KotR Out of character thread VI

[TinCow]

I've figured out a better solution, see the Diet. I get to command my own fate and the law isn't broken.

[econ21]

I've figured out a better solution, see the Diet. I get to command my own fate and the law isn't broken.

[OverKnight]

In the same vein, Lothar could get his 6 units to command, and the other units in any prospective battle, the garrison and the rest of the BHA, could come in as reinforcements under AI command (IC the seperate commands of minor nobles). This way we have Lothar leading his portion of the battle legally, while still not having overall command.

Edit: Just imagine Lothar cursing the stupidity of the other Imperial commanders while bailing them out and seething about why, WHY didn't they give him overall command.

[StoneCold]

Good way round the rule TC. and will make for a great battle and definitely a Knighthood. :)

[TinCow]

Yes, the garrison as reinforcements under the AI is totally legit. What's in the garrison, btw?

[gibsonsg91921]

genius TC

[OverKnight]

The Garrison is 5 units total:

Merchant Cavalry
Armoured Sergeants
Spear Militia
Town Militia x 2

[gibsonsg91921]

not a whole lot to work with - lets hope some of ol mandorfs skill isnt forgotten

[Stuperman]

hey, hey, BUSY weekend, and was out of town on fri so there has been limited updates form me, I'll be back sun night NA time.

[AussieGiant]

So what about my solution, I'm sitting picking my nose in Ragusa while TC is bending constitutional law as only he know's best

I NEED THIS GUY'S, I WANT THIS, I HAVE TO HAVE THIS

I'm off again in 1 week to Canada for 4 weeks. I wont be able to fight any battle's Arnold gets into myself in this time.

I have already received an agreement that Ituralde can fight for me...but I'm dying here. I've waited 5 months for an avatar and now I'm going to watching from the sidelines...

Ahh well,

[AussieGiant]

PS

I also would like to point out the army composition rule. With so many knights it is just unbalancing the already unbalanced situation further.

FH, I'm not saying this against you but just in general.

Maybe we need to pool all the avatars without people and plonk them somewhere as back ups.

[FactionHeir]

According to the rules travelling with unhistorical army composition is not a problem, only fighting battles is.
That said, my chancellor's report does state that Jobst is heading for Hamburg and bound to get reinforcements. When he does, he will have the proper number of knights as his overall army size increases.
As for the BHA, I was still considering how and if to let them fight. If Lothar's proposal is accepted, I'll split off a suitable composition of course.
Again, for the crusade, it was impossible to get more troops in time and they are on a ship currently. Composition will be changed once they land in Outremer.

Hope that clears it up.

Also, good note about the auto resolve knighting econ. Will keep that one in mind. Looks like we get to rewrite some charter at the next diet.

[AussieGiant]

I completely understand FH.

Cheers
AG

[econ21]

When I was Chancellor I was coming to the view that a full strength Household Army is a bit of overkill outside of full on war zones (ie outside of Rheims/Paris and Krakow). A smaller force such as Prinz Jobst's army is capable of handling most unexpected threats.

Where the enemy are less concentrated and we have to guard a larger area, it is probably a good idea to split up the Household Armies (ie the BHA and AHA), so that we have two half stack ones - they can draw on local militia where needed. They can guard twice as much territory (e.g. Bavaria could cover both Marseilles and Rome; Austria can cover both Budapest and Ragusa). As we knight more avatars that should be feasible and most players voted for two Household Armies a piece last Diet.

[Stig]

Stig, in the post and storyline, it was said that the AHA will be under Jonas until an Austrian can lead it, so nothing wrong with that. I agreed with AG, the troops and units from Ragusa can come in as reinforcement. Even if we follow the constitution of army should be lead by knights, we can just send in all the avatars bodyguard units. That way all could be knighted in one go.

I know, but Jonas was placed under the house of Austria, while he himself will always be a Franconian.

BTW didn't we vote against the small armies Franconia proposed in the last Diet. Would be strange to bring them back, wouldn't it?

