Out of character thread IV

[OverKnight]

Let me know if it works (if it does I'll put it in the Citadel FAQ).

Tried it out, and it didn't work. I had the army take the cross with the priests already in the stack, both the units and agents had not moved that turn. I used ctrl-A and the movement area did increase, but when I moved the stack it left the priests behind. I was curious and had the priests join the stack after they took the cross, but same result.

I tried it at sea, again everyone had full movement points, and ctrl-A did not increase movement area. When I disembarked the priest, the movement area doubled.

So this way in order to satisfy an edict and get Ulrich to the Holy Land in an expedient fashion, I'm going to have to dispatch two 5 ship fleets. Oh well, I guess we need a strong navy in the eastern med.

[econ21]

How do you change the turns to years on the main screen.

Delete the line "show_dates_as_turns" line in descr_strat.txt. The citadel FAQ should give location of file. This only works when starting a new campaign.

where does that leave the SHA?

I think the new Steward can decide who commands it.

Tried it out, and it didn't work.

Shame, but thanks for testing it.

[OverKnight]

In order to get Ulrich "crossed" and moving as soon as possible, my plan was to merge and streamline the SHA to 8 units, send the extras to Dijon, have Ulrich join the Crusade, pick up 2 Crusader mercs, and then embark him, in a few turns, at Genoa with the 5 ship fleet that's forming there.

A new SHA would be built at Staufen for inf and missles, with Innsbruck assisting with faster knights if needed.

[FactionHeir]

Well, it seems that the IsFactionLeader condition seems a bit bugged as it triggers weirdly and at times does not work at all. None of the other modders seem to know anything about it either, so I'll probably file it with CA as something to look into. For the time being, I know that Factionleader = 1 works for sure though, so I'll likely update the fixes to 1.22b tomorrow to change that and add a minor tweak to another two traits. Actually I could now, but maybe I'll think of something else still by tomorrow.
Stay tuned

[Warluster]

Just to let everyone know (And you OK in case of a battle)

I am going away for Saturday,Sunday and a lot of Monday. So if Jobst is involved in a battle then either OK can play it or xdeathfire.

[OverKnight]

Alright, Warluster, thanks for the heads up. xdeathfire would you be able to play a battle during that time?

@Ignoramus, any update on the save?

[Ignoramus]

Yes, I've just finished the battle. You were right, Ulrich is now stuck outside of Rheims. Which is a pain, as there's a French army loitering outside Paris which will probably attack next turn. Anyway, as long as I can get to Jerusalem ASAP, I won't mind.

[Warluster]

SO you killed the King?

Anyway, just a question. I am thinking of making a English PBeM, the rules will be overly similar to KotR, if not the same, anyone mind? And would anyone be interested?

[OverKnight]

Too bad you couldn't ransom the guy, we could have used the money. . .

Ignoramus, if you could get a casualty report to me, I'd appreciate it. Also it looks like there might be one more battle for this year, so if you want to reserve a spot in the battle reports thread, go ahead and do it.

Sounds interesting Warluster, but I've got my hands full at the moment.

[Warluster]

I tried making one like it before but it was deleted because everyone said to wait for this to finish, but KotR will continue for some time I guess, so I I got impatient.

And isn't it about time for a new OOC Thread? No.V?

[OverKnight]

Ituralde, Leopold has to finish off a 3 unit force of Venetian stragglers outside Ragusa, when would be a good time for you to do it?

[FactionHeir]

I thought we decided on no ransoming after econ gives the AI florins? Not laid out in edicts, but kind of cheap to just get the money back :p Like milking Russia early on.

[Warluster]

Does anyone mind if I use the FAQ from KotR?

[Ignoramus]

Is anyone annoyed OOC that I attacked the French? I thought that Ulrich was stuck, so that's why I put it in his story. When I loaded up the save and saw that he could move, I decided that to keep to the story I should attack.

Maybe I should have ransomed the prisoners, but the AI generally rejects large ransoms and it was more inline with Ulrich.

[OverKnight]

OOC, I'm not annoyed. . .the actions you took were in line with Ulrich's character and provided some drama to the PBM. Your timing could have been better, but the factors involved in that, reconciliation and a new found concern about Papal relations, were beyond your control. The choice to take Otto's offer and go to the Holy Land was intriguing, and I was surprised you accepted. Though I'm still confused as to why the Swabians just didn't ask for permission in the last Diet. . .

