Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
What about non-Counts?
I meant it to include anyone in Dietrich's position. Let's revise it to "Electors that rebel against their Dukes will gain the +3 influence of a Duke, rather than the any other bonus they currently receive IF: (a) They are free (not a prisoner) and (b) Still control their Capital settlement."

Quote Originally Posted by Privateerkev
As long as it is only for the 1340 session, I like it.
Definitely. The point is so that the entire group of players (rather than just econ21 and I) can figure out how to sort out this entire mess when it is all over. I don't want to tell people what the long-term ramifications will be for the Reich, I want us all to figure it out in the usual way. This simply gives the rebels a chance of changing the order of things. Without it, the Dukes could easily slap the rebels back into line, which wouldn't make sense if the rebels are actually successful. Of course, if the rebels aren't successful, the Dukes will not be threatened much by them at all. Notice that it will work both ways. If Hans captures both Wolfgang and Dietrich, he'll have a 100% guarantee of having all of Swabia's voting strength behind him. It also gives an added incentive NOT to execute an avatar.