Factions you have fallen out of love with

[olly]

I started a Pontus campaign last week as they have always been a favourite of mine due to their tough start, decent unit roster (including Galatians who I love), lots of options of what to do and who to kill as long as you are ready for the Selucids. Anyway, all in all, one of my favourite faction.

I'm about 50 years in and just about have all of Asia Minor apart for the Macedons and Ptolomies have a province each and a couple of independent provinces in the west. So far a very tough and enjoyable campaign.

I have the highest level of baraks in my capital and access to some pretty cool troops through it while in Galatia I can get lots of naked guys who are tough as you like. Looking good for me to go onto global domination and I should be the happiest boy in the known world.

Then it hits me. In most of my new provinces I can only recruit the very worst hellenic units like levy hoplites, archers, slingers and at best classical hoplites. The regional units don't really inspire me. I like to have a unit of axeman around and the odd levy hoplite or caucasian spearmen are cool but I just thought if this is all that awaits me unless I get to Babylon and spend loads on baraks I no longer love these guys.

This is no complaint. I love this mod. I have just fallen out of love with Pontus. Has this happend to anyone else?

[pezhetairoi]

Well, if you have been playing Pontos all the time, there will definitely be a stage when people feel jaded with it. Definitely. I loved Baktria too, but then after 3 campaigns with it, it kinda got a little tiring. Things like that will happen, yups...

Here's my tip: start a new campaign, close your eyes, and select a random faction. Much more fun that way. Hooboy, I remember the time my cursor landed on Hayasdan... What a lark that was!

[antisocialmunky]

The KH, they are too easy now.

[anubis88]

I loved to play with Carthage, but they've become a really easy faction to play... Plus they have the huge African elephants, which i don't believe they've used. They were my favourite along with seleucia in 08.x

[Magister Militum Titus Pullo]

I guess that, since I've started playing this game, I've become pretty fascinated the eastern Hellenic Successor states like the Seleukid Empire and the Bactrian and Ptolemaic Kingdoms. I mean, I'll always be a Roman nut, and the Audui and the Arverni had the potential to achieve so much more than they did. But there something about the Asian and Aigyptos-based Hellenes that I find appealing. Maybe, aside from the kick-ass heavy cavalry, phalangites and royal guard units, its the whole concept of colonialism, such as laying down their roots on foreign soil, and luring their western-born brethren from their homelands with the promise of cash and bountiful farmland, in return for military service. New nation-states inventing themselves and making themselves stronger. Apparently, Ptolemaic Egypt, in particular, was known as a hotbed of scientific advancement in that era.

[Hooahguy]

the romani were my favorite, but now its Baktria.....

[CirdanDharix]

I loved to play with Carthage, but they've become a really easy faction to play... Plus they have the huge African elephants, which i don't believe they've used. They were my favourite along with seleucia in 08.x

Actually, classical texts say that some elephants in the Carthie herd were huge compared to the rest. It's just conjecture but to me it seems more plausible for them to have bush elephants than for forest elephants to be towered.

[Emperor Burakuku]

I see lots of instability and polygamy here. AS, Rome, Cartage and Baktria... Parthia... hmm... KH... damn. I don't do barbarians in general. Of course Macedonia, how could I forget? Epirus, damn. Ptolemies... That's all I think.

[Senatus Populusque Romanus]

I am currently playing ROmani and it's got fallen out the love with.

Romani is, i think, the coolest faction in EB so far. Various recruitable mercenaries in Italy, and legions from barracks.

However, the things that ruins Romani are the tough reform conditions as campaign progresses. Especially Marian reform and Imperial reform.

It is DAMN hard to get those reforms and most of the time you never see Marian or Imperial troops.

Well, I am still playing Romani as my favorite faction though

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

When I saw Gladiator, I became a fan of the Romans, and I bought R:TW and was still a fan of them, and then I played a campaign with them in EB till 252 BC, and now I'm kind of a Hellene...

[Folgore]

Actually, classical texts say that some elephants in the Carthie herd were huge compared to the rest. It's just conjecture but to me it seems more plausible for them to have bush elephants than for forest elephants to be towered.

Yeah, the Ptolemaioi lent large sums of money to the Carthaginians for their wars against Rome. Some suggest that this could also have included (large) elephants.

[Pharnakes]

When I saw Gladiator, I became a fan of the Romans, and I bought R:TW and was still a fan of them, and then I played a campaign with them in EB till 252 BC, and now I'm kind of a Hellene...

Welcome to the dark side. Here is your intoductory balloon, . Note the colour.

Explanotry pamphlets are avalible form all good libaries and philosphia in Athens, Antiocheia and Seleukia. Thoose damn incestious yellow scum don't ussualy stock them, I'm afraid. Instead, a pamphlet on how to loose the richest kingdom in the world and end up the plaything of of a bunch of wanabee greeks with a major inferoity complex, are avalible on request.

[tapanojum]

My Pontus campaign at 240bc...kind fell out of love after conquering a good chunk of greece and some AS/Ptoly lands. I think the biggest factor was the fact that I won several amazing and longass fights only to have a CTD error right after. Each time that happens, I have less and less interesting in the campaign.