IC, well, I think you can figure that one out. . .

Edit: Ignoramus, if you want to include the letter Otto wrote you in your latest story, feel free to. I think it might give some context to your decision and bookend nicely with the exchange of letters that begun this scenario.

[TinCow]

Definitely not annoyed. Like OK, I'm confused by it all, but it has been interesting. I just hope you realize that the Crusade will be over long before you arrive in Jerusalem, so you'll lose the movement bonus and the trip could take a while.

[Ituralde]

Not annoyed at all! In fact I was kind of looking forward to have a warmongering Duke keep the Diet busy. It would have been nice to see how the Diet handles the situation and how much power it can actually exert over one individual, and the other way around too. How much can one guy do within the limits of the PBM. It would have spiced up the game nicely and I am little disappointed it ended so soon.

Of course, I guess it was the better decision IC and OOC all around for Ulrich to take the Chancellors offer.

[TevashSzat]

I can fight any battles over the weekend since I'll be stuck at my house for most of it

[Ignoramus]

Don't worry. Ulrich hasn't forgotten who made him yield or resign as Duke.

Don't be so sure of rushing to Jerusalem. I imagine that the Egyptians will have a fair few armies littered around the place.

[AussieGiant]

OOC I'm not upset at all.

The IC and OOC stuff has to be distinguished otherwise it doesn't work.

It spices things up and you can see that IC there was a ground swell of reaction to it. You can clearly see the point that being excommunicated is not a preferred option for most characters.

I don't have an avatar but in playing the Merchant Doge of Venice I just want to remain reconciled so I can make as much money as possible.

For other characters their piety plus a few other variable can usually determine how someone "should" act about this topic.

Plus you have to keep in mind that the TOP DOGS in the Reich are all pretty pious. That will usually bring the house down on someone's head :)

[OverKnight]

I have the save, there'll be some end of turn housekeeping, and then we'll proceed to 1188 shortly.

[FactionHeir]

Ignoramus, you actually didn't break any edicts so far ICly, so tbh resignation was overly hasty.
As I had asked earlier in the OOC topic, the edict only calls for not taking a settlement (i.e. besieging would be fine) and attacking the enemy on their soil is condoned as well as long as you do not get excommunicated.

[TinCow]

Yeah, I never would have pushed for Ulrich to 'resign' as Duke. If you want to figure out a way to revoke that resignation, I'm sure most of us will try to pretend it didn't happen.

[FactionHeir]

Does anyone mind if I use the FAQ from KotR?

Don't think its copyrighted or anything. But I also don't think many KOTR players will have time for multiple PBMs and imagining multiple avatar personalities at the same time. KOTR will maybe still last a month or so before its approx over, so maybe that would be a better time? Also, England is the easiest faction (and cheesy IMO) to play. Byzantium, Russia or Egypt could be quite fun on the other hand. Just my opinion.

[TinCow]

Does anyone mind if I use the FAQ from KotR?

I wrote it, so I suppose you're asking me. Nope, no problems with you using it at all. Do whatever you want with it. I'm happy it's useful.

[Stuperman]

I wasn't annoyed OOC, IC well you know...

I'm actually now trying to figure a way to make gerhard's last comments fit IC now lol.

it's 1186?

[FactionHeir]

So how come you didn't send our diplomat in Poland to Riga to seek out Talentus as I proposed? :p

Btw, you can use a wealth of other hosts besides imageshack. photobucket and imagevenue are two others.

[OverKnight]

As Telentus was not visisble with FOW on I didn't consider it sporting. Pisanus is visible with that watchtower Conrad built. It's more than a diversion, it's useful.

[OverKnight]

We've got two battles on the plate.

First, Kagemusha or Dutch_guy if he's back, it's time to assault Breslau. Check the Chancellor's report for my reasoning.

Second, FLYdude has a mid sized army of rebels north of Frankfurt to engage.

Whoever gets to it first, please post here and let the other guy know. Then post the new save so the second person can get to their battle.

I'm working tonight so I probably won't be back to the game until Saturday, so that's why I'm queuing things up.

Here's the save:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1188.zip

Good Luck

The latest updated Chancellor's report:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=114

[TinCow]

Patch 1.2 has been officially released. What are our plans for switching to 1.2 with this game?