Are you a virgin?

[Fragony]

Uhm no. What she says is that they have to realize how their actions are viewed by other people, and that some groups of people view certain actions differently than other groups of people. She doesn't say that women should stop inviting people home, she says that if you invite this and this person home, you should be aware that he might read more into it than that person over there.

And "not a perfect translation" is the understatement of the year. Complete forgery is a better term.

"I don't want to put the blame of these rapes on the women. But norwegian women needs to realize that we're living in a multicultural society, and adopt accordingly"

pretty obvious, it's right there Horetore. Now what do we really have here, where is the part of people from other culture's having to learn how things go in Norway, no it's exactly the other way around, how they experience it is treated as something that cannot be changed, they see it like that, basta. Where is the part about import having to adapt to that multiculture thingie where Norwegian women behave in a certain way. I don't think that even crossed her mind, new circumstances learn to live with it.

[HoreTore]

"I don't want to put the blame of these rapes on the women. But norwegian women needs to realize that we're living in a multicultural society, and adopt accordingly"

pretty obvious, it's right there Horetore. Now what do we really have here, where is the part of people from other culture's having to learn how things go in Norway, no it's exactly the other way around, how they experience it is treated as something that cannot be changed, they see it like that, basta. Where is the part about import having to adapt to that multiculture thingie where Norwegian women behave in a certain way. I don't think that even crossed her mind, new circumstances learn to live with it.

Nope, her view is that while we are working to change their views(integration), we need to realize that they don't have the same view as we do, and act accordingly.

In other words, integration is the goal, but until that goal is met, we have to find a way to live in peace with each other.

And yes, it is true. We have to know how other people react to what we do. Whether that guy is a loud, brutal and arrogant man from Bergen or a muslim man not used to women not wearing a burka. We are working to change both the arrogance from the bergensers, and the sexual views of the muslims, but until that has changed, we have to know how they react to what they do, and yes, adopt accordingly. Just like we have to in every other field in society.

[Fragony]

we need to realize that they don't have the same view as we do, and act accordingly.

Well then we agree on what she says no? Why on earth should we act accordingly? Going to be a rough ride because I am not going to change a damn thing.

[HoreTore]

Well then we agree on what she says no? Why on earth should we act accordingly? Going to be a rough ride because I am not going to change a damn thing.

Well we act accordingly on every other aspect of society, why should this be any different? We treat our boss different from our little brother, we treat our friend different than a stranger, etc etc

[Fragony]

Well we act accordingly on every other aspect of society, why should this be any different? We treat our boss different from our little brother, we treat our friend different than a stranger, etc etc

Because quite simply I have absolutily no intention to change my ways just because somebody decided mass immigration is the bomb, and nobody should ask me to. They don't have to integrate I couldn't care less what they do as long as nothing is expected from me, not my party so don't invite me.

[HoreTore]

Because quite simply I have absolutily no intention to change my ways just because somebody decided mass immigration is the bomb, and nobody should ask me to. They don't have to integrate I couldn't care less what they do as long as nothing is expected from me, not my party so don't invite me.

Well nothing is expected of you except that you should be aware that if you invite a muslim man with little knowledge of norwegian culture home, he might think that you're interested in sex.

And I doubt that would apply much to you anyway

[Fragony]

Well nothing is expected of you

You kidding me?

[Sigurd]

And yes, it is true. We have to know how other people react to what we do. Whether that guy is a loud, brutal and arrogant man from Bergen or a muslim man not used to women not wearing a burka. We are working to change both the arrogance from the bergensers, and the sexual views of the muslims, but until that has changed, we have to know how they react to what they do, and yes, adopt accordingly. Just like we have to in every other field in society.

You know that is just wishful thinking

... 16 Mai 2008

[HoreTore]

You know that is just wishful thinking

It probably is... But by the gods, we shall not stop trying!

... 16 Mai 2008

Also, burn in hell.

[Husar]

I can already see non-westerners in Norway walking along deserted streets because everybody tries to avoid the possible dangers, poor guys, not their fault that they have to rape, pillage and torture, that's culturally genetic, they're just not lords of their own bodies.

[Viking]

I can already see non-westerners in Norway walking along deserted streets because everybody tries to avoid the possible dangers, poor guys, not their fault that they have to rape, pillage and torture, that's culturally genetic, they're just not lords of their own bodies.

Strawman.

[Husar]

Strawman.

Strawman yourself.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Fragony has more brains than the entire European left combined.

[Fragony]

Sarcasm or not that is sigged.

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Can't.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Fragony has more brains than the entire European left combined.

There is truth in that statement, whether it was intended as sarcasm or as a compliment.

[InsaneApache]

*eyes Louis*

*checks out EMFM siggy*

*eyes Louis again*

OK, I want a good clean fight. No kicking, scratching or biting and no hitting below the belt...

*ding*

[Fragony]

There is truth in that statement, whether it was intended as sarcasm or as a compliment.

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