KotR Out of character thread VI

[FactionHeir]

Normally children spawn in the father's stack or in the town of the region he is in. If the father is dead, they tend to spawn at the capital. That mechanics is going a bit wacko in M2TW between patches.
And I still think you ought to really join this PBM :D

[GeneralHankerchief]

I swear, TinCow, you have got to stop switching sides on me. First, Heinrich loses an ally in Mandorf, and now when Conrad thinks he's going to get some support, old Max dies and is reincarnated in the form of his opponent's son.

[FactionHeir]

Haha, GH is doomed to getting backstabbed :)
I think TC's new avatar RP is like Mandorf in his younger days? Seems quite impulsive to me. Strong language no less and crude humor. Except his avatar does not have the Lewd/Feck/Rabblerouser traits. Well, not yet.

[TinCow]

ROFL, sorry. It's not personal. Lothar is 16, he's got a Mentor AND a Tutor, plus Chivalrous Father and Proper Morals. Seems like a kid who's grown up as a spoiled brat with a silver spoon up his butt. Add on Deep Pockets, Born Conqueror, and more command stars than most people end their lives with, and you've got the perfect recipe for a kid who hates schooling, loves swords and just wants to fight anything and everything. Now if only I could get him a drinking trait... The brothel line will have to be a priority in my province.

One of these days I'm going to get my hands on an avatar with an insanity trait. THAT will be fun.

Don't worry about him going Mandorf. I don't expect a religious awakening of any kind.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Actually, he sounds a lot like a young Heinrich.

[FactionHeir]

Well, for Drink just end in a town with brothel or higher. Or camp at near full MP in the wilderness. Sadly, Insane and Deranged can not be gotten post coming of age except by suffering a lot of assassination attempts... hm....that might actually be an avenue for more triggers....

[FactionHeir]

Btw TC:

On the word "hi" from etymology

greeting, 1862, Amer.Eng. (first recorded reference is to speech of a Kansas Indian), originally to attract attention, probably a variant of M.E. hy, hey (c.1475) also an exclamation to call attention. Extended form hiya attested from 1940.

I just found it kind of odd when you closed in the diet with the sentence "Hi, dad"

[gibsonsg91921]

hey

my character is maximillian von tyrolia, a merchant, right now, but i just installed patch 1.2. is there a general avatar that i can get, preferably in austria? if theres none in austria now but there's some coming soon i can wait and get one. if theres none coming soon at all in austria im not picky, ill take one from anywhere.

do i need a mod?

[TinCow]

Btw TC:

On the word "hi" from etymology

greeting, 1862, Amer.Eng. (first recorded reference is to speech of a Kansas Indian), originally to attract attention, probably a variant of M.E. hy, hey (c.1475) also an exclamation to call attention. Extended form hiya attested from 1940.

I just found it kind of odd when you closed in the diet with the sentence "Hi, dad"

I'm not trying to mimic early Middle Ages Germanic language, nor have I seen anyone else attempt to do so in any serious manner. Mentally translate "Hi" into whatever would be appropriate for the time period. Yes, it is odd, but that was the point. I thought I knew everything when I was 16, even though I was an ignoramus. Lothar struck me the same way, and I wanted to end the post with a reminder of just how much of a child he is. I simply can't see a 16 year old who needs a full time Mentor and Tutor spewing out some immense dissertation on global pan-religious politics. I'm going to do my best with Lothar to NOT argue like a lawyer in the Diet, since I know that pervades my posts even when I do not intend it to. If I could revise it, I would change it to "Hi Father" or perhaps "Greetings Father" if you prefer a different word.

[AussieGiant]

Fantastic TC. Otto's gotta be wondering what the hell is going to happen to Bavaria once he's gone!!!

[OverKnight]

If you've read the latest in the Bavaria thread, Otto is wondering just that.

Of course once he shuffles off that mortal coil, I'll be part of Bavaria's callow youth movement. This all depends, however, on my next avatar's attributes.

Though with Otto, I've got so many now, it's hard to keep track. I've sacrificed some accuracy for consistency in the character.

[econ21]

is there a general avatar that i can get, preferably in austria?

Yes, no problem - you can have Erhart von Mahren:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=24

do i need a mod?

Just factionheir's traits files - check out the first post in this thread.

