King of the Romans OOC thread VII

[FactionHeir]

We currently got 2 Gothic Knights at experience 1 with weapon upgrade. To get them to Franconia though, it would either have to be the long route via Vienna, Prague, Thorn or the short route via Bran, eastern Budapest border and Krakow.
The short route is guarded by Hungarians and Poles of course :D

TBH, I was thinking of using the first batch of Gothics together with the two Two-handers to get Hans to Outremer and fight some Mongols. Been a long time since I last did that.

Btw, Thorn should be upgradable to a citadel soon or I'm currently doing that. Forgot which of the two.

[econ21]

I agree Durazzo is odd - I would rather we traded land for peace, although that may be hard to pull off. I noticed there was a Council of Nobles mission to retake Durazzo...

On the OOC Amendments, we can make OOC arguments here and in character ones in the Diet. I am fine with people voting on either, and voting either way. Just because I proposed it for OOC reasons, doesn't mean it can't be opposed for either OOC or in character reasons. When we do another campaign, I'd be inclined to propose something similar to CA10.2 (or stronger) in the rules to constrain us. Maybe even a "homelands" rule - you can only recruit in your starter provinces + a few.

I agree there is quite a lot of juice left in the PBM. The votes in the Diet session are the way in which players collectively can control its direction.

[FactionHeir]

I think for the next PBM it would be worthwhile to pre-plan on all kinds of game mechanics we'd want to set before starting the Grand campaign, as some things can only be changed before a campaign is started.
Example: Victory conditions, Timescale, starting settlements/units, AI favorite behavior, king's purse, age of characters, names, base unrest, merc availability/experience.

But I'm thinking too far ahead now probably.

The mission to retake Durazzo is the bug-type mission though: annex. Never works even if you do it properly.
CA 10.2 is not really OOC. You wrote it well enough to be accepted ICly.

[TinCow]

What makes you think she's a witch?
Well, she turned me into a newt!
A newt?
I got better.

Sorry, just finished pasting together Gerhard Steffen's bio and I couldn't resist.

[edit] Ok, all photos and basic world info updated in the Library. The rest of the info will be updated tomorrow. Apologies for the slowness, but this stuff takes longer and longer as the game gets going. A full Library update is now running me 3+ hours.

[Ignoramus]

Gunpowder has been discovered? That is good news!

[Ituralde]

No hurry TinCow, your efforts are really appreciated!

[Ignoramus]

Thanks very much for all the effort your putting in, TinCow! 3 hours certainly is a long time.

As a side note, has anyone noticed how well the English are going?

[StoneCold]

ya, looks like the scots are done. I think you guys should leave an ave of expansion for them in France or they might declare war much sooner.

[TinCow]

Yes, England already has several large armies on the Continent and they will certainly become more active there with Scotland nearly dead. Spain also looks like it will take full control of Iberia in the near future. There are several major Moorish and Portuguese armies there, but Spain has more armies and more resources, so victory looks just like a matter of time for them.

[gibsonsg91921]

neat work TC - is england still our ally?

[TinCow]

yes

[Stuperman]

Hey AG, I know how you feel, since becoming Duke of Bavaria Gerhard's been as useful as a chocolate teapot.

expansion of 1 region/house/chancellorship would give us 3 more chancellorships (assuming we have 33 regions now), but I'm not sure if that's slow enough.

Strictly limiting expansion for the next 40-60 years or so is probably best so that we get to fight some large Spanish and English armies, maybe we should aim for a net expansion of Ajaccio and Krakow with the rest of our conquests either abandoned or used for diplomatic ends?

edit: wewt wewt TC on the Library update, and WTH, 20 years in rome and I'm still a blighted hypochondriac, Damn it.

[StoneCold]

Well, at least you got rid of the warts and cough...

Are we going to help the Portuguese? Spain look set to gobble them up by the next chancellorship.

Also, OK sounds too mature compared to TC's char... :P

[OverKnight]

Also, OK sounds too mature compared to TC's char... :P

Guilty. I'm doing the best I can to build a new character. It's not working out as I thought it would. Besides the other new avatars have the market cornered on being fiery hard chargers, I guess Matt is the somewhat bookish wonk lost in the background. Still I don't think Otto would have recklessly gone after a sitting Chancellor like that. Except when he berated Leopold, but that was a special circumstance.

Oh well, I can always chalk up his maturity to the fact that he's Elsebeth's pool boy.

[gibsonsg91921]

matthias's grandma has got it going on shes all i want and ive waited so long. o wait..

[gibsonsg91921]

hey anyone want to join magna carta? we need more barons and its really cool. u can play both magna carta and kotr, in fact almost all of us are. u can fight civil wars or prove your loyalty to the king. its getting started - join and reserve your avatars, quick!