And FH, shouldn't it be time to bring the young Franconian nobles to Franconia?

[StoneCold]

Stig, the vote was out because there was no maximum number of house army or imperial army the chancellor can make, only the minimum, at least one house army each.

The young franconian nobles are mostly down south, it will take a bit of time to move them north, I think FH was hoping to get Jonas to lead them north.

[FactionHeir]

What StoneCold said. Hopefully Jonas can get them all knighted or at least a few of them so those can get the rest knighted.
I'm not sure what to do about the unassigned Fritz von Kastilien yet. He's a good enough governor to keep one of the Italian cities from rioting and Bavaria lacks avatars on the west and south fronts. Having him there for even autoresolves would help at the moment. If the Duke of Franconia feels he wants Fritz to go north though, I can arrange that too.

[FactionHeir]

Due to the discovery of a major bug in CA's trait hardcode recently in the buglist, I have updated the fixes to version 1.25a. The only difference from 1.25 is that I disabled all NoGoingBackLevels for traits.

RAR format: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/KOTRfix125a.rar
ZIP format [only for 7 days]: http://download.yousendit.com/A19F7CD3597F02BF

[AussieGiant]

I just hope it gets sorted out

Once I'm knighted then Kag will be free to take those Franconian's nobles that are not part of Austria back up north.

I can then knight those that need to be using the AHA.

Then as econ suggests and something I realised previously (one of the reason's I voted for it) I will split the AHA in two and re-deploy with some of the knew knights.

Should I write this in the Diet FH or is this enough?

If I do, then Arnold's going to go banana's with all this bureaucracy

fix 125a installed!!

[FactionHeir]

You probably won't need to repost it. I was planning on splitting them anyway to cover south and east separately. Just need more knights for that.

[FactionHeir]

Hmmmm I just read the paragraph on household armies and noticed that contrary to popular belief, house armies actually are allowed to take more than 1 settlement per diet. It specifies in order 5 only the hostile action and that a settlement may be chosen as long as it borders the house and the empire is at war with the faction. Thus the SHA would be allowed to keep rolling through French territory in accordance to Xdeathfire's orders?

[Dutch_guy]

Hey guys, just a quick post to notify you all that I'll be fighting my battle some time today - probably around eight [20 00], as I've got some school work I really should be doing until then.

[Stig]

The exams have finished haven't they?
Or aren't you that far yet?

[Dutch_guy]

The exams have finished haven't they?
Or aren't you that far yet?

I'm in my fifth year, meaning my CS isn't until next year. That said, had I actually finished my CS I wouldn't be in such a coherent state now would I ?

[Stig]

heh good point

Wait till yer at University

[AussieGiant]

Hmmmm I just read the paragraph on household armies and noticed that contrary to popular belief, house armies actually are allowed to take more than 1 settlement per diet. It specifies in order 5 only the hostile action and that a settlement may be chosen as long as it borders the house and the empire is at war with the faction. Thus the SHA would be allowed to keep rolling through French territory in accordance to Xdeathfire's orders?

I think the point FH was to prevent this type of thing happening. Even though you found another loop hole, it is a stated fact that HA are meant to defend and not go rampaging through foreign lands not matter what highly paid legal eagle has found. :)

If people want me to find loop holes then there are a tonne, and we don't want to go in that direction do we?

[gibsonsg91921]

dang i wanted ehrhart to get knighted so i could do some battling!

o well theres bigger duties to do around prague, like sititng around scratching my butt

[Northnovas]

My city might fall?? Being away from home just logged on and reading the post without seeing the game is like being on a Crusade and getting dispatches from home and not knowing how it is going to workout!
Will the reinforcements arrive, who will lead???
I guess it's best this way because if I was there I wouldn't be capable to lead because I haven't been knighted and would be on the same frustration level of AG.

[FactionHeir]

Check one of the screens in my report Northnovas. You'll find the situation there.

[StoneCold]

FH, originally the house army commands are only to be given at the start of your term, so at most each duke could only specify one city to be taken in each diet.