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    Default Re: Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia

    GH did say in the second french note how not all letters are relevant and some need to be added.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kommodus View Post
    EDIT: Also, what do people think of makaikhaan's very long absence? Usually in GH games, both mafiosi have to send in kills in order to get two kills (unless one of them is dead and the survivor is doing everything). Khaan just vanished for an extended period of time. I would like to know why he's under suspicion.
    GH said that if a mafioso was absent, his dead partner could send in orders. That fragged our innocence via absence assumptions:

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    Figured that I might as well say that if a mafioso is inactive, I'll allow his partner to send in kills for him regardless of state, but that mafioso is still under threat of being Wogged.
    Last edited by TinCow; 06-27-2008 at 14:35.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kommodus View Post
    I was going by posts during the entire round, including night phases. By that method, disco has missed only one round entirely (I think round 2). I don't recall GH's exact criteria for WoGing, but from memory I think disco's minimalist level of participation would be enough to spare him from the axe.



    See, this is what I don't get about you, Kage. GH promised some sort of "twist" at the start of this game. This is the final round, and the word puzzle is the only candidate we have so far for being that twist. The statements in French are always part of Beirut's pronouncements, not part of the mafia's kills, and in GH's games the mafia have never had the sort of total control over the writeups that would be required to create a word puzzle like this.

    So what makes you so convinced that the puzzle is the invention of the mafia?

    I tried taking the list of removed letters, then subtracting from that list the letters that were added back into the four words I mentioned in my earlier post (CIMIR). The resulting jumbled list of letters appeared to almost contain the word INVESTIGATE (except that it was short one T; maybe I'd missed something?). After subtracting the letters of the word INVESTIGATE, I was left with the following letters:

    SANSUE

    Which, again, means nothing to me.

    EDIT: Also, what do people think of makaikhaan's very long absence? Usually in GH games, both mafiosi have to send in kills in order to get two kills (unless one of them is dead and the survivor is doing everything). Khaan just vanished for an extended period of time. I would like to know why he's under suspicion.
    The sole reason being that i dont think GH would mess up mafias game, since this format is hard enough as it is. The word game takes the attention of the smart uns. They focus on it, because they like to solve puzzles and itsd just normal to have a hope off some help even if it wouldnt be there. In my mind it looks like a perfect distraction.
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    12 hours left.
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    I think it's Kage. Disco is also suspicious, but not as much.

    Sarathos - If Makai is mafia that mean's there's two mafiosos left, making this phase meaningless, as someone would've had to send the kill orders to GH. So we can ignore him. (I think, anyway.)

    To me, being gone for a week or more is not his usual tactics.

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    I am honestly shocked and apalled that it is the end phase and we aren't even using correct information to form our opinions.

    The word game is GH's doing. He promised a twist, that is it. It is constantly being referenced in the lynch writeups which the mafia have no control over.

    Makaikhaan can be mafia because his dead partner can send kills in his absence.

    Makaikhaan going MIA for a week was because of an unexpected event coming up. He thought he would have internet connection and he did not. His absence means nothing towards his innocence or guilt.

    okay, ranting over.

    Kommodus, could you run a Holmes scan on the remaining 4 players?

    Our theory of makaikhaan being mafia revolves around his partner being TinCow. TinCow just said he was okay with makaikhaan being lynched. Is this a clever case of reverse psychology or are they not really partners?

    On an individual basis I think Kagemusha is acting the most scummy out of the remaining players but I still can't rap my head around who his partner might be so I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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    I agree with CR and W&F.

    It's probably Kag.

    Lynch him and get this over with.


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    Default Re: Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia

    But who is his partner?
    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    So that its subjects will view it with admiration, as a chicken which has the daring and courage to boldly cross the road,
    but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely
    chicken's dominion maintained. ~Machiavelli

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    Default Re: Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia

    Quote Originally Posted by woad&fangs View Post
    But who is his partner?
    Don't know. But since his partner is dead, that is less important at the moment.


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    Does anyone have a tally from the day Seamus was lynched?
    Why did the chicken cross the road?

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    but also with fear, for whom among them has the strength to contend with such a paragon of avian virtue? In such a manner is the princely
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    According to my records, I have it:

    Seamus: 5 (Seamus, Kage, Beefy*, discovery1, Sigurd)
    KukriKhan: 1 (Curio)
    Sigurd: 1 (Kukri)

    Abstained: 3 (FH, Ichigo, Sarathos)

    Beefy's name is asterisked but I can't remember why. I think it had something to do with him forgetting to unvote.
    Last edited by GeneralHankerchief; 06-27-2008 at 18:04. Reason: added in abstain
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    Default Re: Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia

    Keep in mind that the dead mafioso could have been WoGed instead of lynched. This is less likely for the trio of lurkers, due to the (theoretical) need for a dead mafioso to submit kill orders, but it would fit in just fine with Kage.


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    Vote: Makaikhaan


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    A vote without any comments? Very scummy.

    I'm starting to think we should lynch discovery1 today.
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    Default Re: Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia

    as expected heir. Kage talked me into voting for for khaan.


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    And you are not going to question his words nor the statement of defense TC made or any of the other comments in this thread such ass those by PK and Kommodus?
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    *sigh*

    I weep for the town's future...


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    Eh, at this rate it's probably Sarathos.


