The Midgard Saga II [Concluded]

[Csargo]

No, no one else bounced their votes around like CA did. I'm sorry he ended up being a God. But I did what I thought was the best thing with what little information I had.

As for hurting the town, don't put all of it on me. People need to take responsibility for their own suspicious behavior. If CA was not a God, or Tratorix not a King, no one would have blamed me for trying to lynch them. CA was an erratic vote changer and Tratorix was absent from the board when the Jotun were missing night actions.

Both of their behavior was suspicious and would have raised eyebrows in any other mafia game. Their roles make their deaths regrettable but do not eliminate the fact that both of these players behaved suspiciously.

If a player has a powertown role, he needs to think carefully about how his actions are perceived by the other players. That is his responsibility.

I can only act on what I know. If a powertown wants to avoid my gaze, and maintain his hidden status, he better not act "scummy." Because in the meantime I have Jotun to lynch and I will ferret them out using the ways I know.

Everyone changes votes throughout the game, just because CA did it more, how did that make him more suspicious? It was the first round so there's not much to go on, and so you'd expect people to make multiple vote changes.

That's just funny. It's their fault that you voted for them. You make me laugh Everyone has different things they think make someone suspicious. It's all your own judgment, not their fault your judgment was bad.

Like I said before what you think may be scummy, may not be to them.

[Privateerkev]

Everyone changes votes throughout the game, just because CA did it more, how did that make him more suspicious? It was the first round so there's not much to go on, and so you'd expect people to make multiple vote changes.

That's just funny. It's their fault that you voted for them. You make me laugh Everyone has different things they think make someone suspicious. It's all your own judgment, not their fault your judgment was bad.

Like I said before what you think may be scummy, may not be to them.

Yes, people are responsible for their actions in the thread. (or lack of actions as the case may be.)

With so little real evidence to go on, I vote for people based on their actions. I don't like abstaining or meatballing so I try to find real reasons to vote. Even on D1. In my opinion, this is more helpful than just abstaining. So the person I voted for ended up being powertown. I did not know that at the time and their actions were incrementally more suspcious than other actions.

I admit the matter of what is "suspicious" is highly subjective but what else are we supposed to do?

As for GH, he seems less Jotun the more he argues. I am more convinced he is a bored townie. But that does not negate the fact that Holmgangs seem to do more harm to the town than good.

If it is true that a Holmgang will not reveal a Jotun, then we can't even use it for that reason. The only thing we can use it for is to have the tiny chance of killing a Jotun. But that is only if one chooses to fight. It seems that we are far more likely to slaughter each other using the Holmgang. And I am sure the Jotun are sitting back and laughing their heads off as we do it. Because every townie that dies in Holmgang makes their job easier. Just like every townie that dies by WoG makes their job easier.

[Sigurd]

Challenges do far:

1. GeneralHankerchief vs. FactionHeir
2. Motep vs. GeneralHankerchief
3. Andres vs. GeneralHankerchief
4. Eliit Tuhkur vs. GeneralHankerchief

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Challenges do far:

1. GeneralHankerchief vs. FactionHeir
2. Motep vs. GeneralHankerchief
3. Andres vs. GeneralHankerchief
4. Eliit Tuhkur vs. GeneralHankerchief

Setting aside the "does holmgang work as a townie tactic" discussion, the above list of potential fights has wonderful narrative possibilities. I hope Sigurd revels in it.



Edit: That's what I get for replying to a page 17 post without reading page 18. I won't hold you to it, QIC, but if you must let us at least use axes...or just fists.

[Quintus.JC]

Challenge: Seamus Fermanagh

edit: Am I allowed to do this for no reason?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Aw, dude... you just ruined everything.

-edit- Why is it I seem to always get the post at the top of the page?

[Sigurd]

------------- Night time ended --------------

No more PMs will be accepted (yeah.. the messages not the condition ).
Writeups will soon be posted.

[FactionHeir]

Eh what does that mean "the condition"?

[Sigurd]

Round 3




The Danes weren’t quite happy over letting a Jorvik man take the blame for murdering one of their men. But they were satisfied that his origin appeared to be Norwegian.
They started dispersing and passed a few men from Sveariket who laughed at something. The already angered Danes wanted more blood and started shouting at the laughing men. But the retinues of the other kingdoms were getting tiered of the whining of what sounded wet nursed babies. A few of the Rus got in between the Danes and and the Swedes and there were a little shoving and pushing. One of the Swedes, GeneralHankerchief had a hand touch him one too many times than he tolerated and blurted out: “You son of a female dog, I shall cut your manhood off and feed it to your mother.” The Rus who took this personally, responded: “I shall ram my fist up where the sun doesn’t shine, you lover of men and pigs”. FactionHeir was seemingly agitated. GeneralH responded with a fist well placed on FactionHeir’s jaw who toppled backwards.
But he was soon back on his feet with an axe in hand. “I am of the Rus and we kill the likes of you yellow man lovers before breaking our fast. Show that you have a pair.” GeneralH shouted to his companions for an axe. “Let’s show these half-bears who is masters with the axe”. FactionHeir rushed forward with the well known and proved Varangian cut that had surprised many foreign warriors and left them to rot on the battlefield. GeneralH knew this manoeuvre well and its counter. He dived into the attack and barely slipped under the axe blade before doing a backward thrust as he went under the arms of FactionHeir. The blade of the axe hit where intended and made a deep gash in FactionHeir’s armpit. FactionHeir howled in pain and swung round with a deadly onehander trying to open GeneralH’s bowels. GeneralH jumped back just in time and the powerful swing that found no target put FactionHeir out of balance and exposed his side. GeneralHankerchief swung his axe downwards and nearly severed FactionHeir’s thigh. FactionHeir dropped his axe from the pain in his thigh and GeneralH finished the match by opening FactionHeir’s scull from his forehead to the throat.
In one fraction of a second FactionHeir could feel the surging flash of pain in his forehead, and then oblivion.