[AussieGiant]

Hey AG, I know how you feel, since becoming Duke of Bavaria Gerhard's been as useful as a chocolate teapot.

expansion of 1 region/house/chancellorship would give us 3 more chancellorships (assuming we have 33 regions now), but I'm not sure if that's slow enough.

Strictly limiting expansion for the next 40-60 years or so is probably best so that we get to fight some large Spanish and English armies, maybe we should aim for a net expansion of Ajaccio and Krakow with the rest of our conquests either abandoned or used for diplomatic ends?

edit: wewt wewt TC on the Library update, and WTH, 20 years in rome and I'm still a blighted hypochondriac, Damn it.

Hey Stuperman,

I'm glad someone is feeling the same way.

When Ituralde crushed those Hungarian's I'm going to be hanging on every word.

By the way Ituralde, you must kill every single prisoner you take!! I need MORE DREAD!!

GIVE ME MORE DREAD FATHER!!!

[Stuperman]

I really like Ignoramus's idea to have sub-provinces with thier own defence force, It would free up the household armies (which Franconia and Austria need) and allow for another active command which wouldn't hurt especially with all the new players joining recently.

[FactionHeir]

I think only Franconia would benefit from 2 armies to defend against Poles and advance against Russians.

Swabia maybe could use 2 to defend the southern border, but the French so far have been quiet down there.

Bavaria won't need a second one as Italy is secure. Once the Milanese are gone, I wonder if they'll even need one at all till the Sicilians betray us.

Austria used to need 2, but with Durazzo being papal now, will only need 1 to defend Budapest. Sofia can defend itself with a general present and can fend off Bucharest and Thessalonica incursions as well as the odd stack wandering down from Bran.
Perfect positions for Austria would be 1 fort at the border to Bran, just about where the current fort is, and one fort slightly north west of Sofia. Arnold and Sigismund should be well suited for that and allow me to move to Outremer or France, depending on how things go.

[Stig]

I think only Franconia would benefit from 2 armies to defend against Poles and advance against Russians.

And that's why I wanted that small crusade, so I would get a "free" army for it.

The thing Franconia would need is a small army in the west, but Prince Jobst is currently doing that job.

[AussieGiant]

I would prefer two standing armies. Call me power hungry but one to attack and one to defend is nice plus it drains our over bloated coffers nicely :)

I'm annoyed that I/we gave the Pope Daruzzo now...god damn it!!

I have no one to fight!!

Can't we do something

[flyd]

Wanna come to the Outremer? We have Horse Lords, in stock and at very reasonable prices!

[GeneralHankerchief]

"I'm off," said the madman.

I'll be back on Saturday. Don't leave me a crushing amount to read.

[FactionHeir]

AG: You'll have enough to fight. You are besieged by the Hungarians in your little fort afterall.

[OverKnight]

Looking at the Family Tree (good work as always TC) it seems our Empire is filled with a bunch of confirmed bachelors. Outside of the Swabians, none of the latest generation is marrying. We currently have enough avatars, I'm just worried a bit about the future.

I've given up trying to understand the various family tree mechanics. I guess there's not much to do about it. The only thing I could think of would be to arrange "accidents" for some of the avatars who won't be claimed.

[Stig]

Aye, we should get more married generals. But do we have some princesses ourselves who we can marry to our own generals?


just checked: Lyse von Salza is about to come of age if I'm correct. We should marry her to a good own family member (good traits for get children and such so we atleast get some again) imo.

[OverKnight]

Intriguing news about the Princess, that should set off a "Who wants to marry into the Royal Family?" contest among the Houses. It will only add more spice to the game.

The last Princess character we had set off quite an interesting chain of events.

[Warluster]

Is Lyse von Salza Jobst's daughter?
If so, I might make it a thing where Jobst is a sort of choosey father.

[Ituralde]

I looked through all the threads and really a bunch of things have happened. I'm pretty impartial on most of the Amendments proposed so far. I think we're doing quite fine, balancing OOC with IC, balancing expansion and so on.

What I found really hard though is to find another character to give some agenda, some special meaning, most of the unclaimed ones look rather bland. Mabye the guy freshly married into the House of Franconia, he looks like a new face. With the Diet session this advanced though, I don't want to introduce anything new just yet.

For now, I'm gonna act as an anonymous Austrian Elector, Austria really needs some voting powers anyway. Once the Diet is over, I see what'll crop up.

Cheers!

Ituralde


P.S: That is, if the House of Franconia wants to have me!

[econ21]

Is Lyse von Salza Jobst's daughter?
If so, I might make it a thing where Jobst is a sort of choosey father.

I think we did agree that the Emperor should decide who princesses (ie ones with their own avatars) marry. So if she spawns when you are Kaiser, I think it should be your call (even if she is not your daughter - I am vague on whether only the faction leader's daughters are princesses).