King of the Romans OOC thread VIII

**FactionHeir** · 06-26-2007, 20:23

I wouldn't know why really, in terms of automanage. If TC is right though, the most likely cuplrit file for that would be the buildings files (export_descr_building) that differs between players, so it would be prudent to check whether you currently have said file in your data folder while loading up the save game or not. I'm guessing it might be due to something else though.

So far, I haven't seen any automanage in the other savegames I got from people except one from TC (where Paris was on automanage) and Ignoramus, where half the empire is on automanage.

**TinCow** · 06-26-2007, 20:35

Paris was on after one of my saves? I know I've been negligent in installing the VnV patch for a few of the Library updates, but I make sure to get the right one before fighting any battles. Hmm....

**FactionHeir** · 06-26-2007, 20:38

The save where you fought at Zagreb was fine, but the one after you took out the army near Budapest had the problem. Didn't think much of it though, as everything else was in order after checking.

I'd be surprised if not installing the vnvs properly would cause this, but can't hurt to confirm with Ignoramus whether he is using it/has it properly installed.
So: Ignoramus

**TinCow** · 06-26-2007, 20:59

Was there a VnV update between the time when I fought those two battles?

**FactionHeir** · 06-26-2007, 21:02

Nope, last update was before my chancellorship.
I'm currently thinking whether there is anything left that needs fixing without going too far away from vanilla traits and ancs.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 06-26-2007, 21:10

Could it have anything to do with one player (the majority of us) turning off automanaging via Game Options and another (Ignoramus) leaving it on?

Also, off-topic, but I'm playing a game as Venice and I see good old Otto von Kassel as a lone unit in my territory - but he's the Milanese faction heir!

Still deciding what to do with him.

**gibsonsg91921** · 06-26-2007, 21:14

wow i thought otto was more noble than to accept a bribe

**TinCow** · 06-26-2007, 21:14

Well, Otto does have a history of serving the highest bidder...

Bribes, perhaps not. Brides...

**OverKnight** · 06-27-2007, 00:38

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Also, off-topic, but I'm playing a game as Venice and I see good old Otto von Kassel as a lone unit in my territory - but he's the Milanese faction heir!

Still deciding what to do with him.

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!. . .wait faction heir? Hmmmmmm. Could be worse.

As TC pointed out, a Milanese Princess most likely picked him off. He starts out in Innsbruck and is the closest unmarried HRE avatar to Milan. Since he's just a starter general and not in the family tree he makes a good target, because he never gets married unless MoH or a Princess makes it possible.

Still the Milanese must be in a bad way if he's heir, but I can never tell with the crack headed selection mechanics.

Still good for Alternate Universe Otto, he's a social climber anywhere.

GH, if you're at war with Milan, well. . .you know what to do. Otherwise it might be amusing to see if you can bribe him to your side, but his loyalty is probably sky high at this point, and he is faction heir.

**Cecil XIX** · 06-28-2007, 05:01

Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Nope, last update was before my chancellorship.
I'm currently thinking whether there is anything left that needs fixing without going too far away from vanilla traits and ancs.

This is just a thought, but is it possible make certain acillaries requirements for certain traits?

If it is, then you could create a Count/Duke ancillary that would allow us to get traits without having to actually be in the settlement, making our avatars the governor of a settlement both in the game and the PBEM. There could even be a 'Chancellor' ancillary that would avoid the problem of certain Emperors taking the blame for the assassination that certain Chancellors order. *wink wink*.

If it isn't, then forget I said anything.

**Stig** · 06-28-2007, 07:58

Why has Gibson got a battle to fight, the last time I looked he was totally on the free.
It is I who has some Poles to fight because I want to get Ansehelm back to Thorn.

I must also say that I more or less had it with this game, the fun is almost over. Maybe Igno likes it, I don't, grow up kid.

**FactionHeir** · 06-28-2007, 12:00

Originally Posted by Cecil XIX

This is just a thought, but is it possible make certain acillaries requirements for certain traits?

If it is, then you could create a Count/Duke ancillary that would allow us to get traits without having to actually be in the settlement, making our avatars the governor of a settlement both in the game and the PBEM. There could even be a 'Chancellor' ancillary that would avoid the problem of certain Emperors taking the blame for the assassination that certain Chancellors order. *wink wink*.

If it isn't, then forget I said anything.

The current limitations in the system require that you are inside a settlement to receive its benefits or change the system every turn to account for changes in the settlement. Also, stuff like assassination works by LeaderOrderedAssassination, so it will automatically give it to the factionleader and cannot give it to another avatar. I can think of a small workaround for this but you would need to change the files every diet at the very least and only works if a trait has enough points to show up on the sheet, not for minor points. Also won't work if the leader has an antitrait to the trait.

In other news, looks like Franconia and Austria are up for calling the emergency diet. If Swabia or Bavaria join, it is up to the Prince to confirm it.