[Ituralde]

Yes gibson, go ahead, we need to get those von Mahrens assigned.

Also a warm welcome to Cecil XIX, you chose wisely to join the glorious House of Austria!

[econ21]

I've updated the playlist table to the best of my ability:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...81&postcount=1

Please let me know if you spot any errors, as I will be using the influence in that table to weight tomorrow's votes.

I will be moving Pharnakes to the inactive player list and freeing up Elberhard unless he votes tomorrow.

[FactionHeir]

Btw, that reminds me. Does the emperor only control princess marriages or also other marriages? So I know if I need to ask before accepting offers during the term (if noone stands against me that is...)
And shouldn't Warluster get +4 Inf? (2 from traits, 1 from count, 1 from prince)

[edit]
Oh, and TC, that quote was meant to be light hearted, not dead serious.

[econ21]

Does the emperor only control princess marriages or also other marriages?

Just princess marriages.

And shouldn't Warluster get +4 Inf? (2 from traits, 1 from count, 1 from prince.

I think that's what I've given him.

[FactionHeir]

I keep mixing up Ignoramus and Warluster for some reason and can't seem to read today. Sorry

So who has the say on normal marriages? The parties involved or only the chancellor?

[econ21]

Basically, the way I see it, the Chancellor decides everything unless there are exceptions in the rules and imperatives in the edicts. That said, players are free to PM the Chancellor with ideas and instructions - nine times out of ten, I suspect the Chancellor would be happy to oblige. But players can't expect the Chancellor to stop play and consult them - they have to be proactive.

[FactionHeir]

Alright, cheers for the info

[econ21]

So that the next Chancellor can hit the ground running, governors should now post build queues for their settlements and Dukes provide standing orders for their household armies. If they aren't posted by the close of voting, the Chancellor will have a free hand...

[Ituralde]

@econ21:

Arnold is now Count of Budapest. There currently is no Count of Venice.

[gibsonsg91921]

sweet thx

but wouldnt that mod only really affect the chancellor? or can i not play if we're not on the same mod?

[FactionHeir]

When you play battles, the mod is important too so the correct trait effects are applied and you get the proper traits postbattle. Also sometimes you fight battles during the AI turn, and then the mod is even more important.

[AussieGiant]

Hi Econ,

How are you determining the position in the family tree for Austria?

Is marriage stronger than blood in this instance?

[FactionHeir]

Position in family tree is as in the library. Counting from left to right.

Btw, what's this thing about prince of antioch? I know that is Hümmel, but I don't understand the reaction of the diet to the latest report I just read?

[Ituralde]

It affects all Trait triggers. While it is most important for the Chancellor, if you fight battles and those battles would trigger Traits, this would not happen if you didn't have the mod installed. This could become extremely fatal, if a new turn started after your battle. Then it could also change the core game.
But why am I even writing this, FactionHeir can explain this ten times better!
Edit: And faster it seems...


I am really looking forward to the moment when Arnold will ascend to Duke of Austria. Will be interesting to see what will become of my precious Duchy.

[OverKnight]

Btw, what's this thing about prince of antioch? I know that is Hümmel, but I don't understand the reaction of the diet to the latest report I just read?

Kaiser Henry granted Ulrich the title for his bravery in the Battle of Antioch. It's part of the battle report near the end.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...3&postcount=69

I don't think it was mentioned in the Chancellor's report. I assume it is an honorific, much as Otto's title as King. There are no lands attached to either yet. That would change for Otto if CA 9.1 passes, and judging by CA 9.5 I envision that Ulrich seeks to have his position made official as well with Adana thrown into the mix.

[AussieGiant]

I am really looking forward to the moment when Arnold will ascend to Duke of Austria. Will be interesting to see what will become of my precious Duchy.

Come on dad!! It'll be fine!! Unless Lothar distracts me with beer and women I'll take all that pent up dread and unleash it on the eastern kingdoms.

[FactionHeir]

Ahhh thanks for the tip OK I didn't see his post in the diet.

[Stig]

I do think Austria is getting a bit overcrowded when it gets it's 3 new electors. Compare it to Franconia, which only has 3, 1 of which is on Crusade.

I'd say everyone who signs up should sign up for a character instead of for a duchy. It's more important to fill the slots.