Out of character thread XIV

**FactionHeir** · 10-14-2007, 01:25

New KOTRfix is up (v 1.29).
Several fixes to minor oversights in terms of 1.28a's balance, upped a few chances here and downed a few there. Lowered several trait thresholds for very rare traits and upped them for some too common traits.

As usual get it from my sig or direct link:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/KOTRfix129.zip

**OverKnight** · 10-14-2007, 01:31

If we have a mini-econ does that make econ21, macro-econ?

Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

Seriously though Econ21 good job

on weakening the Reich in a believable manner and accomodating all sorts of odd requests while telling an enthralling story. It's all so Gibbonesque.

You're a better man then me. My ego wouldn't have allowed me to drag my character's reputation through the mud and thrown a wrench into the delicate machinery we've built up. I can only imagine the sick, twisted and horrific things TC has waiting for us.

**FactionHeir** · 10-14-2007, 01:35

I approve of OK's post.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-14-2007, 01:38

Ugh, OK, I'm taking AP economics this year. Please don't remind me.

**OverKnight** · 10-14-2007, 01:41

Cry me a river GH, I had an 8:00am Intro to Economics class in college. The horror, the horror.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-14-2007, 01:44

Yeah, but that was back in college. You're supposed to, you know, look back on it and laugh (or at least, wonder how you survived).

I on the other hand am forced to deal with the reminders that KotR is sucking my time from studying for said class.

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-14-2007, 01:50

im taking ap gov/econ senior year, next

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-14-2007, 03:26

AP Gov isn't too bad. I took it last year and did fine on the exam.

Anyway, I'm trying my hand at making some KotR banners in preparation for the cataclysm; here's my first attempt. Any suggestions/ideas on how to zoom in closer? I wanted an Imperial fighting a Byzantine close-up but this was as close as I could get.

**Warluster** · 10-14-2007, 03:27

Awesome, interesting story as well GH.

And when you've done some banners, will you allow other players to use them?

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-14-2007, 03:29

Yes, please do.

**Cecil XIX** · 10-14-2007, 03:50

Good story GH, I like that you really have to know about KOTR to get who it's about.

Serves him right, too.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-14-2007, 03:52

Three more:

The wordier, cataclysm-ready version:

And the Heinrich-approved one:

-edit- Hmm, words don't come out too well. Maybe it's the color.

Let's try it in blue:

And now, with contrast!

**Warluster** · 10-14-2007, 05:11

Ah, how do I add it to my sig? DO I have to save it then download it using Imageshack?

**Northnovas** · 10-14-2007, 05:14

The red and blue lettering is a little fuzzy or washed out but that green looks sharpe. It has a real contrast to the background.

**Privateerkev** · 10-14-2007, 05:29

I will also join in with the kudos to GH for the story.

Somewhere, the world's smallest violin is playing for a certain former Kaiser. ^_^

But one minor point with the story, I think Karl Zirn is the oldest avatar, not Hans.

It's, in order:

Karl Zirn 56
Hans 54
Elberhard 48
Ansehelm 47
Jan 45 (yeah I was surprised by this too. Jan is one of the "elders".

)
Fritz 43
Peter 42
Arnold 41
Lothar 41

The rest are "youngins" since I set an arbitrary cut-off of 40. :D

Also, I might be a half of a year off in avatar age since I just added 5 years to whatever was in the Library. Didn't feel like loading up the save again.

**Northnovas** · 10-14-2007, 05:44

No wonder the old joints have been acting up recently. I'm an old coot!

I think maybe I may the oldest player with the oldest avatar.

**AussieGiant** · 10-14-2007, 09:28

Ahh jees,

I'm finally starting to get the excitement back after a while.

Cecil....definitely no hard feelings, but....you are talking about the original and best, Dread Duke of the Holy Roman Empire.

I can't see him giving you too much leeway on this...still, maybe he gets married soon as can be pacified

**econ21** · 10-14-2007, 10:42

Originally Posted by gibsonsg91921

how old is mini-econ?

