Out of character thread XVI

[Zim]

Ok. I am taking this save, I believe it to be the most recent (correction if I am mistaken is welcome). I have a Sunday School teachers' meeting tomorrow after church, but it should end in the early afternoon(late evening today for those of you closer to GMT). After that, I'll get to my gaming computer asap, and play out the battle.

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1330-12.zip

Thanks for the info, PK. I wouldn't have known all of that information was neccessary, and piecing it together from screenshots would have taken quite some time.

I'm guessing that another difference between this and say, a hotseat game, is that I am completely limited to the soldiers in Herr Peter's stack(or settlement if he is in one)?

[Privateerkev]

Ah, there is another difference. Don't take the save unless your gonna fight it now and upload the new one in a couple hours. Unless no one else is waiting for it.

[Zim]

In that case, I am not taking the save. Not until tomorrow when I can fight the battle right away, at least.

I'm glad I'm figuring these things out now, rather than later on when I could make a mess of things.

[econ21]

I am taking the save, to try and represent the result at Bern.

If you look at the final jpg, the battle was definitely a loyalist victory. Pretty much the entire Catholic Crusader Army is left standing, with Bern under its control. But I just could not believe what happened to all the army leaders in turn 6 (until turn 5, I thought all of them would make it - Dietrich has an exit road and the loyalists seemed in little danger).

I will merge the orders with the Battle thread to give more insight into the mechanics behind it.

In this thread, we have instructions from GH and PK about their next avatar - they seem fine to me. For Factionheir, I assume he will want to take Ehrhart Ruppel?

After the bloodbath at Bern, Elberhard is going to try to make some kind of initiative to stop this Swabian conflict. I aim to post that today.

I will liase with TinCow about what to do with the parts of Swabia that Hans controlled. But these are my thoughts. Hans died with no heir, so if there were a Diet, succession would be decided by a Council. However, with no Diet, Elberhard is going to appoint von Salza - the only remaining player controlled loyalist - a Duke for now. What happens in the longer term will be left vague, as part of the initiative Elberhard will start. Given the loyalist victory at Bern, I think it appropriate that Hans' territories and men pass over to the new Duke without a hitch. Dietrich's rebellion is over and Hummel's Principality is quite far away and depleted. Von Salza may give Ehrhart Ruppel whatever Counties or armies he sees fit.

[FactionHeir]

During the battle deployment, Hans actually sent an IC letter to Salza an appointed him his heir in case he died during the battle, so there shouldn't be a problem.

Oh, and I need to PM you still econ.

[econ21]

I have merged the orders with the feedback in the Battle of Bern thread.

[Privateerkev]

wow...

Reading the Bern thread makes it all make sense. Now I see why the communication has to go through Econ. It really helped make the battle interesting to have more realistic communication.

So, Dassel killed Hans because he thought he could get away with it? He assumed Jan was alive and took Bern, therefore he thought he could take advantage of Jan's merciful reputation? But what Dassel didn't know, was that Jan was dead and his army had taken the city without him. So the Teutonic knights took it upon themselves to execute Dassel.

awesome...