Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
The correlation between longer lives and socialist medicine in Canada does not mean socialized medicine causes longer lives (causation).

CR
Actually, I know what he meant, but that kind of talk makes me dizzy.

It's a combination of factors, obviously, that lead to a longer life span and lower infant mortality rate, but the state of one's access to a good health service should be counted as one of those factors.


Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou
Funny- I don't see anything of the sort in those excerpts.
Perhaps because you're not a roaring left-leaning sentimentalist like me. But I see lots in there that goes beyond the "every-man-for-himself" tenet that some read into the American Dream.

This line for example: laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Beauty! Twice in the DoI they mention the word happiness. How cool is that! How does a conservative (which I feel I may tag you as without worry of insult) interpret that word and its use in a document such as this?