King of the Romans OOC thread VIII

[Ignoramus]

Thanks guys.

It's currently school holidays here in Victoria, so that's very nice.

[Cecil XIX]

Happy belated birthday, Ignoramus and Xdeathfire. Boy, it really feels weird knowing that I'm older than three of the people here at the age of 18.

[flyd]

You know, the game is not supposed to progress while the Diet is in session.

[Ignoramus]

I followed GH's precedent. If Ulrich hadn't died, then yes, he would be literally flayed alive, but as my sole purpose was to kill off Ulrich(the Turkish army only consisted of 90 men) I am sure it is alright.

[OverKnight]

FLYdude has a point, Ignoramus could have arranged to do this with the knowledge of Warluster just as easily once he took possesion of the save. I'm sure he wouldn't have minded arranging a Viking funeral for Ulrich.

I would suggest we let Warluster take a look at the save, and if he's alright with it, we'll go from there. It's still dirty pool however. Using GH's actions as Heinrich for precedent puts Ignoramus on shaky ground to begin with.

Please, please, please no more shenanigans with a save. It's a very slippery slope. We've frayed the PBM enough around the edges in the past few days and we don't need to be pulling out more threads.

[Stig]

*quickly steals save and murders everyone but Ansehelm*
*uploads it again without any noticing*


Wasn't me

[OverKnight]

I'm sorry Stig, but political assasinations are only allowed by a two thirds majority vote of the Diet, as I believe it would require a Charter Amendment. :P

[TevashSzat]

Sigh...Looks like a Swabian edict for taking a settlement is gonna fail once again. Its basically Swabia versus every1 else

[Stig]

Well you're kinda using this Emergency Session to get it through again, it failed once, so you could expect this.

Sides I voted against it because Ansehelm will need some resources for his crusade, would he have to share that with Swabia it would mostlikely take longer

[FactionHeir]

Still need more people to support E.3 here. Where are all the Bavarians that are supposed to follow their Duke's vote?

Btw, E.4 ought to pass: as a bday present for Xdeathfire heh!

[econ21]

If Ulrich hadn't died, then yes, he would be literally flayed alive, but as my sole purpose was to kill off Ulrich(the Turkish army only consisted of 90 men) I am sure it is alright.

Unless you upload a savegame, Ulrich hasn't died. We won't delay Warluster's start waiting for a savegame, although he may be amenable to mimicing your move if there is not one.

I understand that Ulrich may have reached the end of the road as a playable character and am happy to assign you another one. Do you want his son, Wolfgang Hummel, or another avatar?

I suggest people don't react in character to the rumours of Hummel's death until we see if they are exagerated.

[Ignoramus]

I'll upload it straight away. I'll consider which avatar I'll have next, but I'm leaning towards Wolfgang.

Edit: Save's uploaded - kotr1244-2.

I think I will take Wolfgang.

[Dutch_guy]

Ah, shame Hümmel had to go though. Kind of makes these emergency session edicts just plain old boring edicts, with the 'cause' of the problems gone.

That said, happy birthday Ignoramus and Xdeathfire !

Have a good one guys

[econ21]

I've updated the playlist with people's stats.

I think we accept Ulrich's death - it makes sense both in character and out of character - and just play on from:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1244-2.zip

The save is pretty interesting - I think Warluster is going to have a fun time as Chancellor. Perhaps one of his first jobs will be to rescue Wolfgang Hummel from the nearby Turks!

[Northnovas]

Karl Zirn Count of Zagreb and Governor of Damascus to the rescue!!!!
He's the only one out there.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Happy birthday guys!

The conclusion of the Conrad/hashish storyline is finally up.

[TevashSzat]

Thank you, and I think I may have to just take a French city and then abandon it just to weaken the French.

[Warluster]

lso, I had a brainwave. With the whole weird problem of Siegfred being Prince, we could get the 1242 save, the one before Henry was dead, and marry Lyse to Siegfred then, then upload?

Then the DIet tournaments could be for Meinburg.

[Stig]

Thank you, and I think I may have to just take a French city and then abandon it just to weaken the French.

Not allowed to attack cities ... Gaza for example.


and happy birthday and stuff

[econ21]

lso, I had a brainwave. With the whole weird problem of Siegfred being Prince, we could get the 1242 save, the one before Henry was dead, and marry Lyse to Siegfred then, then upload?

Then the DIet tournaments could be for Meinburg.

I think that's unpicking history too much (Henry may not even die, let alone redoing all the stuff that Ulrich did). I think it is best to just play on from 1244. As Tincow said, I don't think anyone is going to bat an eyelid at whatever in-character story is used to justify Siegfried being prince. (We did not with Sigismund and Jobst.)

[Stig]

Wait a minute, as Hummel is dead before the voting ended, shouldn't his votes become undone, somehow seems unright to me.

[FactionHeir]

[rant] Why do tied edicts fail? I shall propose a CA next diet to make tied edicts depend on the Emperor's will![/rant]

I'm not sure whether online tournaments will work out, considering what Stig said. Also, I won't have any good connection from tomorrow until october, so I can only fight SP battles, but no MP.

What Stig said also makes sense actually. Dead people's votes normally don't count?

[Stig]

I'm not sure whether online tournaments will work out, considering what Stig said.

If you want to marry a 40 year old woman no problem, but it takes time time and more time.
I can't fight on tuesdays, wednesdays and weekends (no I really can't), you can't fight on thursdays (for example). When we try we get a GS problem, try again some other day. Something more important comes inbetween so we have to fight another day.
I still have to fight 5 others, etc etc.

You should take about one week of time for every player in it.

Dead people's votes normally don't count?

Not in real, how do you vote?

[econ21]

Not in real, how do you vote?

Ever heard of postal votes? There must be a lot of postal voting going on in the Reich, given the geographic dispersion of its generals. Seriously, Ignoramus voted before he announced Hummel's death. I don't see a problem.

[OverKnight]

There's a fine tradition in American politics of dead people voting. Usually it involeved Political Machines like Tammany Hall and crooked voter registration lists.

[McIwoo]

I won't have any good connection from tomorrow until october, so I can only fight SP battles, but no MP.

No connection, no wife!

[AussieGiant]

[rant] Why do tied edicts fail? I shall propose a CA next diet to make tied edicts depend on the Emperor's will![/rant]

Maybe if and edict loses by less than 5% it should pass as well

[Stig]

Ever heard of postal votes?

Not when one is dead.
During the Diet session the game is stalled, so it doesn't matter when Igno killed Hummel. He's dead.
(heh, I want E2.3 through)

[AussieGiant]

It's all semantic.

He had time to come to the Diet so could have left his wishes to some administrator. There is a million possible ways to have his wishes fulfilled.

2.3 failed as it was a tie.

[StoneCold]

ya, as you say, he saw that the impeachment will pass so he decide to go out in a blaze of glory. So, the vote happened while he was alive. :P