny]

I think you will find it is pretty much constant warfare with Gaul and Britannia.

Julii will likely not lift a finger against their sworn enemy, and you will have to take the 2 teched up (Gaul) cities in Northern Italy yourself. Taking those cities will of course immediately put you at war with the Romans

Great faction once you get rolling

[Lazul]

I could live with the war against the west, when each faction im at war with brings in one new fullstack army Every turn, you start to wonder how they programed the game!? Where do they get their soldiers from!?

Another thing; If i have a big city, filled with 1 great general with 3 golden marks, 2 units of Gothic cav and a few infantry units.
Do they AI really think they can take that city with 4 units or warbands? Or is it a proven fact that Britts are suicidal by nature!?

[dismal]

In the same thread we can't complain that the AI has too many full stacks and never sends full stacks.

Credit where credit is due.

I just started a Germania campaign and it has been a challenge.

As many have reported, the Gauls and Britons came after me immediately. I drove the Britons off the mainland, and prepared to march on the Gaul's capital. But then I detected 2 full Gaul stacks moving up to Trier and 2 full Brit stacks with generals landing to take back their province.

I have 2 nice size spear armies that could deal with these guys rather easily if they'd just attack me, but they seem to either ignore me (Britons) or go right past me (Gauls) into my interior.

To make matters worse, I can now see 3 Scythian armies milling about my very thinly defended eastern provinces. I was able to quickly get an alliance with them, and hopefully it will hold.

Oh, and my cash flow just went negative.

Good times.

[HopAlongBunny]

hehehe

There are things that make you wonder...

I had much the same situation as you; early game I took Alesia and thrashed every army that came after me...so you wonder, if they lose every battle and lose cities constantly where is the money for these forester warbands coming from? (we won't even mention the navy) Let alone the money to tech up that high. This was the first faction that really pushed me into selling maps; to keep my head above water I had a diplomatic blitzkrieg going

Enjoy!

[Jambo]

Some complain the game's too easy, some complain about where the AI is getting all their stacks from. CA cannot win can they!

What difficulty level are you playing at? At H and VH campaign levels, I think the AI gets financial bonuses. Play on medium if you want an even playing field.

[Alexandr III. Biges]

hehehe

There are things that make you wonder...

I had much the same situation as you; early game I took Alesia and thrashed every army that came after me...so you wonder, if they lose every battle and lose cities constantly where is the money for these forester warbands coming from? (we won't even mention the navy) Let alone the money to tech up that high. This was the first faction that really pushed me into selling maps; to keep my head above water I had a diplomatic blitzkrieg going

Enjoy!

Hey, that's typical :) Usually I send three diplomats to make a big selling spree with my map And usually continue in future. I'd backrupt very quickly, especially on harder difficulties

And I'm sure AI is cheated to get more cash.

[Rurik the Chieftain]

Well when, playing the German campaign, Gaul seems to hate you bitterly, and the same goes with Brittania. They wouldn't sign a ceasefire if you had all but one of their cities captured and had that one under siege. As for the AI, there are some(okay, quite a few) bugs to work out, but I have definitely seen different armies using different tactics.

[m4rt14n]

Easiest way to play german is to sell all buildings, combine your stacks and take the two Italian Gaul cities. Leave the Germanian ones, they are useless..

[Maltz]

I haven't personally played as Germenia yet. In my experiences as other factions, Germenia is always top-3 billionaire and military guru, better than Egypt - don't know why really.

If you don't want to rush Rome, I guess you can try to rush and take out one secure corner first - that's Britania. Staying at the center needs a good financial support.

[Lazul]

Look, i know it sounds odd that i complain about AI attacking with full stacks and such... but where did the realism go? Do the AI get economic help from somewhere?
They raise armies like madmen. Im playing Medium by the way. And hard on the battlefield.

Gaul General: "ok men, the last 4368 armies we ordered to attack Alesia got slaughetered and the those that survived had no legs or arms. But Hey, maybe if we try it again they will give up".
Gaul Soldier: "dhuuuuuuu..."
Gaul General: "Thats the Spirit men! CHARGE!"
*Gaul army gets beaten badly as allways due to stupid tactics and so on*
Gaul General: "Crap, Right, well bring up the next army, maybe if we try the same tacitc again it might work!"
*Gaul officers nod and look retarded*

That kinda sums up the problem with the Gauls...

[Alexandr III. Biges]

Look, i know it sounds odd that i complain about AI attacking with full stacks and such... but where did the realism go? Do the AI get economic help from somewhere?
They raise armies like madmen. Im playing Medium by the way. And hard on the battlefield.

Gaul General: "ok men, the last 4368 armies we ordered to attack Alesia got slaughetered and the those that survived had no legs or arms. But Hey, maybe if we try it again they will give up".
Gaul Soldier: "dhuuuuuuu..."
Gaul General: "Thats the Spirit men! CHARGE!"
*Gaul army gets beaten badly as allways due to stupid tactics and so on*
Gaul General: "Crap, Right, well bring up the next army, maybe if we try the same tacitc again it might work!"
*Gaul officers nod and look retarded*

That kinda sums up the problem with the Gauls...

GG: "Well, we will attack the same way, becase they would surely not expect us to do use the same tactics for the tenth time!"

Iberian general: "What about attacking Carthage? They are very strong and have large armies, so they would not expect us to attack us!"

[m4rt14n]

Germans are like HRE. Awesome late troops, but real crappy economy. Turtle and you'll suffer. I'm guessing the AI Germans get help from the almighty.

[Mikeus Caesar]

when each faction im at war with brings in one new fullstack army Every turn, you start to wonder how they programed the game!? Where do they get their soldiers from!?

That annoys me too. They seem to raise an entire stack from nowhere. Like just now, playing as the pontus, the seleucids brought together all their little armies, and together they wouldn't have even made half an army, but somehow the entire stack filled up.

[jgp]

I agree there is something that is not quite right about the AI. Case in point: I was attacking a settlement, with two full stack armies, the second army led by an experienced general. This should have been a cake walk. However, when the second army entered the field of battle they marched right up to the walls of the settlement, stopped at about a 45 degree angle to the wall, and stood there while being shot down by the settlements archers. The general did not even deploy his seige towers. If this is not a case of complete dereliction of duty and incompetence I do not know what is! What is the point of bringing in 2 armies if the second one is just going to get slaughtered? It is a waste of men. Unless knowing that this will be the outcome, you fill the second army with throw away troops just to pin down some of your opponents while you make the main attack elsewhere on the fortification.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I've been playing H:TW recently, and the AI there seems very good, at least on the strategic level. The only odd thing was when a one island faction with 3-4 ships attacked my Macedonian empire. Of course, I crushed their pathetic fleet, attacked, burned their village and made slaves of their children.

Other than that, though, the AI seems pretty good. The Persians, for example, have over 30 full stacks which they use to attack and beat down their enemies. And of course, they also get the most money per year, due to their rich farming provinces. That's gonna be fun to take down, if even possible.

Crazed Rabbit