Another fun chart

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Right, boys, cold shower. Let's keep it civil.

To get back to DC's post about the social contract issue. So, you are of the opinion, that your right to carry guns will allow you to defend yourself and your possessions against intruding agents. However, while the original purpose of gun ownership (to allow the people to protect themselves from a tyrannical government) is very respectable, if you did attempt to shoot a police officer who entered your house unannounced no amount of appeals to the constitution would help you avoid conviction.

There was just a thread on this a couple weeks ago--a drug dealer who shot and killed a police man who busted into his house was let off.

The other issue you point at, the abundance of gun crime in places that have banned it, seems self evident. You cannot ban guns in a small part of the country, and do nothing elsewhere. This will only attract armed crime to this - now defenseless - city.

It should be evident that you can't ban guns at all in the US. We have giant borders to the north and south. We can't keep drugs and illegal immigrants out, you think we can keep guns out?

Hey, how many times have you all had to defend yourselves from an attacker *EDIT: what's more, when a gun was the only suitable defense and a melee weapon would not have sufficed?

Just about any time a woman is attacked by a man a melee weapon will not suffice. Same with an attack by multiple people. Guns equalize things. I'd rather have a pistol against two guys with machine guns than a knife against two with knives. Common sense.

I know the American media suggests the opposite, but not everyone is out to get you.

No one thinks they are, nice job trying to paint all Americans as paranoid nutjobs though.

Also, a city with a ban on guns isn't 'defenseless', there are such things as police forces but I know you all think you are more competent than those trained professionals, it doesn't surprise when such experts accidentally shoot family members while defending their property and all things American.

The police are limited in how much protection they can provide.