KotR Out of character thread VI

[StoneCold]

Good Luck AG

TC, your story post sounds more like a glory hungry nut than a chivalric knight. If I am the senior commander in the battle, I would have lots of second thought about knighting you after seeing that display... :P

[TinCow]

That was the entire point of the story, StoneCold.

[OverKnight]

I liked the battle report TC, it certainly conveyed that even though Lothar is a skilled general, he's still a callow youth. If he was alive today, he'd be camped out at a spawn point pwning n00bs to max out his stats.

Hopefully as events progress he'll gain some wisdom, or at least some humility.

[Kagemusha]

I think what I'm gonna do is to mop up any French forces around Paris, swing up to Bruges, take it, and come back to defend before the French could react. Bruges is relatively isolated from most of the French so it shouldn't be that hard to take. Factionheir has mentioned taking Angers or Toulouse, but they seem to be surrounded by too many French territories and think it would be pretty hard keeping them.

Looks like that with the mongols in the Outremer, there are some pretty intense battles. Too bad I would be able to fight in any of them. Maybe the Timurids though, but I don't think this PBM will last until then

Why is Swabia constantly taking cities without so much as edict?

[Stig]

Good point Kage

Sides I think we should leave France alone and allow to rebuild. Otherwise this game is easely over, without having gone to the new world


I suggest giving cities back to France in exchange for peace.

[FactionHeir]

Swabia has taken 1 city this session which is Paris. What do you mean by constantly?
New HA orders are allowed as TC pointed out a few pages back.

[Kagemusha]

Swabia has taken 1 city this session which is Paris. What do you mean by constantly?
New HA orders are allowed as TC pointed out a few pages back.

Well isnt Paris enough for this Chancellor term? We are going fast towards the victory condition and i thought that allowing to conquer cities was a thing that should be decided in Diet.

[StoneCold]

Kag, I know what you mean, that's why I started that discussion a few days back, but was over-ruled... so maybe you can start a CA in the next diet to limit expansion again. :D

TC, I know that is the aim of your story, but if I am the chancellor, I would have difficulties justifying my decision to knight your avatar given the craziness of your action, other than your kill numbers... :P Maybe a provisional knighthood which will be confirm or strip in further campaign depending on performance? :P

[FactionHeir]

Well isnt Paris enough for this Chancellor term? We are going fast towards the victory condition and i thought that allowing to conquer cities was a thing that should be decided in Diet.

Any further conquest would be at the chancellor's disgression as to whether to continue old or take up the new orders. Considering Paris has loads of French stacks surrounding it, the prospect of taking another French city is rather low at the moment.

StoneCold: I was thinking of whether to knight Steffen or not. Provisional knighthood is actually a good idea. Need to think a bit more on that.

[TinCow]

TC, I know that is the aim of your story, but if I am the chancellor, I would have difficulties justifying my decision to knight your avatar given the craziness of your action, other than your kill numbers... :P Maybe a provisional knighthood which will be confirm or strip in further campaign depending on performance? :P

Not knighting him would be entirely justified and would work well with my story. I encourage it.

[FactionHeir]

Well, the BHA does need a leader though and while the taking of Sofia reduces the Hungarian threat somewhat, there are still loads of half stacks floating around and being trained at Bran.
I think I'm going to have to talk to Lothar's dad :p

[Stuperman]

If lothar's knighthood is just provisional, he can earn his full knight hood when we take out the Milanese. I realise that this is a bit away, I was hoping to have Corsica and Sardinia under siege by the end of FH's Chancellorship. I'll issue new orders to the BHA once the situation at Zegrab is under control. (I guess most of this could [should?] have gone IC, meh)

@GH is Henery had given up rome, Conrad and Gerhard might have found some common ground

edit: Just saw FH's post, hhmmm.....the milanese might have to wait....

[Ituralde]

Too bad! Should have taken the save yesterday to my thing with Leopold. Looks like it is harder to have im die in glorious battle than I thought.

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that two of our most chivalrous generals opt for the quite unchivalrous Night attack, while one of our most dreadful generals wants a chivalrous head on battle?