He's 12 - just starting secondary school.

We've been playing Warhammer wargames together since he was about five though, so he is something of a veteran.

**FactionHeir** · 10-14-2007, 10:49

Now that's what I call education

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-14-2007, 14:07

Originally Posted by Warluster

Ah, how do I add it to my sig? DO I have to save it then download it using Imageshack?

No, use the URL tag and where you would normally put what the link would say (not the actual link - I linked it to the History thread) put the IMG tag and then the image URL itself.

Example: [URL="http://www.where_you_want_to_link_it_to.org"][IMG]http://www.image_url_here.com[/IMG][/URL]

**TinCow** · 10-14-2007, 16:05

First turn post is up. FH and GH have already been communicating with me regularly on their plans, so I skipped the choices for them to save time. At least for this turn, I urge everyone to read the choices for each person, if only to give you ideas for the future. Keep in mind these choices are NOT DEFINITIVE. If you want to elaborate further on one of them or do something completely different, just tell me so in the PM.

Second, note that I have relied on peoples' traits heavily in many areas, especially financial. All unusual financial adjustments are noted in parentheses after the current amount of wealth.

Third, the 1320.sav file has not yet been edited. I am going to move some armies around right now and will then re-upload it. If something in the description I posted does not match the current save game, go with what the description says.

Finally, I changed the rules on movement to greatly simplify them. Please re-read them.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 10-14-2007, 16:29

Wow TinCow, that looks really impressive.

Finally, here's a banner reminiscent of happier times:

**Stig** · 10-14-2007, 16:36

@TinCow, Vilnius is not controlled by Elberhard, but by Franconia

**TinCow** · 10-14-2007, 16:38

Sorry, I was going by the Chancellor's thread which says it is Imperial. Can you show me where it was given to Franconia?

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-14-2007, 16:39

o it is imperial. dang

**econ21** · 10-14-2007, 17:11

I don't think Vilnius was ever allocated to a House; at the last Diet, the intention was to abandon it, which is what happened. However, the AI just walked past it for about 8 turns, even though it was ungarrisoned. Then I put in a minimal garrison, hoping to lure the AI to take it. They are still ignoring it.

TinCow: I might have missed it, but what is the deadline for submitting orders? 24 hours from your post? 48 hours?

**TinCow** · 10-14-2007, 17:14

Ah, I forgot to include that. It will be 48 hours from the time of posting. I will not that at the top of the FAQ.

Also, the 'official' save file is now uploaded. I may have a few small tweaks to make to it, but everything major has been done and you can rely on it as a complete picture of the situation. The 'official' saves will be posted at the top of the posts for each individual year.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1320-1.zip

**econ21** · 10-14-2007, 19:45

Originally Posted by TinCow

Ah, I forgot to include that. It will be 48 hours from the time of posting.

To keep things moving, it might be possible to execute some orders within that 48 hours waiting period, if they have no bearing on other orders. For example, Mini Econ's sally could be got out the way, as it does not affect anyone else either way.

More generally, in the last Chancellorship, I found it useful to think about Houses and Outremer as "sectors", and once all orders are in for a sector, they could be implemented regardless of any outstanding orders or battles relating to other sectors.

**TinCow** · 10-14-2007, 19:54

Already told Mini Econ to fight his sally whenever he wants, since the results will not impact any other moves.

Also, I have added the following line to the Direct Recuitment section and am posting it here so that people are aware:

If you want to use Direct Recruitment, you need to let me know in the PM and state specifically which units you want to recruit. My default choices will rarely include Direct Recruitment choices, so a typical response would be "Option B + Recruit 1 unit of Zweihanders and 1 unit of Sergeant Spearmen".

I am going off right now to make a specific list of all the normal HRE units and the common mercenaries. I will specifically state the recruitment price of each unit in the FAQ.

**RoadKill** · 10-14-2007, 20:16

Econ, your going to fight my battle when I seige Budapust right?

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