King of the Romans OOC thread VIII

[Ituralde]

Lyse von Salza has spawned and currently has a Charm of 3, although the Tool Tips of her two traits suggest that she should have a rating of 4, since both are supposed to give +2 each. I also haven't seen any ancilliary or trait that reduces her charm. Any insights FactionHeir?

[gibsonsg91921]

thats weird. well, in that case marry away! i wanna be in the tourney for her heart! lol. we should totally do what that one person said we should and have a multiplayer tournament for her hand.

[Stig]

Stuperman, no offence but I'd rather go on that crusade with some undeveloped characters. Preferably young, characters that need work so they get some good traits. When I got Ansehelm he already had some good traits, but characters as: Siegfried von Kastillien, Dieter Bresch, Wolfgang Hummel (he could do with some) or Helmut von Hamburg.

I can fight the battles now so that's no problem, sides I have no problem with autoresolving, stat wise I'm bringing superior troops.

have a multiplayer tournament for her hand.

An MP tourney for 4 players takes about 2 weeks to set up, arrange and fight, with luck.
I've been in multiple tourneys, and for tourneys you can fight about 1 person per week. Different schedules, timezones, GameSpy, etc.

[gibsonsg91921]

yeah, thats true, but we should do some cool way instead of just arbitrarily dropping her off.

[Ituralde]

Not sure about Helmut von Hamburg, but Dieter Bresch and Wolfgang Hümmel are definetly in Outremer. Dieter is running around with Conrad Salier, while Wolfgang is with his father in Adana.

[gibsonsg91921]

helmut's in ragusa last i checked - that would take a while too. maybe a reinforcement army coming from the black sea?

[Stig]

Yeah all the young characters seem to be far away. We still have Fritz tho, he can come, or Ansehelm could simply go on his own.
Tho if Helmut is in Ragusa he has enough time to head north, it will take about 5 turns for the army to finish I guess. And Dieter can get his experience with Conrad.

Helmut should head north anyway as he's needed when Gunther and Jonas die (withing 10 turns is my guess)

[Ituralde]

Yeah I belive one of the first jobs of the future Chancellor would be to sort out the character mess we have. With a lot of unassigned avatars coming up, they seem to appear every which way. I think it would be good to start moving them towards their respective Duchies or their Crusader Countys in Outremere to get some sort of organization going.

[TinCow]

Yep. Unless you're in or on your way to Outremer, avatars should remain in their Duchies. Especially unassigned ones.

[Stig]

The problem is is that all avatars who's fathers are outside cities spawn in Rome. That's 4 turns away from Franconia and 6 from the Outremer, atleast.

[gibsonsg91921]

yeah, thats where peter popped up.

[TinCow]

Right, which means it should be a high priority to get them on their way to their Duchies. We've had several cases of avatars lingering around in strange places for much longer than they needed to. I think unassigned avatars should be stuck in cities and used as governors to build good traits so that they will eventually be appealing to players who need avatars. If you're a Franconian and you pop up in Rome, you should be making a bee-line north to help manage Franconian cities.

[AussieGiant]

I agree entirely TC.

[Stig]

Actually it might be better to put them in the Italian cities and in the settlement with a young character you should than take down the tax so that happiness will grow to over 100% (green face), this will quickly give good governor traits in my experience.

[TinCow]

Yeah, but who says us Bavarians want any of your filthy Franconians stealing our women?

[Stig]

Yeah, but who says us Bavarians want any of your filthy Franconians stealing our women?

Don't worry, you can keep your witch

[OverKnight]

Actually a Jens von Kassel married Meinburg von Hamburg, so it's Bavarians, if you go by the randomly assigned last name of the suitor, stealing Franconian women.

[Stuperman]

Stuperman, no offence but I'd rather go on that crusade with some undeveloped characters. Preferably young, characters that need work so they get some good traits. When I got Ansehelm he already had some good traits, but characters as: Siegfried von Kastillien, Dieter Bresch, Wolfgang Hummel (he could do with some) or Helmut von Hamburg.

