Out of character thread IV

[GeneralHankerchief]

The Heinrich's death story is up.

[TinCow]

I agree that Gerhard Steffen should probably be the one sent againt the Popes. We've got to fight them whether we like it or not and he's the only one of the three who took down Gregory who's still in the Reich.

[StoneCold]

Econ, regarding the role of the Prince and Duke. If there is a conflict between holding the two positions, shouldn't the prince be allocated an imperial territory instead of remaining in the house as he is not a count of the house so the Duke of the house will have no hold over him?

[TinCow]

Being Prince has no conflict at all with being a Duke or a Count. I see no reason why the Prince would have to be the Duke of his house either.

[StoneCold]

in terms of IC, I would think no Crown Prince would be under a Duke in power or influence, right? How would the Duke be able to control the Crown Prince as a Count of his? In game mechanics I agree that there is no conflict.

[Stuperman]

econ was both a duke and heir wasn't he?

[TinCow]

in terms of IC, I would think no Crown Prince would be under a Duke in power or influence, right? How would the Duke be able to control the Crown Prince as a Count of his?

How can Prince Harry be given orders by his commanding officer? How was Charles given orders while he was in the military? There are plenty of situations in history in which royal family members are subject to the powers of others. Kings of small nations were often far less powerful than less nobles of great empires. Rank only has value when others acknowledge it.

On another issue, the biography battle statistics are getting out of hand. I don't have the time to update them and the longer I wait, the bigger the job gets. If someone would like to help out and figure out what the current stats should be, I would be grateful. If not, I'll probably just remove them from the Bios.

[TevashSzat]

Hey people, i haven't been on that recently due to some computer issues and this is the first time that I have been able to access a computer with internet access. I will probably not be very active for the next five days or so depending on how fast I can get my comp to work and get back on the internet

[flyd]

It is unfortunate that we, for some reason, dropped the practice of keeping battle results in a table. It only took a bit of effort for the reigning player, and allowed all sorts of interesting statistics to be compiled.

[Stuperman]

Hey, TC I'd gladly help, just lemme know what I can do.

[AussieGiant]

It certainly seems as if House Swabia is on the rise.

I wonder if it will all go to a few peoples heads in that house :)

Hey TC,

Would it not be better to just use a win-loss column rather than actual casualties percentages? It`s just a thought to reduce the large amount of time you need to do that.

[Ignoramus]

That's a good idea AussieGiant. Although the casulties list is nice, I don't think much is lost if it goes and it saves a lot of work.

Concerning Swabia - Swabia was always going to be the best Duchy. The Imperial line runs through her noble House, and hopefully Jobst will have a son come of age before he dies.

[Ignoramus]

Econ, isn't Staufen Swabia's capital? I thought the capital stayed with the Duke/Steward? If I'm wrong, could someone please correct me?

[Stuperman]

good point, a win loss column and maybe a screen shot of the 'butcher's bill' for heroic victories? actual kills/losses would be nice, but I think the work needed wouldn't be worth the value to the PBM

[Warluster]

Well Jobst has some 30 yeras left in him, I am sure a son will come soon!

[econ21]

Econ, isn't Staufen Swabia's capital? I thought the capital stayed with the Duke/Steward? If I'm wrong, could someone please correct me?

Good point - I forgot about that. I'll have to change Hans's title in the Duchy of Swabia thread.

[FactionHeir]

Now I got the backwater town of Bern, listed as the lowest priority in the build topic ...how my father appreciates me :p

[StoneCold]

That's why Hans has to go on the Crusade to get a better town... :P

[FactionHeir]

Well, the problem would then be as a count he cannot have more than 1 town according to the rules :p maybe Henry wants the holy towns all for himself!!!

Anyway, I was thinking along the lines of "I wait 30 turns to come of age as the emperor's son and all I got was this lousy backwater town" :D [you know, those t-shirts you get in london as a tourist]

[TinCow]

Well, you're the Count of Bern now. You get to pick the build queue, so make it the most glorious city the world has ever seen!

[FactionHeir]

Actually the current build queue for Bern is the one I suggested back when econ first posted it :)

[Ignoramus]

Well, you needn't worry about Bern being a poor city. Chances are you'll be give a much better city in the Holy Land.

[FactionHeir]

Just for the record, I'm not upset at all OOC, I just found it funny as in the quote explanation above.

And again, you can only be count of one settlement ;)

[econ21]

I don't understand why M2TW does not follow primo genitur fully so that Hans would be the Prince. I tried to give Hans Staufen as a consolation, but as Ignoramus pointed out that was against our character. Still, he is a Count at 16, which is something. Generally, I think titles - and settlements - should be earned to make them more interesting for role-playing reasons. But the Emperor's oldest son does deserve something as of right.

[OverKnight]

Has a decision been reached about the assignment of Conrad? I want to get him into a battle so we can get him knighted. I may be an absentee landlord, but I still care.

[FactionHeir]

According to a post I read the other day you can force who becomes leader if you use the give/remove_trait commands for exheir and factionheir and then kill the present leader. I haven't actually tried to verify that. Oh well, maybe with 1.2 out some day there'll be a modding opprtunity.

[FactionHeir]

Has a decision been reached about the assignment of Conrad? I want to get him into a battle so we can get him knighted. I may be an absentee landlord, but I still care.

GH is Conrad. At least unless someone else in Bavaria claims him in the next 9 hours.

[StoneCold]

BTW, with the death of Kaiser Henrich, are you guys still excommunicated?

[FactionHeir]

Yup as we are at war with the papal states.

[OverKnight]

Because we were at war with the Papal States when Heinrich died, no reconciliation took place when the Faction Leader passed on.

Excommunication drags on, despite our pre-war intelligence. So much for the Reich being greeted as liberators. . .