The Midgard Saga II [Concluded]

[KukriKhan]

So, in kev-land, GH and Motep are bad townies, because they don't cooperate with you, Kage is a good guy because he does, and the rest of us deserve our fate.

I admire the rhetorical flourish, especially:

I welcome death just so I don't have to keep being the whipping boy

brilliant. Though a little self-centered. Which seems OOC for you.

With 3 challanges to face, it seems almost certain you will fight this day. If you expect death at the hands of GH, Motep or Sarathos, maybe now is a good time to reveal, so that you can talk about it after-death, and help the town.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I think I'm going to take it in stride and wear that "worst townie ever" badge with honor, PK. Although I wish you had played more than three big games because then it would have meant even more.

-edit- Kukri, Sarathos is challenging pevergreen, not PK. So there is a chance that he won't fight.

[KukriKhan]

D'oh. I am an idiot. OK then, PK has only a 2 out of 3 chance of fighting.

[LittleGrizzly]

Have to apologise for my absence for the vote, i did have a chance to have a quick look in but didn't want to vote without putting some thought or explanation into it, are people going to give a little explanation for challenging or is it ok just to challenge without a reason...

[CountArach]

It is fine to challenge without a reason, if you don't mind getting lynched

[LittleGrizzly]

Im unsure on Sarathos challenge, i don't know his role but i believe pever is a townie, he mentions something about wog so i don't know if he's claiming he's after someone who may be killed anyway, but i would say if someone could be wog'd leave them alone, maybe he'll come alive before the wog is active...

but anyway onto GH and Motep challenges, Motep is a well known king and GH is a well known champion, im inclined to believe both are not lieing about that, although some of thier behaviour has had me wondering..., have both challenged PK who im pretty sure is just a regular townie or some other lowly pro town role, the worst part i think it that this isn't done because he's believed to be Jotun, but because GH had a disagreement with PK so is holding some kind of grudge and well Motep i really haven't got a clue, from my pov motep has no logical stratergy just a kind of all over the place effect, which could be some kind of disorientating stratergy but that just screams mafia to me...

[FactionHeir]

but anyway onto GH and Motep challenges, Motep is a well known king [...] from my pov motep has no logical stratergy just a kind of all over the place effect, which could be some kind of disorientating stratergy but that just screams mafia to me...

[naut]

If Motep is a well known King, why in the blue blazes hasn't the Jotun taken him out yet?! It doesn't quite make sense.

[Craterus]

Im unsure on Sarathos challenge, i don't know his role but i believe pever is a townie, he mentions something about wog so i don't know if he's claiming he's after someone who may be killed anyway, but i would say if someone could be wog'd leave them alone, maybe he'll come alive before the wog is active...

but anyway onto GH and Motep challenges, Motep is a well known king and GH is a well known champion, im inclined to believe both are not lieing about that, although some of thier behaviour has had me wondering..., have both challenged PK who im pretty sure is just a regular townie or some other lowly pro town role, the worst part i think it that this isn't done because he's believed to be Jotun, but because GH had a disagreement with PK so is holding some kind of grudge and well Motep i really haven't got a clue, from my pov motep has no logical stratergy just a kind of all over the place effect, which could be some kind of disorientating stratergy but that just screams mafia to me...

Thanks for reminding me about this post, Sarathos.

I'm suspicious, Grizz.

Firstly, you would seem to prefer that challenges were used on more active targets, even though this hurts the town. Perhaps hoping that one will die from WoG and another from Holmgang. That would certainly be helpful to the Jotun cause.

Secondly, you say you believe the reveals of both GH and Motep but then say:

from my pov motep has no logical stratergy just a kind of all over the place effect, which could be some kind of disorientating stratergy but that just screams mafia to me

[Husar]

Vote: Seamus Fermanagh

for being unusually idle. Usually he keeps analyzing the situation, this time, nothing much.

[Privateerkev]

So, in kev-land, GH and Motep are bad townies, because they don't cooperate with you, Kage is a good guy because he does, and the rest of us deserve our fate.

No, they are bad townies because they insist on killing townies when we really don't need to. Holmgangs are optional. We don't have to use them. When you add up 2 Jotuns kills, 1 Holmgang, 1 lynch, and an average of 1 WoG, that is 5 dead townies every "round." We simply can not sustain that rate for much longer. So, those that encourage us to keep that rate up, are "bad townies."

