King of the Romans OOC thread IX

**OverKnight** · 07-23-2007, 06:32

We don't necessarily have to follow the game's lead when it comes to who is Kaiser. It would cause a little disconnect if someone else besides Siegfried emerges as Kaiser, the title in game and the larger force of retainers for one, but that's not a insurmountable obstacle.

As for rebellion, we haven't reached that stage yet. We'll see what develops in the Diet, and go from there. If Siegfried honks off enough Electors, they could pass some pretty crippling CAs, which would be a legislative rebellion, not an armed one.

On one hand it's frustrating, because we all know OOC that the dreaded AI named Siegfried Prince long ago, but it was never acknowledged IC. On the other hand this is fun because we've got high drama in the Diet.

Of course all of us who dared question the inevitable (by game, if not PBM standards) rise of Siegfried might end up with our heads decorating pikes, but I'm a dedicated role player and I'm willing to take that risk. I am glad, however, we're in a constitutional monarchy and not an absolute one.

**Warluster** · 07-23-2007, 07:07

Darn it.

I'm still gonna finish off my story, all leading to a little suprise...

I'm gonna get writing, writing 'bout Jobsts funeral.

Guess I better choose a avatar.

**Warluster** · 07-23-2007, 07:16

Sorry for double post.

Right, I've been shopping for a avatar.

Is Fritz von Kastilien avabile? If so, I'll be him. If not, I'll take the other sparey.

Or do you reckon I should wait for... Jobst's son?

**OverKnight** · 07-23-2007, 08:57

@Warluster - Good read on the funeral. There are a few surprises in there. I see Lothar is carrying on the fine Bavarian tradition of marrying well.

Have you considered staying in Swabia? Jens Hummel is available and is a pretty decent avatar, or you could wait a few turns for Athalwolf. I suggest this because due to most of the available avatars being in Franconia, many of our newer players ended up there.

The breakdown of players (and available avatars). This count doesn't include Ituralde who is now outside the house framework.

Swabia - 4 (2)
Franconia - 6 (4)
Austria - 3 (0)
Bavaria - 4 (0)

An imbalance is beginning to emerge. Also none of the younger avatars are getting married, which means Austria and Bavaria could very quickly run out of replacements for older avatars, such as Gerhard Steffen and Conrad Salier. This would also eventually effect the other houses. Adding Lyse to Bavaria will help, if she has kids, but Austria is still SOL.

Now this may sound kind of odd, but perhaps we should start sending some of our less desirable unclaimed avatars, such as Jens von Kassel, who married into the family in his 40s, to their dooms. This would hopefully nudge the family management AI into offering a few marriages or adoptions into less populated sections of the family tree.

EDIT: Another option, and Faction Heir could probably answer this, is see if it is possible to mod the game to recruit Generals, like in BI. That way, if we run short in one house, we could build a few avatars, and marry them in later if possible.

**FactionHeir** · 07-23-2007, 09:04

Usually you get more marriage offers if all your daughters are married off and you have approx the number of generals to numer of regions.
If you have too few generals or lots of unweds, chances are that those will be offered first.
One thing we could do is change a variable in the campaign_db (something I do for my SP games) to spawn more children. (unsure of effect on marriages, but seems to slightly increase I think)

I won't have access to the game proper for the next 10 days, but I still know most of the things by heart so can post exact step-by-step instructions.

**Warluster** · 07-23-2007, 10:11

FH, your a walking, talking M2TW Encyclopedia

I think I will stay in Swabia, its grown on me. Will take Athalwolf, could finish off my little story with 'im.

Thanks OK, I tried to mkae it my best one. :)

**Ituralde** · 07-23-2007, 10:33

I have not read the Diet thread yet, so I don't know the exact nature of all accusations, but I must say from what I can gather here, I am quite pleased with the reactions so far. It was in my express intent to have Siegfrieds ascension to the throne be as murky as possible and it looks like I've succeeded.

I will browse through the Diet thread today and try to address the concerns in character. Maybe I'll manage to appease the Diet, maybe not, but either way, I love it!

So don't feel any remorse in making my work as Emperor as hard as possible!

Cheers!

Ituralde