Maybe I should autowin every time I have a CTD to keep my interests going.

[Beefy187]

Galatians.... HEHEHEHE

My favourite faction is KH with all the roleplaying funness. But im thinking of starting a Getai campeign.

[llib]

Personally I play almost AS only, I tried Romans but losing availability to replenish majority of most experienced troops at the time is something I don't like. It's pity they can't be upgraded in a way of general bodyguards ;-) , or kept recruitable.

[pezhetairoi]

I agree about the toughness of Roman Marian conditions. My FMs all have mediocre traits, normal ones with nothing out of the ordinary. I had to give Popularis via console to my faction heir to get the Marians, since it was 198BC and I had had it up to here with waiting further, especially since my armies were getting further and further away from Italy.

[Constantine the Great]

I tend not to fall out of love with factions. I keep several campaigns saved that I could go into if I wanted, to get a new perspective if I'm getting bored. Right now, I'm focusing on my Seleucid campaign, but I've got a Romani one, a KH one, and Epirus one, with decent progress in each, waiting for me when I tire of Seleucia.

[tapanojum]

I tend not to fall out of love with factions. I keep several campaigns saved that I could go into if I wanted, to get a new perspective if I'm getting bored. Right now, I'm focusing on my Seleucid campaign, but I've got a Romani one, a KH one, and Epirus one, with decent progress in each, waiting for me when I tire of Seleucia.

I do that too, I play a campaign till I get bored and start another one. Later on as I lose interest I might continue a previous campaign and keep switching around advancing in all campaigns.

I'm playing a Pontus, Hai, and a Lusotan campaign.

[Palasta]

Fall out of Love?

No, Never Ever.

[pezhetairoi]

Well, I was functioning under the impression that 'falling out of love' was more of getting bored of a faction rather than a permanent avoidance of it... o.O

[Rottweiler]

I have played vanilla RTW, RTR 6, tried some early EB version and now I'm playing EB 1.0.

In all those I have never played a campaign with anything but Romans. I guess that makes me a fan of them...

[fatsweets]

I have recently been playing factions that I have not played at all or have played for less then a couple of years. Those being Sauromatae and Sweboz, I had fun with both of those for about 60 to 70 years and then was bored. So I did some pondering on who I could remember having the most fun playing with previous versions of EB. I came to the conclusion that I had the most fun with KH. So I started a new campaign in version 1.0 wondering what would happen. Guess what, I am having a but load of fun playing them again, I don't know what exactly it is but every time I play the KH it is fun. So for those of us who are looking for a fun faction to play and haven't tried the KH, I recommend them fully.

[Horst Nordfink]

Makedonia. I've no idea why. In EB 0.81a I used to play them more than anyone else, but in EB 1.0 I just can't get away with them.

I'm having far too much fun with Pahlava now anyway.

[Perturabo]

Not really fallen out of favour with.. but I have never played a Roman game since my first vanilla experience (a very boring troop roster, being coded to utterly dominate all other factions and speding almost every non EB game trying to keep them under control being only several factors).
Attacked my first Macedonian city with a cohort, noticed all these nice long pikes coming out the gates...

Charged headlong into said pikes with my infantry...

Then the Mak heavy cavalry met me....

and then...

and then....



Now I predominately play Greek factions.

Having said that, not only have my tactical skills increased since then, but the Romans in EB look really, really good and I am tempted to give them a try.

Still a Greek at heart, but the Celts can be fun for a break.

[Emperor Burakuku]

I see lots of instability and polygamy here. AS, Rome, Cartage and Baktria... Parthia... hmm... KH... damn. I don't do barbarians in general. Of course Macedonia, how could I forget? Epirus, damn. Ptolemies... That's all I think.

Sorry, not out of love. In love... I think I need glasses...

[BerkeleyBoi]

The inability to recruit more Ethiopian units made me a little disappointed playing as Saba, though I never got sick of it. Just the save file disappeared.

I used to play as KH a lot, but I got it got a little too easy, especially since your home territories, after killing Makedonia, is too easy to defend. Since then, I've been interested in the eastern factions more, though I am currently taking a short break from EB.

[Chris1959]

Macedonia the starting position is a little to easy, and for some reason Carthage. All through school I was fascinated with the exploits of Hanno, Hannibal et al, I should have been a sucker to play them, yet right from vanilla after a couple of moves I give up. I think it's because the naval side of the game isn't that sophisticated.

[blank]

KH. Only made it to about 225 BC, by that time i was swimming in cash (= autokill campaign usually), and retraining was a real bitch. And Ptolemies attacked Rhodos every single turn...

[KuKulzA]

I liked Lustanna, Sweboz, Aedui, Safot Softim biQarthadast, Sab'Yn, Getai, Sauromatae, Saka Rauka... they can all be enjoyable...

but my favorites would be Getai and Sauromatae

[Spoofa]

Rome, in .81 I played and loved them so much, and with the new features 1.0 would bring i was very excited, but after playing for awhile they just stopped being fun to play, i have yet to play a romani 1.0 campaign past 242

but Makedonia, now THAT'S a different story, I'll always love my fuzzy drunken makedonians