Out of character thread IV

[TinCow]

Heh, I got it off of Filefront, didn't even need a torrent.

[AussieGiant]

I was being a little "tongue in cheek" there econ.

Have the 2handed bug and the shield bug been fixed in this version?

[OverKnight]

I uploaded the save, the money has been added, Leopold is set to attack the Hungarians, but no other changes have been made from the original 1180 save.

I'll PM Ituralde with the same info from this post and my last one.

Expect IC stuff after the polls have closed, I've woken up and I've had some coffee.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1180-2.zip

[econ21]

I was being a little "tongue in cheek" there econ.

I know, it's just as a forum staffer, I did not want to appear too piratical.

Have the 2handed bug and the shield bug been fixed in this version?

Yup - that's why I spent 24 hours downloading the thing on torrent! It's probably better in other respects too, but those were the two bugs that had stopped me playing M2TW solo.

[AussieGiant]

I know, it's just as a forum staffer, I did not want to appear too piratical.



Yup - that's why I spent 24 hours downloading the thing on torrent! It's probably better in other respects too, but those were the two bugs that had stopped me playing M2TW solo.

Two very good points as usual econ.

The fact that both those bugs have been ironed out may have me do the same next week when I get back home.

I have all but forgotten that you are a mod...is that a bad thing?

[FactionHeir]

Actually antitraits are fixed too.

I don't really mind waiting for the official one as I can't be bothered to reinstall etc since I get my new laptop (well new as in ordered in January) in two week's time.

In the meantime I'm mainly using 1.2 files for campaign and battle AI and stuff. Not that there has been much change.

Btw, I plan to get a new fix version out by saturday or sunday. Exams finish tomorrow.

[edit]
Btw, edit 7.3 is much more radical than edict 7.2 after some review. It allows "any means" to achieve reconciliation. Only limiting factor is the charter but since we are already excommed, there is nothing in the way of papal whacking. Heinrich would love that edict haha.
Hmmm on second thought, Heinrich actually proposed it!

Oh, and that means: could someone edit my vote for 7.3 to be yes instead of no? :)

[GeneralHankerchief]

Heh, I meant nothing of the sort when I proposed it. Seriously.

[Ituralde]

Battle is fought and won, give you fresh start in the morning Overknight!

The Battle report is up too along with another one. Now the only one missing is the Fall of Budapest.

[OverKnight]

Alright, a good start Ituralde.

Let me get some caffeine and I'll take a look at the new save and post IC.

Stuperman, when would you be available to bring the fury of the Empire down on the Venetians?

[Stuperman]

Asap, definately tonight (well noght for me) , next 4-6 hours would be perfect, then I'll be out of commission for 24/36 hours.

[OverKnight]

OK, I'll upload the save now. I'll send you a PM with the details. IC stuff can wait a bit (I'm writing my address to the Diet as we speak).

[AussieGiant]

Asap, definately tonight (well noght for me) , next 4-6 hours would be perfect, then I'll be out of commission for 24/36 hours.

No pressure Stuperman!!

That's my brand spanking new city you're protecting there so "No pressure" , just win baby!!

I'll Fedex you some beer if you toast em!!

[OverKnight]

Of course Stuperman went offline as soon as I posted the save and PMed him. I'm sure he'll be back.

Oh well, this just gives me more time to assemble my diabolical plan for world domination.

The best part of being Chancellor? I don't have to post build queues.
The worst part of being Chancellor? I have to sort out everyone else's build queues.

AG, I guess the good thing about not having an avatar is that you're invulnerable, i.e. you can't die in battle.

[AussieGiant]

Of course Stuperman went offline as soon as I posted the save and PMed him. I'm sure he'll be back.

Oh well, this just gives me more time to assemble my diabolical plan for world domination.

The best part of being Chancellor? I don't have to post build queues.
The worst part of being Chancellor? I have to sort out everyone else's build queues.

AG, I guess the good thing about not having an avatar is that you're invulnerable, i.e. you can't die in battle.