OK, but Since joining this PBM, I've fought 3 battles (in as many months) only 2 of which counted for Gerhard, (one battle Conrad was technically the commander, but I was the battle fighter for IC reason) So Gerhard had few good traits, then those few were destroyed by the witch. Gerhard Has never fought a siege battle (Mersaille was taken when there was no garrison), hell he's never even been outside his dutchy. As much as I contribute IC and OOC on the forums, I've done almost nothing IN GAME, and would like to have a more active role. This northen crusade is probable the last time Gerhard will get a chance to activle contribute as he's getting older (he's 50 now) and besides, IC it doesn;t make much sence to have a Grand Northern Crusade run by a bunch of 20 something generals.

edit: OK, I'm confused, who married Gerhard's Daughter?

[Stig]

OK, but Since joining this PBM, I've fought 3 battles (in as many months) only 2 of which counted for Gerhard, (one battle Conrad was technically the commander, but I was the battle fighter for IC reason) So Gerhard had few good traits, then those few were destroyed by the witch. Gerhard Has never fought a siege battle (Mersaille was taken when there was no garrison), hell he's never even been outside his dutchy. As much as I contribute IC and OOC on the forums, I've done almost nothing IN GAME, and would like to have a more active role. This northen crusade is probable the last time Gerhard will get a chance to activle contribute as he's getting older (he's 50 now) and besides, IC it doesn;t make much sence to have a Grand Northern Crusade run by a bunch of 20 something generals.

Aye true, but what I mean is that yes Gerhard hasn't done much (he has 10! loyalty tho, if I'm correct). But since he's 50 (mostlikely 53 when the crusade starts). Whatever he gains is little, and I think such is better done for the young characters, as they can use it in future.

Would be great to have someone old and experienced as Gerhard along for IC reasons tho. Bavaria isn't in much danger and can easely defended by Markus and Lothar, the only thing you might lack is governors for the Italian cities.

[gibsonsg91921]

im more worried he'd die before we get going...

[Stig]

Nah, most characters get to 58

[GeneralHankerchief]

So far the savegame's been pretty nice with our character ages. Heinrich and Henry both made it to 62 before croaking, and Leopold was going strong in his late 50s until he died in battle.

Gerhard does have that witch's blight on him but he should still have enough time to at least start the Crusade before he bites it.

[Stig]

Aye once he is near Thorn Ansehelm and the crusading army should be ready so they could go together near 1255 (either turn 1254 or 1256).
That's in 5-6 turns so Gerhard will be 53 then.

In 10 turns it should be possible to be in Moscow ... if it would be fully up to me.
We could ofcourse grant him an heroic death at his old age , or he could pass away sieging Moscow.

[Cecil XIX]

An MP tourney for 4 players takes about 2 weeks to set up, arrange and fight, with luck.
I've been in multiple tourneys, and for tourneys you can fight about 1 person per week. Different schedules, timezones, GameSpy, etc.

That's a good point, but it might be okay if don't stop the campaign. Does anyone know how long Princesses last?

[FactionHeir]

Until age 40, just as any other female avatar.

[FactionHeir]

Lyse von Salza has spawned and currently has a Charm of 3, although the Tool Tips of her two traits suggest that she should have a rating of 4, since both are supposed to give +2 each. I also haven't seen any ancilliary or trait that reduces her charm. Any insights FactionHeir?

The only way this can happen is if the person under whose "guidance" the princess spawned did not have the fixes installed.
In vanilla M2TW, EducatedWoman level 2 gives only 1 point, thus total 3. This does not update until she gains/loses another point in said trait or is fixed via console. This is why its so important to have the fixes properly installed when you are playing the game!

[Warluster]

btw, happy birthday Ignoramus and Xdeathfire!

[FactionHeir]

Hmm just noticed that down there too.

Happy 15th birthday both of you. Getting older hehe

[AussieGiant]

Happy Birthday guy's.

[gibsonsg91921]

hows it feel to be 15? im there too dudes. cept i turn 16 in september. u gonna be sophomores? im an uppaclassman now!