White America will be minority by 2042

[rvg]

things might not bet banned by law but companies assure that the more...."extreme" stuff doesn´t make it to the market place.....it might not be the law but the practical effect is the same.

I suggest you watch a documentary called "this movie is not yet rated"....which deals with the behavior of the American movie ratings board and how it basically "bans" some movies from getting a theatrical showing by slapping it with an NC-17 code....no standards are defined for the attribution of this level...and the jury members identities remain secret...very free indeed.....the entire documentary is available for free on Google Video...I suggest you take a look.

as far as free goes....I´ll just say that in my country the elected president is always the person that wins the popular vote of the entire people....unlike some examples I could think off....*cough*electoral college*cough*

Yeah-yeah, go ahead and make fun of the Electoral College. We deserve it. I never said our system was perfect tho. Just beter than anything else out there.

As for the NC-17 rating, it cuts the minors off the movie audience list, but the movie is still available to play in theaters and for rentals. It is not a bad in any way, shape or form.

[Ronin]

And rightfully so there's a place for nudity and regular TV isn't it. There plenty of channels that will let you get your freak on, but prime time TV is not the place. America has a place for everything. Wanna bang hookers all day? Go to Nevada. Wanna smoke dope? Go to Cali and tell the first doctor that you're suffering depression from the death of your goldfish. Smoke away. Your freedom to do questionable stuff should not interfere with *my* freedom of being protected from that stuff. When my daughter watches TV I *expect* those channels to be squeaky clean both in terms of language and skin. What happened to Ms Jackson provoked a "hissy fit" not because of her nipple, but because a principle has been violated. Around here, principles matter. Alot. try more smilies next time. Maybe it'll help you make a better point.

so you're free to smoke weed....but you have to lie and fake a medical condition to get your hands on it legally....

...freedom is ok....but if a boob....you remember those...they are a normal part of the human anatomy is shown on tv for half a second on a totally accidental and non-sexual event the entire country goes bananas....


I´m sorry but there´s defending principles and then there´s just simple hypocrisy.....

when the Janet Jackson debacle happened I was so surprised by the level of outrage that I looked for the footage mediately....judging by the level of the outcry I was expecting Justin to bend her over a chair and do her doggy-style.....I was somewhat disappointed by what actually transpired.....the second time I saw it...because the first time I blinked and missed it.

[Ronin]

Yeah-yeah, go ahead and make fun of the Electoral College. We deserve it. I never said our system was perfect tho. Just beter than anything else out there.

errr...? direct election anyone?...you know...one man...one vote...you count them and whoever has more wins....seems to work fine over here.

[Ronin]

Gentlemen: let's do a little less prideful chest-beating and america-bashing, and more discussion of the implications of the US's changing demographic - the original topic.

very well....

American is a melting pot from people from all over the world....so this should be a problem.....it´s a long term and natural progress....it´s not like something said that whites would stop being the majority like tomorrow *gasp*horror*

[Tribesman]

Gentlemen: let's do a little less prideful chest-beating and america-bashing, and more discussion of the implications of the US's changing demographic - the original topic.

Oh come on Kukri , is it right to not allow people to rip the piss out of that nonsense rvg posted once its been entered into the discussion
It isn't america bashing anyway , its just bashing the rather silly views of one american .

[rvg]

Oh come on Kukri , is it right to not allow people to rip the piss out of that nonsense rvg posted once its been entered into the discussion
It isn't america bashing anyway , its just bashing the rather silly views of one american .

So far you have provided nothing to contradict my views i.e. showing just one nation that does freedom better than we do.

[KukriKhan]

Arguing the superiority or inferiority of comparative governmental and cultural systems (and their boosters) is another topic. Not this one.

[rvg]

Arguing the superiority or inferiority of comparative governmental and cultural systems (and their boosters) is another topic. Not this one.

Fine, fine. Back to topic....White people getting outnumbered? Big deal. Most will not care and rightfully so.

[yesdachi]

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Modesty

[ajaxfetish]

I am amazed at the apparent ease with which some Americans are prepared to do away with English as the leading language, if pushed. This while the rest of the world is busy learning English because it is the lingua franca of business and communication, and will be for a long time. It also seems as if they don't care much for the historic and cultural baggage that comes with the English language, as if the two could somehow be neatly separated.

I don't think it's so much a willingness to do away with English, as much as it is a confidence that English doesn't really need protecting. English remains the prime language of literature, education, business, commerce, broadcast, etc. in this country after all these years and all these influences from other cultures, in spite of never being made the nation's official language and never having a government ministry established to regulate it. Similarly to other posters, I've noticed that while many from the first generation of immigrants fail to learn English, it's rare for those of subsequent generations to do the same, and children are often the most available and reliable interpreters when dealing with their parents. English is the language of opportunity, and most people want more access to money, entertainment, education, or whatnot, so there's a strong motivation to learn English in this country without official endorsement. The fact that the rest of the world is busy learning English as a second language just offers one more reason to trust the language to survive on its own.