This is true OK, but I don't remember the last time a character died in battle...do you? :)

I'm sure barring a shock development Stuperman will pound the Venitians to pieces with between 20 to 40% casualties based on how well he did.

Damn to I want Arnold to "Come of Age"

I think the little punk is about 6 now. Is that right OK? Personally I can't believe I'm going to play a character from Austria call Arnold. That is funny as hell for me.

[Ignoramus]

My PM box has space now OverKnight.

[OverKnight]

@AG, the odd aging mechanics are confusing but I think Arnold will come of age in 20 turns.

A long time to wait but then he can answer the question "What is best in life?" by replying, "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of the women!"

[AussieGiant]

God that is still a long way away.

I guess that is halfway through your Chancellorship...or is that in the next Chancellors time?

[OverKnight]

The end of the next Chancellor's term . . .you might want to consider a temp avatar if one becomes available.

[Stuperman]

won the battle, took TONS of prisoners, executed them, didn;t think we needed the money, and didn;t want a half stack of venetians wandering around.

save:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1180-5.rar

[OverKnight]

Good Job Stuperman, I guess the Reich is not in a charitable mood this year .

I'm taking back the save. I don't think there'll be any more battles this year but we'll see.

Off to negotiate with the Pope.

[Warluster]

If someone was to attack and take Marseilles (sp?) will it go to Swabia?

[Warluster]

Anoter question:

OverKnight, can I assemble a army and attack Rheims.

I know its against the Imperial Diet, but it could be the next big 'scandal' of the game, adding a touch of flavour. SO can I attack RHeims?

[Ignoramus]

Warluster, I don't think it would be wise for you to go against the Diet.

Because:

You're the Prinz. When Henry eventually dies, you will become Kaiser. This means than not only do you get more influence in the Diet, but you also get to dictate who gets what settlement. You don't want to get yourself killed trying to storm Rheims. Not only because of yourself, but for Swabia. Currently, Swabia holds the Imperial line. Now as Duke of Swabia, I have no desire to see the line go to another Duchy. Just think, if you have heirs, then your legacy will be complete.

[OverKnight]

Warluster, who was the last head of the Swabian Household Army? That might effect what you can do.

Why don't you and Ignoramus hammer something out. The Swabians have a super-secret bat cave that the rest of us aren't privy to, why don't you use that? Usually rebellion isn't planned in the open.

This is karma getting back at me for Otto going on that adventure with Heinrich. Oh for the days when I was a conspirator. . .

[Warluster]

Darn it, moan moan whinge whinge

Okay.

ANd how about the MArsellies thing?

[Ignoramus]

Don't worry, I can't afford to rebel. I'm not a simple elector anymore. A Duke has too much to lose.

[Ignoramus]

I just had an idea. It is actually to possible to have a sort of civil war.

If, for example, Conrad Salier wanted to rebel, then he could "rebel"(by posting in the Diet thread) and then he would simply dictate his movements(or ask the Chancellor for the save game and move himself). If he encountered a "loyal" army, you could organise a multiplayer game with as close as possible to the real armies present. Then the Chancellor disbands the relevant units from the two armies. If an avatar dies, the Chancellor could use the cheat to kill an avatar, thus in some way representing a civil war.

What do people think?

[OverKnight]

I have completed 1180, I have not pressed end turn in case I've missed something.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...2&postcount=94

I will continue on tonight.

[AussieGiant]

Hi Ignoramus and Warluster,

My suggestion is to do this by Private Mail between just the two of you.

There is a fairly robust set of mechanisms in the game to let you two scheme away and determine what YOU both think everyone would do and plan accordingly.

You could ask GH by PM as he was a master. Keep in mind he was the Kaiser though

Asking about the idea "out in the open" like this just lets other groups get the jump on you.

Keep in mind you have role play this based on your characters for the best results in the game.

And a final warning. This game has a number of strong personalities involved so things might not go the way you plan it. Given the governmental charters in place you need to know your stuff if you want to do something like this, because you could find yourself on a boat to Western Africa.

Have fun

[Warluster]

Darn it, now I realise my mistake! Well anyway, its out of the picutre easily now.