Dietrich von Dassel:

Wasting men?

Zirn, had we followed your strategy then we would have lost all of Italy below the Po by now.

Right now we have not lost all of Italy below the Po and are in good position to keep all of our Italian territories, with probably only Rome falling.

Plus, had we followed your strategy the Byzantines would still be at more strength. Right now we hold what we held before and the Byzantines have paid a greater price than us.

I don't call that glory. I call that smart defense.