Chavez being Chavez

[JAG]

He didn't though, did he?

No, I mollify my clear authoritarian leaning, big brother wanting, put-a-chip-in-every-person-at-birth-and-watch-them-whenever-they-move, anti-liberal ways by being a member of the most vehmently liberal pressure groups there are. I was a member of Liberty before I was a member of the Labour party and have actively supported it far more than the Labour party as a whole, likewise with Amnesty International. Other groups, such as those highlighting penal reform and also others tackling fascists. It is quite possible for me not to break with a party, in which I agree with the vast majority of the members on a vast majority of the issues, to support liberal issues.

What annoyed me so much before, is that certain people here - including CR - do not want to listen to your views or take into account what you state you believe in, they simply have a narrow minded view of what I must believe and thus cannot understand how I can possibly be a liberal. I hope others understand that it is quite possible to believe that government is a vehicle for good and change for the better, without believing that CCTV's on every corner is a good thing, ID cards are a must and security stop and checks on people who have done nothing wrong are justified under any circumstance, when in reality they are not only fundamentally flawed but an outrageous and disgusting blot on what we call our free and democratic society. Funnily enough I seem to remember arguing these points not only more consistently than CR and his ilk but also often against them on these issues! The mind boggles - and that is why I was so pee'd off.