With 3 challanges to face, it seems almost certain you will fight this day. If you expect death at the hands of GH, Motep or Sarathos, maybe now is a good time to reveal, so that you can talk about it after-death, and help the town.

I did...

And GH, you don't need to play a lot of large mafia games to do some simple math and figure out that you have ramped up our "townie burn rate" for your own amusement. Therefore, "worst townie ever" is a label you have, IMHO, earned. But I'm glad you don't mind. I will be more glad though if you actually help us win. I am sorry you find being a simple townie so boring that you feel you need to actually decrease the town's chances of winning, just so you can have a bit of fun.

[Husar]

Challenge: Privateerkev

so he gets more of a chance.

[Privateerkev]

My King has ordered me to water down the Holmgang so we can protect Motep. It looks like we will save the Swedish King in spite of himself...

Challenge: Fenring

Your role PM looks nothing like the other role PM's I've seen. Except for W&F, but after his passionate plea to us to keep the chaos God alive, I don't believe anything W&F says.

[woad&fangs]

challenge: Husar

Because I don't like the other Homgang challenges. Please claim a role Husar.

[Craterus]

What is the case against PK? He's posted a very legitimate looking role PM, he's part of a growing townie network who's efforts seem to be dedicated entirely to whittling down the number of suspects.

Sadly, you continue to insist on killing your own. Fine, have your fun today, but I'd ask that we all feel a little restraint in future with Holmganging because, as PK has rightly pointed out, the kills are increasing and we're running out of time.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the Holmgang will prove my suspicions correct and it will clearly show PK's true allegiance to whichever faction he belongs.

Don't have dinner tonight guys, you'll be eating your words...

[Privateerkev]

The case against me is that I am pushing the town to actually do "work."

And GH's case against me is solely based on the fact that he can't believe that I would have been initially skeptical of his role change.

Who would have thought. Skepticism... in a mafia game...

[Kralizec]

Kev, you're either completely misguided and incredibly stubborn or a Jotun. Since there's a good chance I'll be dead after the challenge I'll reveal my entire role PM:

HUMAN - Fenring

Fennir "the ringleader"

Greetings player. You have received the role of War Veteran and will be hunting the Jotun in this game. Every day you will participate in voting another player out of the game by the form described in the opening post in the game thread.
Every night starting in round 2, you will be able to challenge another player to a duel. If you win such a duel your Duel score will increase by 1 point.
Your King is Vladimir I and your faction is Rus.

Good luck.

Duel score: 4

[woad&fangs]

Okay, Vladimir I is like the 5th or so name of a lord to be revealed. All of them are from the same timeframe except one: Motep's Role.

[Privateerkev]

Kev, you're either completely misguided and incredibly stubborn or a Jotun. Since there's a good chance I'll be dead after the challenge I'll reveal my entire role PM:

Your faction name is in the wrong place. Your King name is in the wrong place. I have never seen Sigurd say "greetings player" or "good luck." I have never seen the word "duel" used in place of "Holmgang." The overall format is "off."

I believe your role PM is an utter and complete forgery. I gave you the chance to discuss it in private but you insisted on being stubborn. So, here we are.

[Craterus]

I can see problems with that role PM already:

1) Human is written in runes at the top of most other role PMs. Have you changed this?
2) Duels are called Holmgangs in other role PMs.

Can you explain either of these? Or woad&fangs who has claimed a similar role?

[GeneralHankerchief]

And GH, you don't need to play a lot of large mafia games to do some simple math and figure out that you have ramped up our "townie burn rate" for your own amusement. Therefore, "worst townie ever" is a label you have, IMHO, earned. But I'm glad you don't mind. I will be more glad though if you actually help us win. I am sorry you find being a simple townie so boring that you feel you need to actually decrease the town's chances of winning, just so you can have a bit of fun.

I and about 10 other people. What are they, runners-up?

[Motep]

I and about 10 other people. What are they, runners-up?

yes, I am disheartened at not winning the position. I worked hard!

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[El Diablo]

My appologies for being quiet on this mafia. I came in to check the game and had to read through 25 odd pages and then had to go before I responded.

I did not know there would be this much activity.

Cheers for hosting what looks like an amazing gamer Sigurd Fafnesbane. Loads of detail and a good story line to boot.

ED

[seireikhaan]

So, was Prole a missionary too? Perhaps there's a christian cult amongst us?

[Ferret]

Perhaps...