The Midgard Saga II [Concluded]

[FactionHeir]

What's the tally again`?

A few seconds late.

[Kagemusha]

But GH let us know something about the PM's. He didn't have to do that.

The point is not what we know about the pm´s. but what he knows. It doesnt hurt him if we know what he knows, but it hurts the town more what he knows if he is one of the bad guys. Defending Moteps immediate fake looking pm is something enough to cast a shadow of suspicion to GH, Asking for additional characters to reveal themselves, only stregthen that shadow.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm almost certain that Motep is who he says he is.

[Motep]

Recent evidence leads me to also suspect Faction Heir....

Though I am the most inclined to suspect GH at this point.

[discovery1]

UnVote: Tratorix
Vote:Crazed Rabbit

[Craterus]

unvote: Motep, vote: CR

Sorry, gotta sacrifice CR. New evidence has got me to believe Motep's reveal is genuine. I suggest you all do the same and unvote.

Grill me about this later but as I understand it, time is running out.

[FactionHeir]

What is this "recent" evidence everyone is talking about out of a sudden?

And why is Motep more genuine than Tratorix who posted his reveal first with Motep copying his reveal?

Also, since Motep's alledged champion is online and didn't get back to me, something doesn't seem right.

[Privateerkev]

I think he was just fishing to see if he could make me slip up, working under the assumption that I forged the role pm. He didn't reveal anything that I saw.

Whether he was fishing or not, it still helped me figure something out.

We can always revisit GH later. One lynch at a time...

*edit*

aww crap...

unvote: Motep
vote: crazed rabbit

[Sigurd]

--------- Voting over ----------

Last valid vote was Craterus' abstain.

Give me a moment or two ... or three.
Wifey just called on the phone from England... This could take a while.

You can start challenging

[TinCow]

Can someone figure out the tally at Sigurd's cutoff? Who did we just lynch?

[Privateerkev]

Wow... that was nuts....

[Motep]

That was one hell of an hour...or two...

I lost track of time.

Fun as hell, though

[FactionHeir]

That means Tratorix was lynched due to discovery1's vote.

I think we should go after Motep and his "champion" next as I'm thinking that reason his champion isn't responding is because he isn't and thus hasn't got such a role PM. No reason not to reveal privately considering I already know his identity.

[Craterus]

Hmm, so none of that made a difference.

I guess the lynch write-up will indicate the allegiance of Tratorix (assuming glyphz has the correct tally).

Another mistake for the town, I think, but we'll see.

What's the basis for suspecting FH? I can understand why people think GH is scummy, but not him?

[discovery1]

My apologies for voting Tratorix at first. It was a mistake.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Challenge: FH

It's what you guys probably want anyway.

[Privateerkev]

So does anyone else think FactionHeir is being scummy?

need to think...

[Kagemusha]

I think we screwed up big time and lynched Tratorix.

[Motep]

I think we screwed up big time and lynched Tratorix.

That would be most unfortunate for the town...

Who voted for him even after his reveal? I shall look

[FactionHeir]

From my PM box by the same guy:



So does anyone else think FactionHeir is being scummy?

Edit: My apologies for voting Tratorix at first. It was a mistake.

Since you are now public with my PM and thus the possibility of your role (though still unconfirmed), doesn't it look rather obvious why we would want you to verify that you really are Motep's champion?

I still think you and Motep are likely Jotun unless you can prove otherwise.

Reasons:
1. Motep's role PM was almost an exact copy of Tratorix plus he didn't have anything above his name.
2. You, his champion, don't seem to be able to prove that you are a champion. Maybe because noone posted a champion PM yet you can copy?

[Motep]

I think the Jootun are GH, and PK. Maybe FH, but I doubt it. I believe he may just be trying to help the town, but their is serious potential for an ulterior motive in his words

[Kagemusha]

Hopefully this fiasco revealed possibly two Jotuns, namely Motep and GH. Im not sure about Disco, but would a Jotun try to cover behind an unknown character? possibly, but in any case the main suspects are Motep and GH, no matter how helpful Holmgang opponent GH is trying to be with his Jotun stats.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Hopefully this fiasco revealed possibly two Jotuns, namely Motep and GH. Im not sure about Disco, but would a Jotun try to cover behind an unknown character? possibly, but in any case the main suspects are Motep and GH, no matter how helpful Holmgang opponent GH is trying to be with his Jotun stats.

Allow me to channel my inner Tribesman for a moment:

[Motep]

With GH challenging FH, and my main suspicions being on GH, I would have to assume that GH is trying to silence the Townie because he is actaull active and unraveling his plans to kill first Tratorix then me.

So, I Challenge GH

with a holmang of 7, I might have a chance

[TinCow]

I think the Jootun are GH, and PK. Maybe FH, but I doubt it. I believe he may just be trying to help the town, but their is serious potential for an ulterior motive in his words

I do not think PK is Jotun. We have been exchanging PMs for the last 30 mins or so about all this ridiculousness, and in the process he revealed to me. His role PM looks legit to me, as much as any role PM can. He would not have had time to make up that role PM while responding to me, and it contains information that he could not have had unless he had access to a real one.

[Kagemusha]

Allow me to channel my inner Tribesman for a moment:

Well then answer why you defended Motep, while accusing Tratorix? If The first pm of Tratorix posted is almost 100% right, while the second you deemed authentic is actually completely authentic, how on earth Tratorix sourcered the first one out from thin air?

[Motep]

I still suspect PK, but that is all it is, a gut feeling. Dont read much into it, considering his scumminess comes after GH's, so he might have just been decieved by GH.

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm why would PK reveal to you TC?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Well then answer why you defended Motep, while accusing Tratorix? If The first pm of Tratorix posted is almost 100% right, while the second you deemed authentic is actually completely authentic, how on earth Tratorix sourcered the first one out from thin air?

a) Tratorix has already proven his knowledge of all things Norse by pointing out supposed fallacies in Motep's PM by saying that kings come from different eras. He could have easily come up with a name and reworded his PM.

b) I don't like the whole Norse stuff at the top he was talking about.

c) I think, from the format and not the content of Motep's PM, we can reasonably assume that it was written by Sigurd. Not the case with Tratorix's.

[Privateerkev]

Here is a quick tally:

Tratorix: 6
Motep: 2
KK: 1
TC: 1
Abstain: 2
Disco: 1
GH: 1
CR: 4
SR: 2
Kag: 1
Curio: 1
PK: 3