Praparing for the next crusade

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 12-19-2007, 23:11

Two things:

1. Disprespect of others outside the unit and idiotic displays are intregal to any military.

2. Use of military resources to spread a religion is wrong.

Having said that what's wrong with a soldier painting a Chi-Rho or a crucifix on his M-16, if it makes him feel safer I don't see the harm. If he wants to scream "die you filthy heathans" whilst fighting the Taliban I think it's appropriate in a war-zone, he could yell far worse.

Regardless of my own personal brand of faith I think it's important to acknowledge that different people see Christianity in different ways, so long as it's not toally off-whack I'll put up with it.

Oh, and calling a Crusade would be officially "off-whack".

**FactionHeir** · 12-20-2007, 00:42

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Having said that what's wrong with a soldier painting a Chi-Rho or a crucifix on his M-16, if it makes him feel safer I don't see the harm. If he wants to scream "die you filthy heathans" whilst fighting the Taliban I think it's appropriate in a war-zone, he could yell far worse.

Regardless of my own personal brand of faith I think it's important to acknowledge that different people see Christianity in different ways, so long as it's not toally off-whack I'll put up with it.

Oh, and calling a Crusade would be officially "off-whack".

I think I can generally agree with that. Having some religious symbol on your personal weapon isn't too over the top (although some politically corrects may disagree). What is disturbing from the article, is that soldiers are more or less forced to take up Christianity and are not discouraged from insulting members of other religions even at home base. Furthermore, having that quote about invasion, killing their leaders and then converting everyone to Christianity out on display in a base suggests that this is the way people are supposed to act, which of course is morally wrong in my opinion.

Lastly, and most importantly from the article, "teach soldiers that the U.S. military and government are instruments to spread the word of God." is just calling to be shot down by ctitics.

**AntiochusIII** · 12-20-2007, 00:46

Anything Ann Coulter in our military bases is downright criminal period.

I refuse to call her "conservative" because I really really don't want to insult our org conservative patrons here.

**Major Robert Dump** · 12-20-2007, 02:30

Number of time I made a tacky anti-Islam joke at BCT: 8

Number of times a drill sergeant took me aside later and told me to be careful what I said:

Muslim services are offered just like all the others. LeonardWood even had Wiccan every third week. Although, when finding out one Wiccan soldier was upset that he wasn't getting a service that Sunday, a drill sergeant walked over to the grass, picked up a handful of dirt and leaves, walked back to the recruit, threw it in his face and said "Theres your service. Amen."

We happen to be engaged in a war where the enemy is, for the most part, Muslim. Jokes will be made. Deal with it.

At Sam Houston, meanwhile, Muslim services are also offered each week, and there are a few practitioners in our company of 500, and a few more who go because they are genuinely interested in learning about the religion, not to practice it per se, but because were are at war with a people who are, ya know, Muslim and they want to be educated.