Cataclysm Mechanics Draft

**TinCow** · 10-06-2007, 15:19

Originally Posted by FactionHeir

What happens if a Rebel Capital is lost? Do they get to declare a new one then?

Nope, it's still their capital. They have to re-conquer it if they want the extra income back. I will add that to the FAQ.

edit: Rebel Capitals cannot be moved during the cataclysm, even if your capital is held by the AI or has fallen under the control of another player; if you care about the extra income, you had better protect it.

**Ferret** · 10-06-2007, 15:31

In that case is it possible to have rebel settlements before declaring a capital? For example if at first you only had a castle but you wanted a city as the capital could you conquer that and make it your capital?

**TinCow** · 10-06-2007, 15:42

Sure, I don't see why not.

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-06-2007, 15:43

is it possible that lutherans, so inspiring the peasantry, can recruit a quick army of zealous peasants (kinda like crusaders get religious zealots and pilgrims) for catapult ammo?

peters gotta use his newfound star power somehow

**TinCow** · 10-06-2007, 15:45

I would say that prominent Lutheran supporters such as Dietrich, Fritz, Peter, and Tancred could certainly attempt to exploit that position. Of course, it's likely to make non-Lutherans in the province angry...

**FactionHeir** · 10-06-2007, 15:47

So how do you determine the percentage of Lutherans in a region? As measured in heresy percent? Couldn't this Lutheran recruit peasant ability be abused to cause unrest in a high non Lutheran region?

What do loyalists get btw for being totally outnumbered?

**gibsonsg91921** · 10-06-2007, 15:48

they get factionheir, the best general in this game.

**OverKnight** · 10-06-2007, 15:49

Originally Posted by FactionHeir

What do loyalists get btw for being totally outnumbered?

They get Duchies and noble deaths?

**FactionHeir** · 10-06-2007, 15:51

Meh, overall Arnold is better because he has dread rather than chiv. (At least my belief is that Dread is better than Chiv due to command giving you a huge morale boost anyway)

Still, Hans is nothing without a decent force that can be replenished and/or fast movement. And he's pretty much alone and with Bavarians, Austrians and rebel Swabians knocking at his door from all directions.

Personally, I think that a conversion/appeal would be a nice ability to make non loyalist troops desert more frequently (and possibly over to the loyalist force rather than being disbanded)

**TinCow** · 10-06-2007, 16:00

Originally Posted by FactionHeir

So how do you determine the percentage of Lutherans in a region? As measured in heresy percent? Couldn't this Lutheran recruit peasant ability be abused to cause unrest in a high non Lutheran region?

What do loyalists get btw for being totally outnumbered?

For the first question, I don't know. I'll figure it out if someone tries it.

As for the second, I am going to do my best to make sure everyone starts off relatively equal in power and main focus of the challenges will still be the AI. This is not KOTR Civil War, after all. I see the rebellion options more as a way for people to gain extra strength to fight the AI by backstabbing other players. If a player concentrates exclusively on fighting other HRE players, he will likely lose his provinces to AI attacks.

**OverKnight** · 10-06-2007, 16:11

As for Ducal succession, I feel we might need an OOC CA to address this. Not only Swabia, but from the looks of it Franconia, plans to have the same player as Duke over two Avatars. This is, as GH succinctly put it, "lame".

I'm all for avatars being ambitious title hungry bastards, but we shouldn't cross that line in our OOC playing style. Switching off who is Duke provides a fresh perspective and increases fun for more players. Why compete for the Duke's favor if he's just going to pass the Title on to himself as another avatar? (Which might explain the mutinous nature of Swabia and Franconia at the moment).

There should, at least, be a one player gap between reassuming the title of Duke.