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    Quote Originally Posted by discovery1 View Post
    as expected heir. Kage talked me into voting for for khaan.
    In the chat? You should now that's a powerful tool for the mafia to convince people.

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    Also, Kage's defense has rested heavily on his WIFOM assertion that he would not kill townies so as to leave three lurkers left.

    After Mafia I, he told me he killed townies working from a random list. Now, if he followed that strategy, which lead to victory before, again he could easily end up with having three lurkers and himself left.

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    Default Re: Mafia VIII: Return of the Recommencement of the Revenge of the Mafia

    *sigh*

    You're making a big mistake. Echoing what CR, PK and Tincow have said above, it has to Kage. Its my personal opinion that he left himself with three lurkers hoping that they wouldn't show up and that if they did he could talk them round.

    Congratulations remaining townies... you're being strung along.

    What a dismal ending.
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    Voting over.

    Stand by for the execution.
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    Should've lynched Kage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kommodus View Post
    Should've lynched Kage.
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    Sunset.

    Mist swirled around the town square as the lonely four little townies were casting their votes, adding to the gloomy atmosphere present. Even though the mafia had only been present for a little over a week, their effectiveness was excellent. Nature was already beginning to reclaim the Frontroom. Gardens were overgrown. Weeds were beginning to pop up between the various cracks in the concrete. Strands of ivy spread, unchecked.

    None of this was of any concern to Chief of Police Beirut, however, or his four remaining charges. Again, the swirling mist seemed to have more of a voice than the four lonely townies, but this was because there were only four of them left. Four of them. A seemingly weak bulwark against the mist that threatened to engulf and swallow them all up, but all they had was each other.

    And not even that. For out of those four, one, possibly even two of them, was the one who had brought the pestilence in the first place. They were all leaning on each other, but if the one stepped away, they would all collapse. That was the town's goal on this misty evening, to find the saboteur. The killer. Find the killer, and pray that it was the right one, that it was the right one and that they had already gotten his partner.

    Discussion was mostly quiet. The two opposing sides, Kagemusha and makaikhaan, had cast their votes against each other early. Their arguments had been made to discovery1 and Sarathos; khaan in his voice of reason and Kage in his desperate pleas, trying to do some last-minute detective work. Too little, too late, perhaps, unless it was one last deception before his final blow. Disco and Sarathos listened silently, deliberated, and one after another, shuffled to the voting booth and dropped the little papers in. After this task had been completed, Beirut walked over, equally silently. No formal proclamation was needed. They were all past that.

    He read the votes after taking them out of the box.

    "makaikhaan."

    It was all that was said. It was all that needed to be said.

    khaan's reaction was understated, as was appropriate. He simply buried his face in his hands and paused, not walking up to the execution platform. Not yet. Beirut took him by the arm and together they walked to the execution platform, with Beirut not so much dragging him as he had done so many people in the past, but rather helping him.

    No speeches. No formal announcement of the votes. The two men stood up there on the platform, with three more watching below. The dozens of souls that had been there before, stood there in the past, were also present, also silently watching. It was over quickly. Beirut flashed his knife, slit khaan's throat, and watched as he dropped and his life slowly ended.

    All of them watched as khaan's blood seeped off the platform and onto the town square proper. Would it be the last blood spilled?

    Without official dismissal, the last three townies went their separate ways and walked home through the mist, hoping it wouldn't swallow them up whole.

    Four little townies ready to be free,
    But they still had work to do and thus they were three;
    Three little townies, all just about done,
    All of them hoping there wouldn't be one.


    Day 9 tally:
    makaikhaan: 3 (Kagemusha, Sarathos, discovery1)
    Kagemusha: 1 (makaikhaan)

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Still alive: (3)
    Sarathos
    Kagemusha
    discovery1

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    Mithrandir
    Fenring
    Lord Winter
    georgeman51
    Caius
    Tiberius of the Drake
    Kommodus

    Killed:
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    Omanes Alexandrapolites
    Andres
    Craterus
    LittleGrizzly
    TevashSzat
    Crazed Rabbit
    woad&fangs
    Rythmic
    Quintus.J.Cicero
    shlin28
    RoadKill
    CountArach
    Joe Monks
    Beefy187
    Sigurd Fafnesbane
    KukriKhan
    Ichigo

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    Privateerkev
    Elite Ferret
    peverpink
    TinCow
    Sasaki Kojiro
    Seamus Fermanagh
    FactionHeir
    Gaius Scribonius Curio
    makaikhaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Privateerkev View Post
    I agree with CR and W&F.

    It's probably Kag.

    Lynch him and get this over with.
    Quote Originally Posted by woad&fangs View Post
    On an individual basis I think Kagemusha is acting the most scummy out of the remaining players but I still can't rap my head around who his partner might be so I've got to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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    I think it's Kage...
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    Should've lynched Kage.
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    seconded
    In agreement with all of the above. Since we all know it's him, why the suspense GH???
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    All right, we'll compromise. I won't wait the full 24 hours before posting the final scene.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
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    Blast.

    CR
    *waits for the katana killings*
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

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    :rant:

    I was lynched for what exactly? Congrats, Kage, you pulled it again.
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    While we're waiting, allow me to plug Omanes's new game The Brothel. It's a little bit of a change of pace, being themed and having a few more roles for the players that like that.

    It needs players, so head on over and sign up!
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