It also helps that it has a tradition as a very adaptable language, from its fusion of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, and French back in the day to all the influence of languages from around the world now. In the cases where Spanish has a word for something English does not or has a cooler word for something English does, English simply adopts the Spanish term and carries on. I think a more highly regulated language would likely resist such adoption and prove less survivable in the long run.

Also, there's no reason to think that English is inherently superior to Spanish, nor that culture and ethnicity are necessarily tied to language. At least ideally, America is all about freedom and competition, and if the Spanish language were to prove itself superior to English, well then it has both the opportunity to do so, and also the requirement to win us all over to its use. Short of that, there's also nothing wrong with a country having more than one principal language, and the US population could afford to be more multilingual.

Ajax

[rvg]

There is more to life than just surviving. These landscapers probably didn’t make squat had no benefits and have little chance of getting a real job and becoming a productive member of society without being able to communicate.

My Bosnian neighbor struggled with the language but his wife caught on fast. She was able to get a nice office job with AC in the summer and heat in the winter, benefits, vacations, etc. he was barley able to hold a job in a factory with the constant threat of layoffs and no temp control or benefits. Eventually he was able to get a better job but he use to joke with me about the most important things for him about America were learning the language and visiting the dentist (he had bad teeth and no dentist back in Bosnia).

Language is important unless you want to be 1 of 4 landscapers that probably live like crap. Personally I don’t want any of my fellow citizens to have to live like a slave to honcho and be stuck doing low paying manual labor until they grow old and die at 40 leaving their kids in poverty.

That is absolutely true. However the hardship that they experience due to their deficiency in English is not my problem and none of my concern. If they want substandard living, they are free to have it. If they want to improve their lot in life, they are free to do so. I do not see however why in the world the people and much less the government should compel them to excel. I say leave them be and let them decide what is best for them.

[Strike For The South]

This thread wasn't about race in the first place, and it shouldn't be, okay guys?

I am amazed at the apparent ease with which some Americans are prepared to do away with English as the leading language, if pushed. This while the rest of the world is busy learning English because it is the lingua franca of business and communication, and will be for a long time. It also seems as if they don't care much for the historic and cultural baggage that comes with the English language, as if the two could somehow be neatly separated.

Because we know it really wont go away. We are seeing these peoples cultrual habits change before our very eyes

[Strike For The South]

Err.. I only question their ability to administrate. I'm not sure how abreast you keep yourself of the state of Mexican governance, but I wouldn't call it ideal. Also, my personal experience with black leadership is echoed in countless communities throughout America, including many large cities.

They say this country was built by immigrants of every flavor. That is only correct if you are using the literal meaning of built. This country was planned, engineered, and managed by white Europeans - and it's worked out pretty well for us so far. I'm not sure if many people realize how fragile, intricate and subtle our structure is, or how easily a nation can descend into disarray. Happens all the time, and America is not as special as some think.

I, for one, welcome our new colorful overlords; I just hope they work within our system.

I have the utmost confidence in smart men and their ability to administrate. I believe America is special. I believe the reason we are at the top of the food chain today is becuase people escaped oppersion in thier lands and came to ours determined to make something of themselves and just becuase todays immigrants are brown does not mean their mindset is any different. America is not Europe there immigrants are different than ours. their entire suituation is different. So to say America is just a European nation across the pond is a fallacy we are better than them

[rvg]

I have the utmost confidence in smart men and their ability to administrate. I believe America is special. I believe the reason we are at the top of the food chain today is becuase people escaped oppersion in thier lands and came to ours determined to make something of themselves and just becuase todays immigrants are brown does not mean their mindset is any different. America is not Europe there immigrants are different than ours. their entire suituation is different. So to say America is just a European nation across the pond is a fallacy we are better than them

/amen

[Caius]

Now, is there a problem with Hispanos being more than US? Is there a kind of pride that doesnt make you tolerate them?

[Viking]

Now, is there a problem with Hispanos being more than US? Is there a kind of pride that doesnt make you tolerate them?

Have you sir read the thread?

[Leet Eriksson]

I have the utmost confidence in smart men and their ability to administrate. I believe America is special. I believe the reason we are at the top of the food chain today is becuase people escaped oppersion in thier lands and came to ours determined to make something of themselves and just becuase todays immigrants are brown does not mean their mindset is any different. America is not Europe there immigrants are different than ours. their entire suituation is different. So to say America is just a European nation across the pond is a fallacy we are better than them

Close this thread.

FOR AMERICA.

and texas.