Out of character thread IV

**econ21** · 05-01-2007, 09:21

Is it possible to conduct diplomacy at sea? If the Pope is on a boat, could we sail a diplomat to ask him for a crusade on Jerusalem?

Come to think of it, do you even have to have a diplomat in contact to call a crusade? Can't you just go to the Pope tab and click on the call crusade button?

**Warluster** · 05-01-2007, 09:23

Yah, just go to the Pope-o-meter screen and ask.

**Ignoramus** · 05-01-2007, 09:28

Originally Posted by econ21

Is it possible to conduct diplomacy at sea? If the Pope is on a boat, could we sail a diplomat to ask him for a crusade on Jerusalem?

Come to think of it, do you even have to have a diplomat in contact to call a crusade? Can't you just go to the Pope tab and click on the call crusade button?

Coming to think of it, OK should have called a Crusade before the "recent events".

**OverKnight** · 05-01-2007, 09:42

No worries, even at 6/10 on the pope-o-meter we weren't going to get a crusade. Also I wanted to wait until a turn until the army stuck in Nicaea's zone of control could move again. If we do get an official crusade, I'll have to start worrying about movement and desertion more than I have been.

We have to wait anyway for the Pope to make landfall before we can grease the wheels.

Edit: There's a button in the Pope window where you can request a crusade, it's not a diplomatic action, though gifting florins is.

**econ21** · 05-01-2007, 10:11

Originally Posted by OverKnight

No worries, even at 6/10 on the pope-o-meter we weren't going to get a crusade..

Are you sure? What standing is required to get a crusade?

**Warluster** · 05-01-2007, 10:15

shrugs

Put it this way: Really high.

**Ignoramus** · 05-01-2007, 10:31

Anything above 7 guarentees you a Crusade. The only annoying thing is if the Pope stays on board his fleet.

**FactionHeir** · 05-01-2007, 11:43

You need 8 or higher. Sometimes even 9. Depends on who you call a crusade, as the pope's relations with that nation do play a role, as does your reputation.

Only way to currently raise our relations with him is by building massive amounts of churches and train priests or do papal missions. Diplomacy is not an option until he makes landfall or we can find the papal diplomat (Talentus Arlocti)

**TinCow** · 05-01-2007, 12:18

You can't ask for a Crusade unless you are at 6/10 or higher, so as of right now, we no longer have the option. I think we may have had a good chance at getting the Crusade at 6/10 though, because we would have asked for Jerusalem. That's one of the Pope's preferred targets and it's held by a Muslim faction, things that significantly lower the bar.

All theoretical at this point though. At this point, by the time we track down the Pope, get a diplomat to him, give him money, and wait for the reputation to rise, we'll be almost all the way there.

[edit] I am wrong. I just loaded up 1184-1 and requested a Crusade against Jerusalem. It was rejected. In fact, I tried every single possible target, and they were all rejected. So, no big loss.