NSFW area?

[Che Roriniho]

The Tavern shouldn't have been there to begin with. It was a mistake to allow it in the first place, it was a mistake to reopen it, and it was a mistake to leave it going as long as we did.

Well, we're sorry for not conforming to your utopia of the EB forum being a second branch of the British Library: Full of history and wonderful things, but fundamentally dull and quiet.

[The Persian Cataphract]

Well, we're sorry for not conforming to your utopia of the EB forum being a second branch of the British Library: Full of history and wonderful things, but fundamentally dull and quiet.

So? This is still not a sandbox for your enjoyment. This is not Orkut.

Also, I resent your tasteless remark on Abou's character. This was a decision rather unanimously taken by the team, and even I who despise censorship more than any of your sorry asses, couldn't bear myself to defend the Tavern. In an especially notorious case, a board-invasion was incited. Guess what, we didn't ruin anything. You guys did that perfectly well on your own.

If Mike Hunt thinks our decision was "bullshit", tough luck for him. We are not obliged to cater, we do this in our spare time, and the fact that the hand of offering was voraciously devoured along with the arm to which the hand was attached, is greeted by insolent protests, just begs to ask just how audacious one can get.

[Bellum]

If you actually read my posts in this thread you would realize that have made many good points and yet no reply from the mods themselves. I ask them why just ban whoever is making the threats or swearing etc..instead of shutting down the thread entirely. And yet no answer.

You did make some interesting points, so why wasn't there a response?

Because from the very beginning you were rude. You said with your attitude that you were entitled to any of your demands, even if you didn't realize it.

Also, you should seriously take a look at yourself because it seems to me as if you revere the mods as some infallable people that everyone should look up to.

No, I look at them as human beings who happen to be the voice of authority on these forums.

we're fine with the one's we've got had.

Sure, but things change whether you want them to or not.

[Che Roriniho]

Sure, but things change whether you want them to or not.

Not friends.

I'm starting to agree with TA here. I do want a NSFW sub forum for EB though. I WANTSES!

As far as I can see, this thread is closed, but it's truly a bad day for EB. 2 of our best members have left, and has resulted in forae with noticably less soul.

Sh*t Happens though.

Valete

[a completely inoffensive name]

So? This is still not a sandbox for your enjoyment. This is not Orkut.

Also, I resent your tasteless remark on Abou's character. This was a decision rather unanimously taken by the team, and even I who despise censorship more than any of your sorry asses, couldn't bear myself to defend the Tavern. In an especially notorious case, a board-invasion was incited. Guess what, we didn't ruin anything. You guys did that perfectly well on your own.

If Mike Hunt thinks our decision was "bullshit", tough luck for him. We are not obliged to cater, we do this in our spare time, and the fact that the hand of offering was voraciously devoured along with the arm to which the hand was attached, is greeted by insolent protests, just begs to ask just how audacious one can get.

Yes, you are not obliged to cater to the whims of your fans, but you are obliged to exercise the power you have over these forums wisely. The decision to close the tavern was not a wise choice, the wiser choice which I have stated many times would be to ban/punish only those spouting off such offencive things.

My main problem with this is NOT that the tavern was shut down in the first place, but for your bull**** reasoning behind it.

[Tellos Athenaios]

My main problem with this is NOT that the tavern was shut down in the first place, but for your bull**** reasoning behind it.

Were this the case on other boards I visited; such reasoning would not just have led to the Tavern being closed down it would have led to many of the participants getting a shiny new point on their "infraction" counter. Count up to 3 or so and you get a temp ban.

Guess what; these forums are still pretty relaxed, open minded and free.

[Che Roriniho]

So? This is still not a sandbox for your enjoyment. This is not Orkut.

Also, I resent your tasteless remark on Abou's character. This was a decision rather unanimously taken by the team, and even I who despise censorship more than any of your sorry asses, couldn't bear myself to defend the Tavern. In an especially notorious case, a board-invasion was incited. Guess what, we didn't ruin anything. You guys did that perfectly well on your own.

If Mike Hunt thinks our decision was "bullshit", tough luck for him. We are not obliged to cater, we do this in our spare time, and the fact that the hand of offering was voraciously devoured along with the arm to which the hand was attached, is greeted by insolent protests, just begs to ask just how audacious one can get.

No, but see my above comment. The Tavern was where you could chat with the EB guys, but not about EB.

What WAS the tavern for then? An experiment in Social Engineering? See what happens when we close something we like?

That Bourd invasion 'incitement' was a joke. In bad taste, I admit, but a joke nonetheless. This isn't the Chans. Board invasions aren't opur style. We simply mutter to ourselves about 'Th downfall of society', or whatever. I say again, nothing serious!

Also, what remark on Abou's character?

[Tellos Athenaios]

No, but see my above comment. The Tavern was where you could chat with the EB guys, but not about EB.

What WAS the tavern for then? An experiment in Social Engineering? See what happens when we close something we like?

That Bourd invasion 'incitement' was a joke. In bad taste, I admit, but a joke nonetheless. This isn't the Chans. Board invasions aren't opur style. We simply mutter to ourselves about 'Th downfall of society', or whatever. I say again, nothing serious!

Also, what remark on Abou's character?

Something about Utopia, I guess; something which also could very well be reversed and with a little adaptations apply to you, I guess.

EDIT: Or wasn't it this one...

So abou's dream then? Sucking every ounce of soul from these forums, and then forgetting nothing happened. For remember, people who speak th truth and die, start revolutions.

[Che Roriniho]

@TA
That last quote was mostly the result of bad grammar. There should have been a new paragraph in there somewhere.

But, hell, I take full responsibility for everything I have posted.

Again,

Valete.

[Sarcasm]

This was a decision rather unanimously taken by the team, and even I who despise censorship more than any of your sorry asses, couldn't bear myself to defend the Tavern. In an especially notorious case, a board-invasion was incited. Guess what, we didn't ruin anything. You guys did that perfectly well on your own.

If Mike Hunt thinks our decision was "bullshit", tough luck for him. We are not obliged to cater, we do this in our spare time, and the fact that the hand of offering was voraciously devoured along with the arm to which the hand was attached, is greeted by insolent protests, just begs to ask just how audacious one can get.

I wouldn't say unanimously...I for one fought nail and tooth to get the tavern back on the first time it got closed, I certainly don't agree that it was a mistake to have a Tavern in the first place nor was it easy for me to not defend the tavern this time around. I did ultimately chose not to though.

Like TPC here, I absolutely despise censorship and was sort of shocked and revolted by the first closure despite having an extremely low opinion of the place and most of its patrons. This time around this was a long time in the making and it's entirely your own fault. In the lesbian thread I alluded to the danger of having off-tavern spam posts (at this time closing the tavern began to be seriously discussed) and I was still met with indifference and with several "In before lock" comments by several patrons of the tavern and regular members appearing after my warning.

To tell you the truth, like some situations in reality, you might not deserve the place nor the internal protection of certain key EB-members, and failed to see what a real privilege it was to have a place within the .org without strict rules of conduct. You ultimately failed to police yourselves - something the EB-team is unwilling to do for you.

Good luck.