[FactionHeir]

Well night battles aren't necessarily unchivalrous. It saves lives and allows for further negotiations and peace instead of total annihilation;)
Charging headon against 3 stacks is also not chivalrous behavior towards those serving under you :p

[Ituralde]

The fun thing about it is, that after I had a look at the saves I came up with the exact same plan that econ21 proposed, where I attack from the South. Well so much for my brilliant surprise plan. Now all the glory will go to the Emperor.

I will reply in the Crusader Council and then I would like to download the current save and fight this battle, one way or another. Mabye I'll flip a coin to see how brave I'll be in the end.

Is this alright with you FactionHeir?

[FactionHeir]

So are you going with Henry's original plan or his modified plan that incorporates my suggestion?

[Kagemusha]

Good luck on the battle Ituralde! I hope Leopold comes out alive from it.

[Kagemusha]

Great battle Ituralde!You made defeating Mongols look very easy and its not.Edit: Great end for an great character.

[FactionHeir]

Fairly well fought. Maybe you should have gone by the first plan and taken all 3 at once.

[Ituralde]

Thanks!

It was great fun and I have to admit the real difficulty was to get Leopold killed during the battle. Also I couldn't let him die to early otherwise I'd loose for sure. The first one was quite difficult, while I found that battling Khan Jebuk is quite easy as he tends to rush at you. Aradai the Wrathful on the other just takes a nice defensive position and let's you have a go at it.

I uploaded the next savegame 1128-5 and also a Leopold save. It's just the last save where he's alive, maybe that's helpful for the Mausoleum or some such.

It was also a nice feeling to just execute 25000 florins worth of enemies.

And I urge everyone to try out the battle against all three stacks, did it for enjoyment at the end. It was wonderful. Just looking at the masses of soldiers comingt at you, fighting desperatly and then suddenly seein the horizon full of reinforcements. Looks like one of the armies arrived late and you had only been battling half of them.

Fun times!

[FactionHeir]

Hehe, fighting all three at once was fun. I think the worst about that was actually kerping toward the timelimit. Once Aradai was dead, all his reinforcement units were down to steady/shaken when they reached my lines, making them easily routable.

[gibsonsg91921]

geez now mainland austria is just arnold and sigmund von mahren

[Stig]

They gained 2, and now the lost 2

[Kagemusha]

Maybe we should throw who ever marries Hedwigis Von Saxony next to Austria? Btw has there been proposers for her?I think i might be intrested playing eventually one of the children from that marriage.

[FactionHeir]

Wonder who Ituralde will play as next. Austria lacks avatars yet again.

There have been no proposals so far, but that may change. I'm planning to accept any suitor (even if they got only "generally loyal")

[Ituralde]

I haven't decided whom to take either.
Thing is, that there's still two von Mahren gals who could marry. Could obviously, but if we continue to kill characters at this rate, it should happen soon.

I'm just a Austrian at heart!

[flyd]

I tried the three-stack battle yesterday, but instead of conventional tactics, I decided to go with an epic charge at the Mongol center, ignoring the horse archers. It wasn't long before the entire army was completely encircled by horse archers, but I did destroy two of the Mongol infantry/lancer cores, along with Aradai and the Khan, as well as some of the horse archers. Unfortunately, there were too few men left by the time the third group arrived on the flank.

Good job on the real battle, Ituralde. I'm glad to see that you didn't try to keep Fredericus out of trouble. He is the only one left in his bodyguard, has double-gold-chevron experience, and a bunch of new bravery and scar traits. He just won't die.

[TinCow]

I think the Mahren girls will eventually get proposals. Henry and Otto won't last much longer either. With 4 avatar losses in such a short period, plus the addition of a few more territories, marriage proposals should start popping up again. I would suggest that all marriages be accepted, but adoptions should only be accepted if they are for Austria.

[FactionHeir]

Its quite likely we'll get a few MOTH next time I send a captain to take out a few rebels. Guess I'll need to save/reload to know who the MOTH goes to.

[Stuperman]

Well, I'd be a little descriminating..I remember there was one proposal that had an 'activley disloyal' trait, as much fun as that would be to RP, I doubt he'd last long with the CPU haveing lotsa money for bribes.