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    Default Re: I Told Ya So: Texas Man Cleared for Killing Burglars

    Quote Originally Posted by Redleg View Post
    you focused on his age, not his actions. Care to guess the percentage of over 60 that actually still have good eyesight and reactions? But then I am just being a smart***
    Oh, my God, you really don't know when to quit, do you? I don't know the actual percentage but I'd guess it's a fair share.

    the excuse of someone you realizes their arguement was weak in the first place. Why point out age in the arguement about a poor individual judgement, other then to bash the abilities of people of a certain age group.
    No. But if you want to decide for me what I said or meant, feel free. I'm not going to argue that.

    Again nice try but work a little harder - because you just argued yourself into my point. Don't make claims that your not willing to provide evidence and proof that its valid each and every time. You made a generalization about a specific individual without knowning if its actually valid or not. Discuss the man's general poor judgement in taking this action, and wether or not you feel the current law is valid or not. Age was not the issue for this man's actions in the first place.
    I never said it's valid each and every time, just often enough for it to be taken into consideration. Don't argue points I'd never made, it doesn't make sense. I see you're having problems so let me try to explain in more simple terms. Let's say I make a statement "In Russia people are poor" and you are trying to refute my claim by saying "It's not true, Roman Abramovich has 50-60 billions". I know that Roman Abramovich has loads of money, and that there are millions of rich Russian citizens but that doesn't change the fact that generally standard of living in Russia is low. Do you understand? Or I can say "Chemotherapy helps people suffering from tumors". You can think of millions of examples where it didn't help but that doesn't mean that it doesn't help at all. I can make a claim that is generally true, or is true in most cases. It doesn't have to be true in 100% of cases.

    My point was based on a simple logical premise:

    A big portion of people over 60 have problems with their eyesight, with hand-eye coordination etc...

    Mr. X is over 60

    Therefore there is a decent chance that Mr. X could have problems with his eyesight.

    Understand? Comprende? Verstehen Sie?

    No, it doesn't mean that in 100% of cases people don't aim properly when they're over 60, I never said that, so lay off unless you can prove that peoples eyesight usually doesn't deteriorate in that age, because that was my point. And when there are other peoples lives at stake, even 10% is enough for me to make a case. I don't want to think about whether my kid is going to be close when tenth trigger happy idiot refuse to listen to the police and goes on a killing spree. As I said in my first post, they should lock him up and throw away the key.
    Last edited by Sarmatian; 07-03-2008 at 14:20.

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