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    Default Re: Is necessary to destroy the existing government?

    Quote Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius View Post
    Destroying it and building a new one takes time and (more) money than just repairing it.

    Yes it's an exploit, but it's a more efficient choice.
    So is cheating, doesn't mean its better. Besides as I said, regardless of who built all government buildings (except for nomad ones) can be shared between any faction. If you are a greek faction and you conquer a celtic province with a celtic government you can still use it just like your own. However using it is still considered an exploit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot View Post
    So is cheating, doesn't mean its better. Besides as I said, regardless of who built all government buildings (except for nomad ones) can be shared between any faction. If you are a greek faction and you conquer a celtic province with a celtic government you can still use it just like your own. However using it is still considered an exploit.

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    I know it's an exploit. I know it's "cheating". I was just saying from a pure efficiency viewpoint it's the optimal choice.
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    Default Re: Is necessary to destroy the existing government?

    Quote Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius View Post
    I know it's an exploit. I know it's "cheating". I was just saying from a pure efficiency viewpoint it's the optimal choice.
    Yet you still havent explained why its only more efficient if the government is of the same culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foot View Post
    Yet you still havent explained why its only more efficient if the government is of the same culture.

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    No culture penalty, even if it's tiny compared to that produced by the governor's building.
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    Default Re: Is necessary to destroy the existing government?

    Quintus, Foot has a very valid point, keeping the government of the deposed leadership may be efficient but it is neither ethical, nor historically accurate. When the Romans conquered a Celtic tribe do you think they would allow the same people who fought them to continue to rule completely unmolested by the government back in Rome, no the Romans would appoint a Roman governor, and drive the former ruling class into the dust. So the best and most ethical way to represent this as an EB player is to destroy the old government and replace it with your own government.
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    Default Re: Is necessary to destroy the existing government?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aodhan View Post
    Quintus, Foot has a very valid point, keeping the government of the deposed leadership may be efficient but it is neither ethical, nor historically accurate. When the Romans conquered a Celtic tribe do you think they would allow the same people who fought them to continue to rule completely unmolested by the government back in Rome, no the Romans would appoint a Roman governor, and drive the former ruling class into the dust. So the best and most ethical way to represent this as an EB player is to destroy the old government and replace it with your own government.
    I never said it was anything but efficient. As before, yes it's an exploit, yes it's against the spirit of the game, yes it's ahistorical, yes it's unethical. It's underhand, but that doesn't stop it being an optimal use of resources.
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    Default Re: Is necessary to destroy the existing government?

    How relevant is this discussion? Much ado about nothing.

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