The law speaker rushed to the scene but too late. “I take it you had a quarrel with this man?” The Swede called GeneralHankerchief answered: “Not really, He just pissed me off and I have been cooped up in this place too long. I needed some exercise.” The Swedes around him laughed.” The law speaker turned around shaking his head; “Damned be the Norse.”


As the entourages went back to their camps and settled down, a short man was seen skulking around the Rus camp. The Rus were a little upset that one of their own, all though not too well known by any of them, but still a Rus had been brutally cut down like that, and for nothing. Rythmic was especially displeased and contemplated what to do. That fight could hardly be counted as Holmgang and hence the rules of feuds would not apply. He took a slurp of the fine wine he had brought from Constantinople, where he had been just before coming here to this God forsaken island of lava and hot springs. This really looked like the Gehenna he had read about. Maybe this was the place where demons lived. He scanned the horizon looking for movement, but saw none. He suddenly felt exceptionally tired and found his tent where he lay down on his bedroll. Tiredness overcame him and he felt the darkness surround him.
He floated in darkness and was surprised that he was aware of this. This was a strange dream he thought. A pinprick of light appeared in the darkness and he felt curiously attracted to it. As he felt the desire to be where the light were, there were a rush and with an immense speed, he moved towards it. The light grew bigger and bigger and more bright as he neared. Suddenly he was somewhere … safe? He hears a male voice: “Well, Foresters are a dime a dozen here, we have never had a lawyer before”, then laughter.
What was this place?




Killed: (3)

Twilightblade (R1)
Caius (R2)
Rythmic (R3)

Killed by Holmgang: (2)

makaikhaan (R1)
FactionHeir (R2)

Lynched: (2)

CountArach (R1)
Tratorix (R2)

Living: (29)

Andres
Craterus
Crazed Rabbit
discovery1
El Diablo
Eliit Tuhkur
Fenring
Gaius Scribonius Curio
GeneralHankerchief
glyphz
Husar
Ichigo
Kagemusha
Kukrikhan
LittleGrizzly
Motep
Omanes Alexandrapolites
pevergreen
Privateerkev
Proletariat
Quintus.J.Cicero
Sarathos
scottishranger
Seamus Fermanagh
shlin28
TevashSzat
TinCow
Warmaster Horus
woad&fangs


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Commence voting players. Be mindful of the deadline at 2000 GMT Thursday 14th of August.

[Motep]

Yes, now the hanky might not fight. Crying shame, that.

And, unfortuanately, my normal tactic in being relatively quite has been ruined by the many swords pointing at my neck.

[Csargo]

ROFL. I bet QJC and Seamus end up in the Holmgang.

[LittleGrizzly]

ROFL. I bet QJC and Seamus end up in the Holmgang.

that would be hysterical, i wasn't sure if QJC was making a point or being serious... i guess this answers my question...

[TinCow]

I don't even know how to respond to this latest development. If QJC is a townie, he just screwed up what was a reasonably acceptable Holmgang situation for the town. If he's Jotun, he's risking making himself look unbelievably guilty if his challenge is chosen and he wins. I'm going to cross my fingers and hope for the latter, though deep down I suspect it is the former.

[Warmaster Horus]

Me too. And I can bet that GH will challenge semi-randomly, and almost the same discussion about holmganging will happen in about 26 hours.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Me too. And I can bet that GH will challenge semi-randomly, and almost the same discussion about holmganging will happen in about 26 hours.

Nah, if this scenario plays out I'll be lynched for "unhelpfulness" (which is another word for "we know he's not Jotun, but we're too lazy to actually do the hard work and diversify our targets") before I get the chance.

[glyphz]

Challenge: Seamus Fermanagh

edit: Am I allowed to do this for no reason?

You can. I believe Sigurd will take care of the write-up if your challenge gets pick.
Do note that your challenge and/or reasoning might piss a few people, and garner attention probably similar to GH's

edit: talk about slow typing, 7 responses already before I can post a reply to QJC's...

[GeneralHankerchief]

Although to be fair, Seamus is high on my list for potential Jotun suspects and will probably get my vote if I live through the night.

[TinCow]

Although to be fair, Seamus is high on my list for potential Jotun suspects and will probably get my vote if I live through the night.

Please elaborate. I remember seeing some questioning of him before, but it has since been buried. It would be nice to get a fresh discussion going, so a rehash would be welcome.

[Quintus.JC]

Try to look on the bright side... if there are any.

[Sigurd]

Challenges submitted thus far:

1. GeneralHankerchief vs. FactionHeir
2. Motep vs. GeneralHankerchief
3. Andres vs. GeneralHankerchief
4. Eliit Tuhkur vs. GeneralHankerchief
5. Quintus.J.Cicero vs. Seamus Fermanagh