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    Default Re: I Told Ya So: Texas Man Cleared for Killing Burglars

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Darling Dave, what the hell are you talking about? I was the one saying no jury would convict him, or even bring charges. I was right. That's the entire point of this thread. Lemur = Right. Sheesh, can't you understand that?
    My little Pussy Willow, I was commenting on your other post...
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    Originally Posted by Fragony
    LOL that is a bit much, catidel law?

    Are you referring to the "castle doctrine"? 'Cause that doesn't apply in this case, although many people thought it did. Here's the relevant bit of Texas code:

    According to the statute, deadly force is justified if the shooter "reasonably believes" it's immediately necessary to stop the burglars from escaping with the stolen property. It's also justified if the shooter "reasonably believes" that "the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    My little Pussy Willow, I was commenting on your other post...
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    Originally Posted by Fragony
    LOL that is a bit much, catidel law?

    Are you referring to the "castle doctrine"? [quotes on texas law re: property and defense]
    Dashing, Daring Dave, and this supports your post how? I was quoting the relevant bit of Texas law in support of what the guy did. So how does this justify your "too bad the jury disagrees with you, Lemur" comment?

    Look, I love getting love-bites from you, but please read what I write before nibbling on me, okay?

    Let's get back to more important matters, like how very right I was. I predicted he wouldn't even be charged. Several Orgahs pooh-poohed me at the time. You know who you are! I want all of those Orgahs who said I was wrong to now go to their User Profile and write "Lemur was right" a hundred times.

    -edit-

    Wait a minute, I think I see where the misunderstanding happened. It's all my fault. I said that the "castle doctrine" didn't apply in this case, which is correct. Then I quoted a bit of a different statute, the part that does apply. But I phrased it in such a way that you could read it and think I was quoting the castle doctrine.

    Ugh. My bad! Once again:

    Castle doctrine does not apply in this case.

    However, there is a relevant Texas law which does, and which covers exactly the circumstances which occurred. Here are excerpts from that law:

    According to the statute, deadly force is justified if the shooter "reasonably believes" it's immediately necessary to stop the burglars from escaping with the stolen property. It's also justified if the shooter "reasonably believes" that "the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means."

    Hope that goes some small way to clearing up teh confusion. And I'm still right.
    Last edited by Lemur; 07-01-2008 at 19:24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Dashing, Daring Dave, and this supports your post how? I was quoting the relevant bit of Texas law in support of what the guy did. So how does this justify your "too bad the jury disagrees with you, Lemur" comment?

    Look, I love getting love-bites from you, but please read what I write before nibbling on me, okay?

    Let's get back to more important matters, like how very right I was. I predicted he wouldn't even be charged. Several Orgahs pooh-poohed me at the time. You know who you are! I want all of those Orgahs who said I was wrong to now go to their User Profile and write "Lemur was right" a hundred times.

    -edit-

    Wait a minute, I think I see where the misunderstanding happened. It's all my fault. I said that the "castle doctrine" didn't apply in this case, which is correct. Then I quoted a bit of a different statute, the part that does apply. But I phrased it in such a way that you could read it and think I was quoting the castle doctrine.

    Ugh. My bad! Once again:

    Castle doctrine does not apply in this case.

    However, there is a relevant Texas law which does, and which covers exactly the circumstances which occurred. Here are excerpts from that law:

    According to the statute, deadly force is justified if the shooter "reasonably believes" it's immediately necessary to stop the burglars from escaping with the stolen property. It's also justified if the shooter "reasonably believes" that "the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means."

    Hope that goes some small way to clearing up teh confusion. And I'm still right.
    My misunderstanding, allow me to say...
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    Oh, Lemur was right BTW...
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    Default Re: I Told Ya So: Texas Man Cleared for Killing Burglars

    I don't think it's physically possible for me to get tired of that.

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    Default Re: I Told Ya So: Texas Man Cleared for Killing Burglars

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    I don't think it's physically possible for me to get tired of that.
    Good Lord, DevDave actually went and did it ...

    That makes three of us who are, properly speaking, in and of this thread.
    Last edited by Adrian II; 07-01-2008 at 19:45.
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    In response to the question aimed at me, it's proportional action. If you advocate the death penalty for murder, that I could understand. At one point in my life I felt the same. As SC eloquently put it, killing a bloke for nicking your record player [I'm an old fogey ] is a bit OTT.

    Hey, I just had a thought.......they wern't atheist homos as well were they?
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    Another one who isn't reading what I posted. There is a law in Texas that covers this situation, and it's clearly on his side.
    Yes but he was ignorant of that law wasn't he

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